Unpopular Opinion: Conservative Businesses Should Fire Woke Employees

[Unkotare]

.... America doesn't need you because you have already proven you are scum.

Proving you are exactly the same as the democrats.

 

[Correll]

So Joe should have every supervisor in all of the Fedeal Departments ask every employee about their politics and fire any who are not liberal?

Yeah, that's probably a dumb an idea as I've ever heard except for the one listed in the OP.

You started this war. DId you think that we would never fight back?

Nobody is in danger of you firing them pee wee

Aw, how cute. The liberal pretended to be retarded so that he could make a personal attack.


Here the deal, candy. Yes, my career currently is not doing that well. AND, you are a fucking retard.


I would rather has a stalled career, than be a retard like you.


My career could improve. You will always be retarded.

 

[Papageorgio]

I wouldn’t fire a person for being a progressive. I refuse to become like them as narrow minded and intolerant as they.

 

[Orangecat]

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
Pun intended.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Whether it’s popular or not is irrelevant.

The fact is that such a notion is wrong, reprehensible, and illegal.

Sorry, it is not. I would fire a troublemaking leftist freak in a heartbeat.

 

[Crepitus]

The vast majority of Conservatives believe that no one should lose their job for their political beliefs

That's completely untrue.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

This opinion is unpopular with both Liberals and Conservatives. Most Liberals believe that they do not hold any views for which they deserve to be punished. The vast majority of Conservatives believe that no one should lose their job for their political beliefs. I am neither Liberal nor Conservative.

In a perfectly just Society, very few people would lose their job for their political beliefs. Only the most extreme views would merit such penalty. Even though USA in the past was far from being perfect, firing people for their political opinions was relatively rare. To the best of my knowledge it was rare even in the first years of this Century.


Unfortunately, in recent years tens of thousands of people have been fired and/or blacklisted for even mildly offending Progressives. In my opinion, Conservative business owners should respond in kind. There are thousands of counties and small towns in which Conservatives are over 70% majority, and hundreds of counties in which they are 80% majority. Amazingly, in a few counties over 90% of people are Conservative. If Liberal supporters of Cancel Culture who live in these towns or counties lose their jobs, they would have a hard time finding other jobs in the same community. That would force them either to reconsider their views and make amends or to relocate to more Liberal urban areas.


Almost all Liberal supporters of Cancel Culture believe that private businesses have a right to fire any employee for their political opinions. They accuse opponents of Cancel Culture of opposing the First Amendment. Thus they would not object to being fired themselves.


Firing Cancel Culture proponents may have other benefits as well. They are likely to try to dictate to their employees how to run their business. For instance, some Amazon employees have been making a scene when Amazon carried books they do not like. The same is true for many bookstores and music stores. Some publishers have been pressured by their employees not to publish books they find offensive.


Cancel Culture proponents are likely to be walking lawsuits. Their Conservative and Independent coworkers have to walk on eggshells in their presence. This hardly benefits the working environment. A working team where all members share most ideas may be more friendly and more productive.


Another benefit of firing Cancel Culture proponents may be in liberation of work places for Conservatives and Independents who have been fired for their beliefs. Conservative business owners should be helping those hurt by Cancel Culture rather then those who support it. Hiring someone fired for his/her opinions may have additional benefits for a business. A cancelled employee is likely to understand that it would be difficult for them to find work elsewhere. Thus they are likely to work diligently rather then to risk losing their job.

I never understood people who air their religion or politics or personal life at work. How stupid can you get?

Well, we agree on this. Stick to work, while at work

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The vast majority of Conservatives believe that no one should lose their job for their political beliefs

That's completely untrue.

It would have been true for me, a couple years ago, but since the left does this, they only deserve the same

 

[Crepitus]

The vast majority of Conservatives believe that no one should lose their job for their political beliefs

That's completely untrue.

It would have been true for me, a couple years ago, but since the left does this, they only deserve the same

So what you're saying is I'm right.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Jews are NOT a minority. It is a religious faith.

Actually, while Judaism is a Faith, Jewish people are also an ethnicity since they share similar genotypes.

It was very rare for Jewish people to marry anybody but fellow Jews for many generations, and what established Jewishness was a matter more of blood than belief.

Yet, Sammy Davis was Jewish.

 

[IM2]

This is from Flash. A member of this forum.

“I can say for sure that happens because I did it. Before retirement, I was an Engineer. For the last 20 years of my career, I was a Manager and Director and I hired hundreds of people. I reviewed well over a thousand resumes for all kinds of positions. Everything from Secretaries to Engineering Managers. Both Salary and Hourly. I always culled out the resumes with Black Ethnic names. Never shortlisted anybody with a Black Ethnic name. Never hired them.”

“Since the Fortune 50 company I worked for had a stupid "affirmative action" hiring policies I never mentioned it to anybody and I always got away with it. A couple of times I was instructed to improve my departmental “diversity" demographics but I always ignored it and never got into any trouble. My stereotype is that anybody with a stupid ghetto Black ethnic name is probably worthless. I could have been wrong a couple of times but I was also probably right 99% of the time.

Glad I did it. I would do it again.”​

A man or woman hired from equality and made sure they are not screwed over is one thing. A man or woman hired from equity is another. Equity rules in many jobs for years and decades. It is going to be made into real law soon enough. As we decline as a nation.

Shut the hell up. I'm tire of you racists and your amnesia.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
Pun intended.

Agree 100%.

 

[Man of Ethics]

I wouldn’t fire a person for being a progressive. I refuse to become like them as narrow minded and intolerant as they.

Sadly this attitude by most Conservatives allows Cancel Culture to win.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Definitely, as I have said, it is likely that only employers in mostly Conservative counties would be able to fire Progressives. Such a step would likely give them more business and popular support.

And apparently.....Con-servative political leanings include denigrating people based on their religion, nationality, sexuality, etc.

Generally I do not respond to mockery.

 

[Flash]

.... America doesn't need you because you have already proven you are scum.

Proving you are exactly the same as the democrats.

Democrats are pretty much the scum of America. I think we all know that.

Hiring one of them would be a dumb business decision.

Just think how somebody that was so dumb and confused in the head to have voted for China Joe would screw up your business.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

How? Political affiliation is not a protected class.

Most Progressives agree that any private business should be free to fire any employee for the employees political affiliation.

In my opinion, the very idea that there should be any such thing as “protected classes” is wrong, and unconstitutional. With regard to the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, such “protected classes” make those who fall under them “more equal than others”.

But is we are to have “protected classes”, then why should political opinion not be one. Religion is a “protected class”, in part at least, because the First Amendment explicitly identifies it as a right. The First Amendment also identifies freedoms of speech and the press, equally, as rights; and I think it is universally understood that a major purpose of these rights, if not the major purpose, is to allow the expression of political opinions.


I'm rather torn on whether employers ought to be allowed to discriminate on the basis of criteria that do not directly relate to an employee's suitability for a position. I take the First Amendment to very strongly imply a freedom of association, based on the explicit freedoms of expression, religion, and assembly; and on that basis, a right to choose, in any context, not associate with any individual, for any reason, in any context.

But I also recognize the folly and the harm in random discrimination. In an employment situation, it seems wring to me for any employer to discriminate against any employee on the basis of any criterion that does not relate directly to that employee's ability to do his job and to uphold the interests of his employer.

 

[candycorn]

So Joe should have every supervisor in all of the Fedeal Departments ask every employee about their politics and fire any who are not liberal?

Yeah, that's probably a dumb an idea as I've ever heard except for the one listed in the OP.

You started this war. DId you think that we would never fight back?

Nobody is in danger of you firing them pee wee

Aw, how cute. The liberal pretended to be retarded so that he could make a personal attack.


Here the deal, candy. Yes, my career currently is not doing that well. AND, you are a fucking retard.


I would rather has a stalled career, than be a retard like you.


My career could improve. You will always be retarded.

Perhaps the reason for your career stagnation is your inability to use "has" verses "have". Just throwing that out there pee wee.

 

[JoeB131]

How? Political affiliation is not a protected class.

Most Progressives agree that any private business should be free to fire any employee for the employees political affiliation.

Actually, you are a bit confused, but that's normal.

The people who advocate firing anyone for any reason are the Conservatives, who support union busting, right to work, at will employment where anyone can be fired at any time. Progressives actually want protections for people in the workplace.

That said, you guys had no problem with "Cancel Culture" when it was Colin Kaepernick, the Dixie Chicks, Jane Fonda, Sinead O'Connor or other people who offended you in various ways.

 

[Blues Man]

How? Political affiliation is not a protected class.

Most Progressives agree that any private business should be free to fire any employee for the employees political affiliation.

Actually, you are a bit confused, but that's normal.

The people who advocate firing anyone for any reason are the Conservatives, who support union busting, right to work, at will employment where anyone can be fired at any time. Progressives actually want protections for people in the workplace.

That said, you guys had no problem with "Cancel Culture" when it was Colin Kaepernick, the Dixie Chicks, Jane Fonda, Sinead O'Connor or other people who offended you in various ways.

An employer should be able to terminate anyone's employment. If any employee is let go without cause he can collect unemployment which the employer pays for with FUTA and SUTA taxes as well as other fees.

 

[JoeB131]

In my opinion, the very idea that there should be any such thing as “protected classes” is wrong, and unconstitutional. With regard to the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, such “protected classes” make those who fall under them “more equal than others”.

But is we are to have “protected classes”, then why should political opinion not be one. Religion is a “protected class”, in part at least, because the First Amendment explicitly identifies it as a right. The First Amendment also identifies freedoms of speech and the press, equally, as rights; and I think it is universally understood that a major purpose of these rights, if not the major purpose, is to allow the expression of political opinions.

The First Amendment just says Congress can't make a law discriminating against you. Now, if I wanted to fire an employee because he just joined the Mormon Cult, I should have every right to do that, because frankly, I wouldn't trust a Mormon as far as I could throw him.

Of course, I don't and I shouldn't. Because we have other laws protecting religion, race, sexual orientation, etc.

The problem is, when do these political or religious opinions become detrimental to the business? For instance, if your co-worker is a crazy Jehovah's Witless who spends all her time trying to convert coworkers on the company's time, they probably should get fired. If someone was caught carrying a tiki torch at a racist rally, um, yeah, that would reflect badly on the business.

I'm rather torn on whether employers ought to be allowed to discriminate on the basis of criteria that do not directly relate to an employee's suitability for a position. I take the First Amendment to very strongly imply a freedom of association, based on the explicit freedoms of expression, religion, and assembly; and on that basis, a right to choose, in any context, not associate with any individual, for any reason, in any context.

But I also recognize the folly and the harm in random discrimination. In an employment situation, it seems wring to me for any employer to discriminate against any employee on the basis of any criterion that does not relate directly to that employee's ability to do his job and to uphold the interests of his employer.

You realize that "random discrimination" is an oxymoron, right Mormon Bob? The point about discrimination is that it ISN'T Random. You are signaling out people for their race, religion or sexual orientation.

Again, even if you had protections, the reality is, we live in a world of "At Will", right to work, non-union employment where anyone can be fired at any time. I really don't have to come up with a reason to fire you. If I wanted to get a Mormon or a Republican off my staff, if I were a business owner, I'd just put them on a PIP and write them up for any minor infraction. or I could claim that business is down and I have to make cuts.

The people who've been publicly fired like Gina Carano get fired because they've brought public scrutiny on the company or otherwise portrayed it in a bad light.