Two Cruise Ship Cases Prove that COVID-19 Is Not Even Close to Being 100% Contagious

[mikegriffith1]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

 

[OldLady]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

That's reassuring. Thanks.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

Has anyone ever claimed it was 100% contagious?

 

[occupied]

Next year's Darwin awards may be given out to the American right who decided to sacrifice it's weaker members for the sake of the economy.

 

[Toro]

I saw a similar argument to this a few weeks ago.

I also read a piece two weeks back that said based on what happened in Asia, the number of cases and deaths would explode exponentially then level off in 3-4 weeks because of social distancing and other precautions. If correct, this will begin to subside in mid-April.

 

[Mac1958]

We all have varying types and levels of immune systems, so it's damn nice to know that this thing can't just overwhelm any of them.

Good. I'll sure as hell take it.

 

[2aguy]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

Yeah......we tried to explain this to the democrats, panicked Americans and those who suffer Trump Derangement Syndrome....but their hate for Trump has blinded them to reason and opened them up to the panic, fear and hysteria created and pushed by the democrat party members who control the main stream press......

But......they are more than happy the American economy has been wrecked....because they want to hurt Trump no matter the cost...

The Wuhan Virus is Turning into a Wimp

Our medical care system itself is one of the biggest problems we face as we fight the coronavirus. As we learn more about the COVID-19 Wuhan virus each day, it is becoming increasingly obvious that it isn’t the great threat to our health and...

www.americanthinker.com

As we learn more about the COVID-19 Wuhan virus each day, it is becoming increasingly obvious that it isn’t the great threat to our health and survival we were initially led to believe. It is turning out to be more like the schoolyard bully I remember from grade school days who intimidated me with all sorts of name-calling and threats until the day arrived when I decided to fight back. He wasn’t expecting that and when he retreated, I realized he was just a loudmouthed wimp and he quit harassing me.

This isn’t to say the Wuhan virus cannot kill, because it is the nature of viruses to attack where they find weakness, multiply to overwhelm bodily defenses and ultimately kill the host. While that is happening in some cases, evidence is growing that it isn’t nearly as deadly as we were made to fear. Along with much lower death rates, there is growing anecdotal evidence that the people who tested positive and then died were victims of multiple conditions and it wasn’t the COVID-19 virus but a synergy of the multiple attackers that killed them.

In other words, compared to what we were told, the Wuhan virus is a wimp.

To understand this, consider the flu. Many patients suffering from the flu also develop pneumonia. The flu typically does not cause pneumonia. Rather, it creates the conditions in your lungs, allowing the bacteria or virus causing pneumonia to invade, multiply, and worsen until it becomes life-threatening. A postmortem testing of the fluid from the patient’s lungs may show that they were suffering from multiple infections at the same time while not displaying enough of the symptoms of any one of them to lead to a diagnosis of that disease. The medical term for that situation is “comorbidity” meaning that multiple causative factors existed at the time of death.

 

[Seawytch]

Who has been claiming it was 100% contagious? I've heard it is considerably more contagious than the flu or H1N1, but I've never heard any claims of it being 100%.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

Has anyone ever claimed it was 100% contagious?

Oh, heck, many people are acting like they will automatically catch the virus if they are exposed to it even for a few brief moments. I've chatted with many people who had the impression that if they were around an infected person, they would almost certainly catch the virus.

 

[2aguy]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

Has anyone ever claimed it was 100% contagious?

Oh, heck, many people are acting like they will automatically catch the virus if they are exposed to it even for a few brief moments. I've chatted with many people who had the impression that if they were around an infected person, they would almost certainly catch the virus.

And the democrat party members of the press have done all they could to give people the idea that the virus is deadly to everyone........since they haven't explained the likley victims vs. those who will get it and just get a fever and a cough and be fine....

 

[dannyboys]

If all Americans can just hang on until next January then President Biden will put things right.
In a sick way I want Biden to win in Nov.
That will guarantee there will never be another DEM President for generations.
I'm sure Warren, when she takes over the Presidency from Biden after he's been President for four months, will be able to do what the REPs couldn't visa via the economy. Warren will appoint AOC as the Treasury Secretary so she can destroy what's left of the economy and Omar as the Secretary of Defense will defund the US military.
Welcome to a DEM White house. AKA America's Living Hell. The virus will be like a fucking walk in the park by comparison.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

There's an annoying math error in my OP, but luckily it doesn't affect any of my key points. I said,

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

This should read:

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 354 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of 33.8%.

My mistake was saying that if we assume that 70% of the passengers did not have contact with an infected person, this would mean that 119 out of 825 caught the virus, when it would actually mean that 119 out of 354 did not catch the virus. 825 is 70% of 1179, and I simply made the mistake of using that number as the remaining number of people, when the number was 354.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Next year's Darwin awards may be given out to the American right who decided to sacrifice it's weaker members for the sake of the economy.

Keep yapping.

Somebody might actually take you seriously.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

While it is just a simple case with no controls, it does provide some hope.

It is going to be a while before they can break this (virus) down into the kind of useful data we'd like to have.

For now, there is nothing to justify shutting the country down.

 

[luchitociencia]

Contagious 100% or not, the apparent false hope is that isolation will "stop" and "kill" the virus.

Isolation might only slow the spread, and this is conditioned to how the virus will find the way to survive. This virus has existed since unknown times and its crossing to other species is not by magic but for certain conditions that triggered such jumping.

The ones who acquired it and the symptoms passed away, what is the guarantee that they won't be focus of infection and sources of spreading next time something triggers the virus to act like crazy?

 

[Siete]

humans have no immunity - if you come in close enough contact to someone carrying the virus, you have the virus.

close contact with - key words

but what the hell, get your ass back to work.

eos

 

[occupied]

Next year's Darwin awards may be given out to the American right who decided to sacrifice it's weaker members for the sake of the economy.

Keep yapping.

Somebody might actually take you seriously.

Being a Trump supporter will certainly end up being a measurable risk factor of dying of this disease. I saw the Trumpbots at our local hardware store still shaking hands, still talking close. Seems they are congregating there since it's still open. I had to go get something for the house and there they were, about a dozen of them standing inside the door chit-chatting. Bunch of middle-aged men with nothing better to do than to flirt with death. I live in a really small town, I know these men, I do not want to see them get sick but it will be difficult to have any pity for them if they do.

 

[OnePercenter]

Next year's Darwin awards may be given out to the American right who decided to sacrifice it's weaker members for the sake of the economy.

I nominate Lt. Gov of Texas, the "honorableness whore" Dan Patrick!

Texas Lt. Gov.: Grandparents aren't afraid to die for economy

“Those of us who are 70 plus, we’ll take care of ourselves. But don’t sacrifice the country,” Patrick told Tucker Carlson.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Billy_Bob]

Here is some very encouraging news: The cases of two cruise ships prove that COVID-19 is not even close to being 100% contagious. In other words, if you come into contact with an infected person, this does *not* mean you will automatically catch the virus. The cruise ships were the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess. Well below 50% of the people on those ships caught the virus, even though they were exposed to the virus in a relatively small, confined area.

In the case of the Diamond Princess, 712 out of 3,711 people in the confined environment of the cruise ship caught the virus. That means that only 19.2% of the people who came into contact with the virus caught the virus.

But, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of the Diamond Princess passengers somehow never had contact with any infected persons. That would mean that 712 out of 1850 passengers who were exposed to the virus caught the virus. That would still be a contraction rate of well below 50% (38.5%, to be exact).

Also, among the 712 passengers who caught the virus, 331, or 46.5%, had experienced no symptoms as of the time they were tested. Furthermore, only 9.7% of those who experienced symptoms required intensive care.

As for deaths among the 712 Diamond Princess passengers who caught the virus, some sources say that 8 people died. The CDC says that 9 people died. 8 deaths out of 712 is a death rate of 1.125%, or a 98.875% survival rate. If 9 people died, 9 deaths out of 712 cases is death rate of 1.3%, or a 98.7% survival rate.

In the case of the Grand Princess, there were 1,179 people on board (1,111 passengers and 68 crew members). As far as the CDC can determine, 119 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus. If 119 of the 1,179 people on the Grand Princess caught the virus, that means that only 10.1% of the people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus.

Even if we assume that 70% of the people on the Grand Princess somehow never came into contact with any infected persons, that would still mean that only 119 out of 825 people who were exposed to the virus caught the virus, which would be a contraction rate of only 14.5%.

As for deaths on the Grand Princess, as far as the CDC can determine, only 1 of the 119 people who caught the virus died from it. 1 death out of 119 cases is a death rate of 0.842%, or less than 1%, or a 99.158% survival rate.

Here is the CDC report on the Diamond Princess and Grand Princess cases:

Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships...

More than 800 cases of laboratory-confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 cases occurred during outbreaks on three cruise ship voyages, and cases linked to several additional cruises have been reported...

www.cdc.gov

Has anyone ever claimed it was 100% contagious?

We knew the contagion rate was in the 10-15% region for three months now.. Only the hype from CNN and MSDNC was claiming it was higher.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Being a Trump supporter will certainly end up being a measurable risk factor of dying of this disease.

What an ignorant rant...

Those old enough to see the socialist bull shit for what it is are in the age bracket of most vulnerable.

Your advocating the ultimate censorship of your dumbass views.... DEATH...

TWO WORDS; FUCK YOU!