Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

Well lookie here.......it appears there is a lack of evidence and that the government has NO CASE AGAINST DONALD J. TRUMP.

And the FBI agent who ordered the search has been escorted off of FBI property and fired. He was also the agent that suppressed the story about Hunter Biden's laptop:




"We now know why the DOJ wanted the affidavit — which is supposed to articulate the probable cause needed for a legitimate search — to be kept under seal. After the magistrate who authorized the search forced the DOJ to unseal a redacted version, two realities came into better focus.
First, the affidavit confirmed that the FBI’s investigation was triggered in January 2022 at the request of the National Archives, which wanted certain documents, especially classified documents, that it considered to be presidential records to be turned over to it by Trump. Second, from what I have seen, I don’t believe the affidavit articulates how a federal law was or is being broken. For those who hold out hope that the affidavit’s redacted sections fill that gap, there is almost no chance that they do. (More on that below.)​
As to the first point, this matter is, as suspected, nothing more than a document dispute that was chugging along, appropriately, as a negotiation behind the scenes and apparently making some progress. I don’t see anything in the affidavit asserting a refusal by Trump to cooperate.​
Any clinging hope — in certain quarters — that the affidavit possessed ā€œpulverizingā€ cause to believe Trump was engaged in a truly serious federal violation can — I think — be considered dashed. The pipe dream that Trump was engaged in espionage, actively providing secrets to an enemy I think is as fanciful as the Steele dossier’s Moscow hotel bed reverie. And, no, I don’t believe a smoking gun of espionage or something equally shocking will be in the redacted sections. If the FBI had that, it would have fronted that in the unredacted portions.​
As to the second and more important point, the affidavit’s probable cause statements focus on only half of what is needed to show a possible violation of the federal statutes that are cited in the warrant. The affidavit does a reasonable job of establishing cause to believe Trump possessed a range of classified materials — or at least once-classified materials — and that those materials were located in his residence.​
But that’s not all that’s needed — in this case in particular. A criminal violation of those statutes only exists if it can be established that the person being investigated was not authorized to possess, store, transfer or copy those documents. This is an easy element to establish against anyone in America. Except one person.​
The unredacted parts of the affidavit make no attempt to articulate cause that Trump was not authorized to have these documents in his home. The reason is that, as president, he had broad, legally intimidating authority, established by law and court determinations, to declassify any and all documents and to determine what is and is not a presidential record. Trump and his legal team have asserted that this authority was exercised while he was still president. Therefore, a violation of these fairly low-level and seldom-prosecuted document-oriented statutes cannot be proven.​
I don’t think there’s much chance that the affidavit’s redacted portions contain some novel legal theory undercutting this broad, well-established presidential authority. Affidavits for intrusive searches of a private home — the most extreme action the government can take against a resident of the United States, short of arrest — are not the place for advancing theories. Probable cause must be built on facts."​

First, an FBI agent did not order the search, nor was any FBI agent fired in connection with the search of Mar A Lago. It was ordered by the DOJ and approved by the judge signing the warrant after reviewing the complete document including the unredacted affidavit for cause. If there had not been cause for the search, the judge would not have ordered it. Lastly, claiming a highly redacted affidavit for cause for a search indicates that there is no case is a bit ridiculous. You seem to forget that in addition to evidence gathered in the search as well as in the unredacted affidavit of cause, there is the evidence from the ongoing investigation which the DOJ will certainly not make available to the public or the defense until until after a grand jury indictment.
 
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Now the FBI admits that maybe some of the documents taken were protected by attorney client privilege. Oops.
No, the FBI identified documents taken that could be attorney client communications. This would be communications between Trump and his lawyers that qualified for attorney client privilege. Facts are not protected just communications. For example, a discussion of a possible defense against retention of classified documents would be protected but not the retention of classified documents.
 
That’s not the issue.
The issue is that Liberals think they know the law.

True, but in this case the issue is hypocrisy. Democrats don't care about Democrats having classified documents and didn't when it was Hillary. When it's Trump, impeach him!
 
Sure it is.

So the FBI is publishing pics of classified info on the web? That seems to me like it would be illegal.
The covers displayed of these classified documents are not classified, only the information within those documents are classified.
 
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LOL, yet when Hillary had all those on her personal phone, you cared not at all. And Hillary did not have Trump's power to declassify them. But you know all this, you don't care because you're a racist and a hypocrite
Which is totally irreverent to this discussion and to Trump's illegal activity.
 
Which is totally irreverent to this discussion and to Trump's illegal activity.

Right, you agree that this isn't a standard for you since you don't apply it to your own team. You say it's like an insight, but Shirley, it's what I said. Shit.

kaz: Democrats are hypocrites, you don't apply the standards you apply to Trump to Hillary

Flopper: No, kaz, I don't apply the standards I apply to Trump to Hillary

Got it, boob, again, what I said ...
 
Right, you agree that this isn't a standard for you since you don't apply it to your own team. You say it's like an insight, but Shirley, it's what I said. Shit.

kaz: Democrats are hypocrites, you don't apply the standards you apply to Trump to Hillary

Flopper: No, kaz, I don't apply the standards I apply to Trump to Hillary

Got it, boob, again, what I said ...
It is an apples and orange comparison. At most, Clinton would have been guilty of misdemeanors in the handling of classified material; that is she forwarded emails containing classified information, none which she originated. About the only thing you could convict Clinton of was bad judgement.

That is certainly not the case with Trump:
The DOJ has recovered over 300 classified documents including some of the most secret of top secret information from Mar A Lago.
Trump tried to declassify all these documents simple because they were at Mar A Lago and would open him up to legal charges of violations of the classified documents act.
He said all classified documents were returned, it was a lie. classified documents were move to avoid seizure. That is obstruction.
He retained presidential records that were not his to keep, destroying and damaging some of them.
He failed to return all documents when subpoenaed.
And this is just the beginning of the investigation and they have enough now to indict him on violations of the espionage act, obstruction of justice, and damaging and destroying government documents.
 
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It is an apples and orange comparison. At most, Clinton would have been guilty of misdemeanors in the handling of classified material; that is she forwarded emails containing classified information, none which she originated. About the only thing you could convict Clinton of was bad judgement.

That is certainly not the case with Trump:
The DOJ has recovered over 300 classified documents including some of the most secret of top secret information from Mar A Lago.
Trump tried to declassify all these documents simple because they were at Mar A Lago and would open him up to legal charges of violations of the classified documents act.
He said all classified documents were returned, it was a lie. classified documents were move to avoid seizure. That is obstruction.
He retained presidential records that were not his to keep, destroying and damaging some of them.
He failed to return all documents when subpoenaed.
And this is just the beginning of the investigation and they have enough now to indict him on violations of the espionage act, obstruction of justice, and damaging and destroying government documents.
LOL you got him this time for sure. Never mind everything you said is wrong.
 
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The fact is he could and did declassify the documents
Classified or not, they are not his to take.

And where is the proof he declassified them? He removed a bunch of documents and says he declassified them. Without a paper trail, anybody wishing to access a copy of those documents would still have to respect the original classification. Yes, the President can declassify at will and yes, he can declassify spur of the moment. But at some point, the agencies responsible for those documents need to be advised they were declassified.
 
It is an apples and orange comparison

Yes, EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. It's a REPUBLICAN and a DEMOCRAT who had secret documents in their personal possession. Who the **** would expect you to treat those the same????

Answer, anyone with integrity. As we know, that's not you
 
The fact is he could and did declassify the documents

the FACT is he didn't declassify, otherwise that would be stamped all over the documents; not to mention all national security agencies have to be notified & allowed input.

oh ya! there's this little FACT:

Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets

Fan letters and snapshots are one matter, and launch codes are another—and here the details of classification might decide just how much trouble Trump is in.
By Graeme Wood
AUGUST 12, 2022

[...]

The Atomic Energy Acts of 1946 and 1954 produced an even stranger category of classified knowledge. Anything related to the production or use of nuclear weapons and nuclear power is inherently classified, and Trump could utter whatever words he pleased yet still be in possession of classified material. Where are our nuclear warheads? What tricks have we developed to make sure they work? This information is ā€œborn secretā€ no matter who produces it. The restrictions on documents of this type are incredibly tight...
Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets
 
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