Two Years After Khashoggi’s Murder, Why is America Still An Accomplice to MBS’s Crimes?

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For the next two weeks President Trump will probably not be feeling well enough to do any saber rattling with his Saudi allies against Iran...

See: So Biden becomes president and Iran starts saber rattling....Joes response is?

But not to worry. Our Commander-in-Chief has already approved the continuing sale of expensive offensive weapons and direct U.S. air assistance to the Saudi war against Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East. It’s also not known if Trump will feel well enough to phone Crown Prince MBS to congratulate him on the 2nd anniversary of his sending that doctor and hit squad to murder and surgically mutilate Jamal Kashoggi in the Saudi Embassy in Turkey. Ah well, we all have our bad days:


Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi was brutally murdered on October 2, 2018 by agents of Saudi Arabia’s despotic government, and the CIA concluded they killed him on direct orders from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS). Eight Saudi men have been convicted of Khashoggi’s murder by a Saudi court in what the Washington Post characterized as sham trials with no transparency. The higher-ups who ordered the murder, including MBS, continue to escape responsibility.

Khashoggi’s assassination and dismemberment was so horrific and cold-blooded that it sparked worldwide public outrage. President Trump, however, stood by MBS, bragging to journalist Bob Woodward that he saved the prince’s “ass” and got “Congress to leave him alone.”...

As we mark two years since Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, we may also soon be marking the end of the Trump administration. While it is hard to take Vice President Biden on his word that he would not sell more weapons to the Saudis and would make them “pay the price” for killing Khashoggi, it is good to hear a presidential candidate admit that there is “very little social redeeming value in the present government in Saudi Arabia” and call it a “pariah state.” ...


While there may be “very little redeeming social value“ in our Saudi allies, who have supported ISIS and ISIS-like groups all over the Middle East, there is plenty of money at stake there, even now when we are no longer dependent on Gulf Oil. A phased withdrawal from the region and a more equitable policy balancing between Shia Iran and the Sunni Gulf Monarchies would better serve U.S. and world interests. But that would require statesmanship, and much too much resemble what Obama and the world’s great powers were aiming at before President Trump tore up the JCPOA nuclear agreements with Persian Iran.
 
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For the next two weeks President Trump will probably not be feeling well enough to do any saber rattling with his Saudi allies against Iran...

See: So Biden becomes president and Iran starts saber rattling....Joes response is?

But not to worry. Our Commander-in-Chief has already approved the continuing sale of expensive offensive weapons and direct U.S. air assistance to the Saudi war against Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East. It’s also not known if Trump will feel well enough to phone Crown Prince MBS to congratulate him on the 2nd anniversary of his sending that doctor and hit squad to murder and surgically mutilate Jamal Kashoggi in the Saudi Embassy in Turkey. Ah well, we all have our bad days:


Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi was brutally murdered on October 2, 2018 by agents of Saudi Arabia’s despotic government, and the CIA concluded they killed him on direct orders from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS). Eight Saudi men have been convicted of Khashoggi’s murder by a Saudi court in what the Washington Post characterized as sham trials with no transparency. The higher-ups who ordered the murder, including MBS, continue to escape responsibility.

Khashoggi’s assassination and dismemberment was so horrific and cold-blooded that it sparked worldwide public outrage. President Trump, however, stood by MBS, bragging to journalist Bob Woodward that he saved the prince’s “ass” and got “Congress to leave him alone.”...

As we mark two years since Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, we may also soon be marking the end of the Trump administration. While it is hard to take Vice President Biden on his word that he would not sell more weapons to the Saudis and would make them “pay the price” for killing Khashoggi, it is good to hear a presidential candidate admit that there is “very little social redeeming value in the present government in Saudi Arabia” and call it a “pariah state.” ...

While there may be “very little social redeeming value“ in our Saudi allies, who have supported ISIS and ISIS-like groups all over the Middle East, there is plenty of money at stake there, even now when we are no longer dependent on Gulf oil. A phased withdrawal from the region and a more equitable policy balancing between Shia Iran and its Sunni Gulf Monarchy enemies would better serve U.S. and world interests. But that would require statesmanship, and much too much resemble what Obama and the world’s great powers were aiming at before President Trump tore up the JCPOA nuclear agreements with Persian Iran.
Why should we care?
 
For the next two weeks President Trump will probably not be feeling well enough to do any saber rattling with his Saudi allies against Iran...

See: So Biden becomes president and Iran starts saber rattling....Joes response is?

But not to worry. Our Commander-in-Chief has already approved the continuing sale of expensive offensive weapons and direct U.S. air assistance to the Saudi war against Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East. It’s also not known if Trump will feel well enough to phone Crown Prince MBS to congratulate him on the 2nd anniversary of his sending that doctor and hit squad to murder and surgically mutilate Jamal Kashoggi in the Saudi Embassy in Turkey. Ah well, we all have our bad days:


Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi was brutally murdered on October 2, 2018 by agents of Saudi Arabia’s despotic government, and the CIA concluded they killed him on direct orders from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS). Eight Saudi men have been convicted of Khashoggi’s murder by a Saudi court in what the Washington Post characterized as sham trials with no transparency. The higher-ups who ordered the murder, including MBS, continue to escape responsibility.

Khashoggi’s assassination and dismemberment was so horrific and cold-blooded that it sparked worldwide public outrage. President Trump, however, stood by MBS, bragging to journalist Bob Woodward that he saved the prince’s “ass” and got “Congress to leave him alone.”...

As we mark two years since Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, we may also soon be marking the end of the Trump administration. While it is hard to take Vice President Biden on his word that he would not sell more weapons to the Saudis and would make them “pay the price” for killing Khashoggi, it is good to hear a presidential candidate admit that there is “very little social redeeming value in the present government in Saudi Arabia” and call it a “pariah state.” ...

While there may be “very little social redeeming value“ in our Saudi allies, who have supported ISIS and ISIS-like groups all over the Middle East, there is plenty of money at stake there, even now when we are no longer dependent on Gulf oil. A phased withdrawal from the region and a more equitable policy balancing between Shia Iran and its Sunni Gulf Monarchy enemies would better serve U.S. and world interests. But that would require statesmanship, and much too much resemble what Obama and the world’s great powers were aiming at before President Trump tore up the JCPOA nuclear agreements with Persian Iran.
Why should we care?

Because we selling them nuclear technology...:dunno:
 
Khashoggi's death wasn't a murder at all. Moe Salman is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia and executed one of his subjects as a matter of judicial protocol for serious crimes against the monarchy on the Kingdom's territory.

Styling it a "murder" isn't accurate.
 
Meanwhile jillian is still for the ()bama Iranian deal.

:doubt:

For the next two weeks President Trump will probably not be feeling well enough to do any saber rattling with his Saudi allies against Iran...

See: So Biden becomes president and Iran starts saber rattling....Joes response is?

But not to worry. Our Commander-in-Chief has already approved the continuing sale of expensive offensive weapons and direct U.S. air assistance to the Saudi war against Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East. It’s also not known if Trump will feel well enough to phone Crown Prince MBS to congratulate him on the 2nd anniversary of his sending that doctor and hit squad to murder and surgically mutilate Jamal Kashoggi in the Saudi Embassy in Turkey. Ah well, we all have our bad days:


Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi was brutally murdered on October 2, 2018 by agents of Saudi Arabia’s despotic government, and the CIA concluded they killed him on direct orders from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS). Eight Saudi men have been convicted of Khashoggi’s murder by a Saudi court in what the Washington Post characterized as sham trials with no transparency. The higher-ups who ordered the murder, including MBS, continue to escape responsibility.

Khashoggi’s assassination and dismemberment was so horrific and cold-blooded that it sparked worldwide public outrage. President Trump, however, stood by MBS, bragging to journalist Bob Woodward that he saved the prince’s “ass” and got “Congress to leave him alone.”...

As we mark two years since Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, we may also soon be marking the end of the Trump administration. While it is hard to take Vice President Biden on his word that he would not sell more weapons to the Saudis and would make them “pay the price” for killing Khashoggi, it is good to hear a presidential candidate admit that there is “very little social redeeming value in the present government in Saudi Arabia” and call it a “pariah state.” ...


While there may be “very little redeeming social value“ in our Saudi allies, who have supported ISIS and ISIS-like groups all over the Middle East, there is plenty of money at stake there, even now when we are no longer dependent on Gulf Oil. A phased withdrawal from the region and a more equitable policy balancing between Shia Iran and the Sunni Gulf Monarchies would better serve U.S. and world interests. But that would require statesmanship, and much too much resemble what Obama and the world’s great powers were aiming at before President Trump tore up the JCPOA nuclear agreements with Persian Iran.
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^13/9/11

I'm surely not missing this terrorist ... even though the enemedia and the left wanted to lionize the pos.
 
Legal Definition of accomplice. : one who intentionally and voluntarily participates with another in a crime by encouraging or assisting in the commission of the crime or by failing to prevent it though under a duty to do so the accomplice of the burglar an accomplice in a robbery.


DURR.
 
Loving thugs doesn't make you an accomplice.
What a hair-splitting, thug-loving mumbler!
Only a shameless fool, a Trump-loving sycophant, would talk like this!

What a whiney liberal twat.

Legal Definition of accomplice. : one who intentionally and voluntarily participates with another in a crime by encouraging or assisting in the commission of the crime or by failing to prevent it though under a duty to do so the accomplice of the burglar an accomplice in a robbery.
 
Two New Movies Share a Clear Message: Don’t Forget Jamal Khashoggi

“Kingdom of Silence,” due Friday, and “The Dissident,” due Dec. 18, revisit the killing of the Saudi journalist Khashoggi in Turkey in 2018.

His death horrified the world... Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi Arabian journalist and outspoken critic of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, was killed and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Turkey. After a cover-up, Saudi Arabia issued verdicts in a secret trial that absolved Prince Mohammed of any wrongdoing....

Two years on, two new documentaries remind us that Turkish prosecutors — and those closest to Khashoggi — are still awaiting justice... “Kingdom of Silence,” a Showtime documentary by Rick Rowley (“16 Shots”), debuted Friday, the second anniversary of Khashoggi’s death. (In a rare move, Showtime is allowing nonsubscribers to watch it free on the platform and on YouTube.)...

The film is a portrait of a longtime insider who had valuable, potentially damning, information. It uncovers an unreported detail: Right before his death, Khashoggi had agreed to meet with an investigator working with families of 9/11 victims that are suing the Saudi government. The investigator wanted to discuss the government’s ties to Al Qaeda, but Khashoggi was killed before that meeting could take place.

At first, Rowley set out to craft a murder mystery. But as he dug deeper, he no longer wanted to investigate who was behind the murder — “It’s not a question,” he said — but why it took place. “Who was this man that the kingdom would risk so much to silence?”


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I would add: Why has our administration continued to support the Saudi Crown Prince’s government and cover up its many crimes?
 
“Jamal Khashoggi ... had served as a media adviser to the Saudi embassy in Washington. Then late in 2016 when he criticised Donald Trump, Riyadh moved swiftly to distance itself from his remarks.

“As president, Trump shielded the kingdom's rulers, particularly MBS, from the fallout and outrage that followed the assassination.

“Weeks after the murder, the White House released a statement defending the Saudi royal family and hailing economic relations, including weapons deals, between Washington and Riyadh.

“Over the past two years, Trump has also blocked congressional efforts aimed against Riyadh, vetoing resolutions to freeze weapon deals and to end US support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen.

“The US administration has also ignored a legally binding congressional request to release the intelligence community's findings into the assassination.”

 
‘No single event has threatened the rule of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman more than the murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi in a Saudi consulate two years ago this week.

The grisly episode turned the leader, now 35, into a pariah as top political figures and business executives canceled and postponed meetings, the U.N. rights investigator declared the killing an “international crime,” and news media scrutinized the Saudi government’s shifting array of explanations and retractions related to the killing.

The decision by President Trump to back the young leader in the weeks and months after Khashoggi’s death proved critical to restoring the crown prince’s standing and propping up the Saudi kingdom’s tarnished image. “I saved his ass,” Trump said of Mohammed, according to a new book by veteran journalist Bob Woodward. “I was able to get Congress to leave him alone.”

The payoff for the crown prince is evident: The outrage has largely subsided, and he now regularly engages with the world’s political and financial elite. But the benefits for the Trump administration are far from clear, as the two governments remain at loggerheads over a range of economic, security and political issues on the second anniversary of Khashoggi’s death.

“The Saudis have mostly been a headache for this administration, despite its support for MBS,” said David Ottaway, a Saudi expert at the Wilson Center in Washington, using the initials of the crown prince. “Unless you’re an arms manufacturer, this relationship has offered minuses, not pluses.”’


Typical Republican administration: support authoritarian thugs, murderers, and dictators to the detriment of the American people.
 
Now finally there is a U.S. lawsuit against Trump’s “I saved his ass” buddy — the butcher Crown Prince MSB of Saudi Arabia.

See Fiancee of Khashoggi, human rights group sue Saudi crown prince in U.S.

People wonder why journalists despise Trump? Partly it is personal. MSB sent a special plane of his bodyguards & a doctor with a surgical saw to the Turkish Embassy to butcher prominent Washington Post journalist Jamal Kashoggi.

But money rules in D.C. And nobody has provided or provides a steadier stream of money into Republican politicians‘ pockets than the Saudis. So don’t expect any success for this lawsuit. It will fade just as has the lawsuit of family members of those murdered by 15 Saudi nationals on 9/11.
 
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