Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

I had one of the Trumpsters tell me "they belong to him".

Sure you did.

Or it was on the talking points from KOS.


There's just no way to respond to that.

What did your script tell you to post?

C'mon Nazi mac, your Reich puts a lot of work into deciding what you think, don't slack off..
 
But this warrant was illegal because it didn't specify what they were looking for.
What said instead that anything document of any kind that Trump may have had contact with was to be confiscated.
So if he had them his copies of DC Comics were grabbed along with all of his Marvel Comics.
Playboys, Babes With Big Buns.....anything.

The people defending this Nazi style raid are all saying that "It's hard to believe that they would take these steps unless they believed they were investigating something serious!"

Well....I think it's time to start using an open mind and think about the worse case scenario. That our government is out of control as long as Democrats/Communists are in charge.


The warrant specifies very clearly what they were looking for under the section property to be seized. The list can be very specific, general, or both as long as it satisfies the judge that the items are within bounds of cause for the search.

 
I think the ruling as interpreted by all previous administration has been the president has total access and control of classified documents.

However, an order by the president to declassify all documents at Mar A Lago would be impossible to execute without knowing either which documents or information to declassify. Thus they would not be declassified. Furthermore, he would have to communicate the order to something that can make it happen. However, security classification will be irrelevant since the security violation on search warrant is espionage, not violation of classification act.

Nope,

The Commander in Chief may classify or declassify any document, at any time, in any manner.

Hence nothing at Mar-a-Lago was classified.

Hatred of Donald Trump does not change reality or the law. I am aware of the contempt democrats have for the law, but at the presidential level the discarding of law by Garland and his goons creates a Constitutional Crisis.

SCOTUS will be involved, and there is precedent, meaning they will rule for Trump.

But that's what the fascist democrats want - another chance to attack the court.
 
I think the ruling as interpreted by all previous administration has been the president has total access and control of classified documents.

However, an order by the president to declassify all documents at Mar A Lago would be impossible to execute without knowing either which documents or information to declassify. Thus they would not be declassified. Furthermore, he would have to communicate the order to something that can make it happen. However, security classification will be irrelevant since the security violation on search warrant is espionage, not violation of classification act.
The warrant specifies very clearly what they were looking for under the section property to be seized. The list can be very specific, general, or both as long as it satisfies the judge that the items are within bounds of cause for the search.

Face it, folks like mudwhistle aren't intelligent enough to understand what you are telling them. And they have no interest, because they have an agenda.
 
The warrant specifies very clearly what they were looking for under the section property to be seized. The list can be very specific, general, or both as long as it satisfies the judge that the items are within bounds of cause for the search.


Utterly false.

I posted the warrant this morning, you ducked it.

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In fact NOTHING is specified, it's purely a fishing expedition. Garland put "anything and everything" as his criterion.

This was nothing more or less than a political hatchet job by the goons in the FBI to again corrupt our elections.

Joe Biden's creeps assaulting his opponent for president in 2024.
 
Nope,

The Commander in Chief may classify or declassify any document, at any time, in any manner.

Hence nothing at Mar-a-Lago was classified.

Hatred of Donald Trump does not change reality or the law. I am aware of the contempt democrats have for the law, but at the presidential level the discarding of law by Garland and his goons creates a Constitutional Crisis.

SCOTUS will be involved, and there is precedent, meaning they will rule for Trump.

But that's what the fascist democrats want - another chance to attack the court.
The Commander in Chief may classify or declassify any document, at any time, in any manner.
Can a president secretly declassify information without leaving a written record or telling anyone?

That question, according to specialists in the law of government secrecy, is borderline incoherent.

If there is no directive memorializing a decision to declassify information and conveying it to the rest of the government, the action would essentially have no consequence, as departments and agencies would continue to consider that information classified and so would continue to restrict access to documents containing it.


“Hypothetical questions like ‘What if a president thinks to himself that something is declassified? Does that change its status?’ are so speculative that their practical meaning is negligible,” said Steven Aftergood, a secrecy specialist with the Federation of American Scientists.
 

Trump claims about unfair treatment by the FBI and the DOJ, democrat conspiracies' and hoaxes are just political rhetoric for supporters. In court it means nothing. Trump is going have to come up with something a lot better than declassifying everything, claims of unfair treatment, and Clinton did it. That just doesn't work in court. Evidence is what matters and the DOJ seems have a lot of it and there still investigating.
 
The Commander in Chief may classify or declassify any document, at any time, in any manner.
Can a president secretly declassify information without leaving a written record or telling anyone?

Yes, Obama did exactly that when he gave classified intelligence to Vladimir Putin in 2012.

Egan was used as precedence in ruling that Obama did nothing wrong as CiC.


That question, according to specialists in the law of government secrecy, is borderline incoherent.

If there is no directive memorializing a decision to declassify information and conveying it to the rest of the government, the action would essentially have no consequence, as departments and agencies would continue to consider that information classified and so would continue to restrict access to documents containing it.


“Hypothetical questions like ‘What if a president thinks to himself that something is declassified? Does that change its status?’ are so speculative that their practical meaning is negligible,” said Steven Aftergood, a secrecy specialist with the Federation of American Scientists.

That all amounts to shit.

SCOTUS ruled in 1988.

What you or Flopper, or any other fascist whackjob says is utterly irrelevant.

But indicting Trump isn't the objective of your Reich. They are gunning for the Supreme Court.

You'll be reprogrammed soon enough.
 
No one takes one letter from the Tea party seriously. Get that in your head. They want to destroy our government and our country. Anyone with a functioning brain knows that by now.
wrong the subpoena was on march 5 I believe and the server was wiped on the 25th. Retard.
 
Nope,

The Commander in Chief may classify or declassify any document, at any time, in any manner.

Hence nothing at Mar-a-Lago was classified.

Hatred of Donald Trump does not change reality or the law. I am aware of the contempt democrats have for the law, but at the presidential level the discarding of law by Garland and his goons creates a Constitutional Crisis.

SCOTUS will be involved, and there is precedent, meaning they will rule for Trump.

But that's what the fascist democrats want - another chance to attack the court.
You keep on and and on with this dog chasing the tail nonsense. It makes you look so abundantly stupid. Without memorializing something, how do you know if it exists or it doesn't? Future governments can't operate like that. If what you were trying to pedal were a thing, an Archive would essentially be useless, and we might as well give all our secrets to North Korea.

This is an exercise in gross stupidity. Damn son, aren't you embarrassed?
 
You keep on and and on with this dog chasing the tail nonsense. It makes you look so abundantly stupid. Without memorializing something, how do you know if it exists or it doesn't? Future governments can't operate like that. If what you were trying to pedal were a thing, an Archive would essentially be useless, and we might as well give all our secrets to North Korea.

This is an exercise in gross stupidity. Damn son, aren't you embarrassed?

You mean facts?
I plan to.

And you will keep lying for your Reich.
 
Yes, Obama did exactly that when he gave classified intelligence to Vladimir Putin in 2012.

Egan was used as precedence in ruling that Obama did nothing wrong as CiC.




That all amounts to shit.

SCOTUS ruled in 1988.

What you or Flopper, or any other fascist whackjob says is utterly irrelevant.

But indicting Trump isn't the objective of your Reich. They are gunning for the Supreme Court.

You'll be reprogrammed soon enough.
By running from the battlefield with "what about isms", you just showed us your hand. You aren't arguing the substance of my post. You are citing some unrelated controversy that ha nothing to do with declassification. LOL! You just aren't smart enough or informed enough for this game chief.
 
You mean facts?
I plan to.

And you will keep lying for your Reich.
Please, tell us more about your nonsensical argument about declassification anytime, while no one knows but the president or ex-president? :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:

Tell us more about how everyone else in government after Trump is gone, is supposed to magically know what he de-classified and didn't? :laughing0301::laughing0301::laughing0301:
 
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Utterly false.

I posted the warrant this morning, you ducked it.

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In fact NOTHING is specified, it's purely a fishing expedition. Garland put "anything and everything" as his criterion.

This was nothing more or less than a political hatchet job by the goons in the FBI to again corrupt our elections.

Joe Biden's creeps assaulting his opponent for president in 2024.

since they recovered 184 classified documents, it was far from a fishing expedition.
They waited far to long to get them back into safe storage.
 
The Commander in Chief may classify or declassify any document, at any time, in any manner.
Can a president secretly declassify information without leaving a written record or telling anyone?

If there is no directive memorializing a decision to declassify information and conveying it to the rest of the government, the action would essentially have no consequence, as departments and agencies would continue to consider that information classified and so would continue to restrict access to documents containing it.


Here's a not quite hypothetical question.

Can an aid to the president show him a sealed envelope with a classified document in it, and ask the president, "can you declassify this". And without opening it, the president declassifies it, putting his initials on the envelope, writing "declassified"

Can the president be tricked into declassifying documents when he doesn't even know what is being declassified?
 
Tell us more about how everyone else in government after Trump is gone, is supposed to magically know what he de-classified and didn't? :laughing0301::laughing0301::laughing0301:

What really throws a monkey wrench into it, is Trump doesn't even know what he declassified and what he didn't

Imagine if one of Trumps aides, like the "gate keeper" the job Rob Portman had. Where documents come to him, before being delivered to the presidents desk. If he brought Trump classified documents directly to the resident, without ever going through the oval office.

Suddenly Trump has documents that were never declassified.
 
By running from the battlefield with "what about isms", you just showed us your hand. You aren't arguing the substance of my post. You are citing some unrelated controversy that ha nothing to do with declassification. LOL! You just aren't smart enough or informed enough for this game chief.
:lol:

Simple fact, Donald Trump as CiC had the authority to declassify everything he possessed.

The purely political assault on the opponent of Joe Biden in the 2024 presidential race by the FBI is utterly transparent.
 

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