Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Simple. Here's the list of people he told...

1. _______________________________

Oh well. President can declassify things.

Yawn.

 

[Faun]

Oh well. President can declassify things.

Yawn.

Not if he doesn't tell anyone. In that case, he's just thinking about declassifying them.

 

[BWK]

Not if he doesn't tell anyone. In that case, he's just thinking about declassifying them.

Are they still taling that same stupid shit?

 

[AsherN]

Are they still taling that same stupid shit?

There needs to be a paper trail so that all copies can be marked accordingly.

 

[bripat9643]

Read this slowly.

IT DOESN’T MATTER if they were classified or not.

As per the PRA and the various statues named in the warrant he did not have the right to HAVE them on his possession

Actually, yes he did. The PRA gives the president sole authority to decide which records are personal and which belong to the government.

 

[bripat9643]

How about Trump claiming that he had declassified those Top Secret Documents

Isn’t that an admission he had them?

It's an admission that he had nothing classified.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The PRA gives the president sole authority to decide which records are personal and which belong to the government.

Well that's another lie.

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, one of the acceptable protocols at the time was wiping the phones and then smashing them. So no, that doesn’t bother me. Clinton was careless with security, we held numerous hearings and deposed her. She testified under oath. Why aren’t you demanding Trump go through the same process?

That's only acceptable if the phones haven't been subpoenaed. Also, the FBI is supposed to do it, not Hillary's minions.

 

[bripat9643]

Well that's another lie.

Nope:

https://ussanews.com/2022/08/18/judges-ruling-over-audio-tapes-hidden-in-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact-trumps-effort-to-contest-fbi-raid/​

“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote.​

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“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” the judge wrote.​

 

[rightwinger]

It's an admission that he had nothing classified.

 

[Lesh]

Actually, yes he did. The PRA gives the president sole authority to decide which records are personal and which belong to the government.

It does nothing of the kind

 

[Lesh]

Nope:

https://ussanews.com/2022/08/18/judges-ruling-over-audio-tapes-hidden-in-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact-trumps-effort-to-contest-fbi-raid/​

“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote.​

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“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” the judge wrote.​

“During his term of office”

How’d ya miss that?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope:

https://ussanews.com/2022/08/18/judges-ruling-over-audio-tapes-hidden-in-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact-trumps-effort-to-contest-fbi-raid/​

“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote.​

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“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” the judge wrote.​

Oh, so you didn't mean what you said regarding any of the classified materials. Just "presidential records" (even though that isn't what you said).

Well so what? He still never undertook that process, as outlined by the same act you cherrypicked.

 

[Flopper]

Yes, EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. It's a REPUBLICAN and a DEMOCRAT who had secret documents in their personal possession. Who the **** would expect you to treat those the same????

Answer, anyone with integrity. As we know, that's not you

Clintons crimes were crimes of omission; that is she was not using an email server authorized for classified documents.
Trump crimes are crimes of commission. He took over 300 classified documents plus presidential records he had no right to, he violated law by damaging and destroying documents, he ignored a subpoena to return them, and obstructed the government efforts to get them back. On a scale seriousness of the crime, Clinton is 1 and Trump is 9.

 

[Catman51]

Where’s the proof he declassified them? Christ either way, that moron definitely should not have had that authority to begin with. He’s definitely too ******* stupid to make judgement calls like that.

Where is your proof that he did declassify them or have the right to do so?

You make claims without any knowledge or proof of your claims, proving you to be a democratic sheep.

 

[Catman51]

Oh, so you didn't mean what you said regarding any of the classified materials. Just "presidential records" (even though that isn't what you said).

Well so what? He still never undertook that process, as outlined by the same act you cherrypicked.

According to pre-existing laws of long standing, he has the right and the ability to declassify anything that he desires.
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It appears to be you who are doing the "cherry picking".

As usual.

 

[Lesh]

Where is your proof that he did declassify them

There is none

 

[Lesh]

According to pre-existing laws of long standing, he has the right and the ability to declassify anything that he desires.
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It appears to be you who are doing the "cherry picking".

As usual.

As President (and only while President) he had almost unlimited right to declassify.

There is no proof that I have heard that he did so

 

[Catman51]

There is none

So what are you complaining about. You admit that there is no proof, so just be quiet until there is or is not proof.

 

[Flopper]

the FACT is he didn't declassify, otherwise that would be stamped all over the documents; not to mention all national security agencies have to be notified & allowed input.

oh ya! there's this little FACT:

Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets​

Fan letters and snapshots are one matter, and launch codes are another—and here the details of classification might decide just how much trouble Trump is in.
By Graeme Wood
AUGUST 12, 2022

[...]

The Atomic Energy Acts of 1946 and 1954 produced an even stranger category of classified knowledge. Anything related to the production or use of nuclear weapons and nuclear power is inherently classified, and Trump could utter whatever words he pleased yet still be in possession of classified material. Where are our nuclear warheads? What tricks have we developed to make sure they work? This information is “born secret” no matter who produces it. The restrictions on documents of this type are incredibly tight...
Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets

The classification issue is going to be irrelevant if the DOJ charges him with violations of sections the espionage act because the espionage act does not mention classification but rather taking, retaining, mishandling, and revealing material of great importance to national security.