Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[Rigby5]

They can't explain or escape the "why did Trump take the shit home with him?"

The reasons are obvious.
He did not have time to finish sorting at the White House, so had to finish at Mar-a-Lago.
There are 3 categories.
One would be personal, to keep as mementos, use for memoirs, etc.
Two would be what would be sent to NARA.
Three would be to destroy, as obsolete, irrelevant, too secret for NARA, etc.

 

[Faun]

No, Hillary wiped the server before allowing it to be inspected, and it never left her home.
The point with the cellphones is they were smashed before anything could be retrieved from them, that would have shown evidence of illegal activity. That was in violation of the search warrant.
She was supposed to use a State Department provided cellphone, for better security and for the FOIA.

And then she turned the server over to the government. Perhaps had she not done that, the rightarded deflection of why didn't they raid Hillary's home, might have made some sense. But alas...

 

[Rigby5]

Republicans drilled her for eight hours and what did they find?

She basically repeatedly said "Oops", and stuck to that.
So there was no means by which to prove criminal intent.
That does not at all prove she was innocent.

 

[Rigby5]

And then she turned the server over to the government. Perhaps had she not done that, the rightarded deflection of why didn't they raid Hillary's home, might have made some sense. But alas...

But the point is they should have raided her home, so they would have had the server before it was wiped.

 

[Nostra]

Trump quotes; "He declassified documents, they were planted, and he said they were mine." These are Trump claims. How are you going to square all three?

Why no link?

 

[Nostra]

Stupidity and lying is a terrible combo.

How’s that working out for ya, Simp?

 

[AntonToo]

The 12 juiciest bits from the FBI's Clinton report

From smashing phones to Colin Powell's warning to 'be very careful,' here are the most revealing portions of the FBI's investigation notes.

www.politico.com

Good job, now I hope you do read that and actually understand that what you've posted previously was a bunch of bs.

There is nothing in your link about Clinton refusing to hand something over to either Archives or FBI.

 

[Flopper]

The FBI stole? So, you are saying these documents belong to Trump? 18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material What's your evidence of that?

What is your evidence the documents were being damaged by the FBI?

The 15 boxes of "evidence" was turned over to records back in Jan of 2022. If these records were turned over back in Jan, 2022, then how is it that the FBI stole them if they were returned? You aren't making any sense? You are contradicting yourself here right? What is wrong with you?

Trump dug himself into a corner. He said that documents he took from the oval office were automatically declassified. But the question of classified documents that Trump unintentionally removed from the oval office also being declassified along with those he intended to declassify.

Trump had no accounting of what were in the many boxes, meaning Trump had no accounting of what he intended to declassify. His claim of automatic declassification fails badly if Trump never told anybody what specific documents he declassified.

Good Point. The purpose of classification is too communicate what information requires limited access. Information can not be declassified without specifically identifying what is be declassified. Since presidents are not required to sign out classified documents, saying all classified documents at Mar A Lago are declassified is meaningless. Clearly, Trump was attempting to cover his ass, not to actually declassify any information.

 

[playtime]

The problem with all of that is the simple fact that Trump had authorization to remove those docs.....because he had an authorized facility at Mara-lago called a SCIF to keep all of that stuff in.

ummmm..... lenny? nice try, but you left out one very important little factoid:


The inventory of material taken out of Mar-a-Lago leaves in no doubt the importance of the documents discovered there. They included top secret and “sensitive compartmented information” (SCI) meaning there were restrictions on its circulation over and above its top secret status. It should normally only be in a special facility, a SCIF. A SCIF was established at Mar-a-Lago, but it operated as a secure facility only during the Trump presidency.
Nuclear or not, classified or not, Mar-a-Lago files spell out jeopardy for Trump

 

[playtime]

'cept - the **** there does.

Already ruled on by the SCOTUS

Already tested when butt-boi Barry gave classified intel to Putin to help him invade Ukraine.



What you Nazi pigs are doing is attacking the court.

You'll be reprogrammed to claim the court is illegitimate and needs to be "expanded" after this gets tossed -it's why your filthy Reich is doing it to begin with.

 

[Flopper]

He's a total idiot. He went from "they're declassified", to "they were planted", to "they are mine." Lol!

And here's so more stupid shit on top of what Trump had to offer as a defense. Lindsey "the puppet" Graham is saying there will be violence if Trump is prosecuted. Really? What a *****. Instead of dropping the temperature, he goes on the Sunday shows to stoke violence. What a hero right. Violence for what? To protect a criminal who sold his country down the river? WTF is wrong with these people? They are announcing to the country that they are ready for violence. Get ready folks. These people have totally lost their shit over a twice disgraced, impeached pos president, who sold his country out, and they are willing to do the same.

It seems every Trump transgression becomes more serious. It's like he's playing catch me if you can. This time he may have gone just one step too far for his lawyers to save him.

 

[Rigby5]

Good job, now I hope you do read that and actually understand that what you've posted previously was a bunch of bs.

There is nothing in your link about Clinton refusing to hand something over to either Archives or FBI.

She did "hand them over", but wiped or smashed them first.
That is in violation of the order.

 

[AntonToo]

She did "hand them over", but wiped or smashed them first.
That is in violation of the order.

Well looks like we have another nutter that hasn't actually read the link.

READ IT. Reconcile it with your claims, then post.

Crazy idea, I know.

 

[playtime]

It seems every Trump transgression becomes more serious. It's like he's playing catch me if you can. This time he may have gone just one step too far for his lawyers to save him.

that happened when you got a sociopathic man baby who was never told 'no'.

 

[Flopper]

The problem with all of that is the simple fact that Trump had authorization to remove those docs.....because he had an authorized facility at Mara-lago called a SCIF to keep all of that stuff in.
A SCIF that was built by the US government to keep classified material in....and was maintained by the Secret Service and government officials.
But let's not overlook the fact that every document that was taken to Mara-lago was collected, packed, and sealed by GSA and Trump most likely never saw any of it himself.

This is what pisses me the **** off about you God Damned Democrat fuckwads.

All your handlers have to do is perpetrate a hoax...feed you a load of bullshit through the media....and that fake news encourages you silly mudflaps to work your ******* gums for several weeks till we discover it was all a load of horse manure.

Then a few months later they issue a retraction saying it was all BS that you faggots never will admit to.

No, Although a SCIF was established at Mar-a-Lago, it operated as a secure facility only during the Trump presidency. Also Investigators discovered classified documents, not in an SCIF but in two areas: Trump’s personal office above a ballroom and in a storage room near the pool.

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents in Mar-a-Lago search: sources

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents during their search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago on Monday, including some with Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI) clearance.

thehill.com

 

[Rigby5]

Good Point. The purpose of classification is too communicate what information requires limited access. Information can not be declassified without specifically identifying what is be declassified. Since presidents are not required to sign out classified documents, saying all classified documents at Mar A Lago are declassified is meaningless. Clearly, Trump was attempting to cover his ass, not to actually declassify any information.

You said, " Information can not be declassified without specifically identifying what is be declassified."
And that is obviously wrong.

First of all, identifying what is to be classified or declassified would require creating an additional classified document.
You never want to do that. You are not supposed to say why a document is supposed to be classified or not.
That would be like creating a guide for spies as to what they should steal and what to ignore.

What is done instead is to blanket classify the entire document. It is marked on each page, even if that page is benign.

Saying all documents at Mar-a-Lago are declassified is not meaningless, because as president when the docs were made, Trump has full access to them and can copy, keep, or destroy them at will.
He can also employ trusted employees to help, at will.
The problem is not about classified docs.
The ONLY problem is if he is trying to sanitize and prevent harmful docs from getting into NARA.

 

[Rigby5]

They included top secret and “sensitive compartmented information” (SCI) meaning there were restrictions on its circulation over and above its top secret status.

Wrong.
"Sensitive compartmented information" is below Top Secret, and Top Secret is the highest classification.
Very few people can get Top Secret classification, and it is not universal, but on a limited need to know basis.
Sensitive compartmented information is the lowest.
It just means there is some restrictions and not for universal distribution, like IRS or HIPAA.

 

[AntonToo]

Saying all documents at Mar-a-Lago are declassified is not meaningless,

Of course it's meaningless.

Warrant does not somehow disapear retroactively if after raid Trump suddenly claims that he declassified everything in his head.

 

[Rigby5]

It seems every Trump transgression becomes more serious. It's like he's playing catch me if you can. This time he may have gone just one step too far for his lawyers to save him.

Most restrictions, laws, etc., are for worst case scenarios, and are not supposed to be enforced blindly, to the letter.
For example, Hillary deliberately violated the State Department email and cellphone rules.
But it turns out, most people did.
So the letter of the law and restrictions are usually not applicable.

 

[Rigby5]

No, Although a SCIF was established at Mar-a-Lago, it operated as a secure facility only during the Trump presidency. Also Investigators discovered classified documents, not in an SCIF but in two areas: Trump’s personal office above a ballroom and in a storage room near the pool.

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents in Mar-a-Lago search: sources

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents during their search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago on Monday, including some with Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI) clearance.

thehill.com

Doesn't matter.
It means the docs being there was legal.
It was wrong for the FBI to remove them.
It is the FBI who did not have sufficient clearance that Trump has.