TULIP (God calls some to atheism)

[BreezeWood]

It has and continues to come to pass:
700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.
Which Jewish line Christ would come from.
What the public would call Him.
That His robe would be gambled over.
Zechariah told us how much Christ would be betrayed for. What the currency would be made of. Where it would end up and what it was used for afterward.
1000 years before the event, and before the practice was invented, it was foretold that the Messiah would be crucified.
That His body would be pierced.
Buried in a rich man's tomb.
Christ, Himself fulfilled 48 prophesies. The chance of that alone would be 1 to the 157th power:
1 in 10,000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000.

For the first time in the history of man, all of the prophesies that needed to be fulfilled before Christ returns have been fulfilled. There is more prophesy concerning the End Time than any other time in history. We are fulfilling those now. Here are some foretold:
The Jews will return to their land.
They will take control of Jerusalem.
The nation would be born in a day.
They will return to their ancient language, which has never happened with a dispersed people.
And they are preparing to rebuild the foretold Temple.


Now you, human. Tell me what horse is going to win the Derby next month...

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For the first time in the history of man, all of the prophesies that needed to be fulfilled before Christ returns have been fulfilled.

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not all ram - the only one that truly is prescribed ... to be completed.

the true prophecy ram, the religion of antiquity - judgement will occur when all have triumphed similarly - good vs evil - will be the time for the - final judgement. and no, your messiah will have no bearing for either its occurrence or outcome.

good luck, sinner at least final judgement will not occur with you around - for the good. if that might be heart warming for you.

 

[The Irish Ram]

700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.

And he wasn't born there. Jesus of Nazareth was from...Nazareth. I stopped there. They had to include this fraud to match the prophecy.

Lived in Nazareth after returning from Egypt. Born in Bethlehem. You stopped because you can't refute the truth.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Lived in Nazareth after returning from Egypt. Born in Bethlehem.

Nah, that's a bit of fraud to make the myth fit the prophecy.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If we start with the premise that a magic sky fairy created everything, and has the ability of total control over everything on a whim, it is not a giant leap to imagine virtually anything and and assign it to that magical being's will

Maybe you didnt find him because of your disrespectful and blasphemous attitude.

God reveals Himself to a humble heart and an open mind. You have neither

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

God reveals Himself to a humble heart and an open mind

Oh yeah? Did god tell you that?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Which Jewish line Christ would come from.

But not Joseph's son. So another bit of a fraudulent oopsie there.

I know your faith handicaps you in rationally assessing this, but you should still ne able to understand that the people who wrote the gospels had the prophecies to read, and then fulfilled them as best they could. Which means they didn't actually come true. That's how Jesus of Nazareth has to be moved to Bethlehem, and how they can enjoy the contradictory notions of immaculate conception and the line of David. It would be so obvious to you, were it any other work of fiction but this one.

Correct. Not Joseph son. The Jewish line goes through the mother, not the father. Because you always know who the mother is, not so much the father. The oopsie is on you...

You are wrong with the rest too. They had some prophesy to read, but had no ability to make them come true. It was prophesied that Christ would be crucified 1000 years before He was and the practice had not been invented yet. Did the mysterious writers have him crucified so they could check that one off? Reading had nothing to do with the events occurring. Do you think the Romans read about Christ's robe being gambled for and then did it to make the prophesy come true?

How did the mysterious writer know that Israel would become a nation AGAIN? In a day?? They already were a nation. Was it just a lucky guess?
And that the Jews would resurrect their former language? No one else ever had. Another good guess? How did they know that the Jews would reclaim Jerusalem? Another lucky guess?
How did they know back then that we would be capable of destroying all life on earth when all they were used to were arrows and sling shots?

 

[The Irish Ram]

It has and continues to come to pass:
700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.
Which Jewish line Christ would come from.
What the public would call Him.
That His robe would be gambled over.
Zechariah told us how much Christ would be betrayed for. What the currency would be made of. Where it would end up and what it was used for afterward.
1000 years before the event, and before the practice was invented, it was foretold that the Messiah would be crucified.
That His body would be pierced.
Buried in a rich man's tomb.
Christ, Himself fulfilled 48 prophesies. The chance of that alone would be 1 to the 157th power:
1 in 10,000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000.

For the first time in the history of man, all of the prophesies that needed to be fulfilled before Christ returns have been fulfilled. There is more prophesy concerning the End Time than any other time in history. We are fulfilling those now. Here are some foretold:
The Jews will return to their land.
They will take control of Jerusalem.
The nation would be born in a day.
They will return to their ancient language, which has never happened with a dispersed people.
And they are preparing to rebuild the foretold Temple.


Now you, human. Tell me what horse is going to win the Derby next month...

.

For the first time in the history of man, all of the prophesies that needed to be fulfilled before Christ returns have been fulfilled.

.
not all ram - the only one that truly is prescribed ... to be completed.

the true prophecy ram, the religion of antiquity - judgement will occur when all have triumphed similarly - good vs evil - will be the time for the - final judgement. and no, your messiah will have no bearing for either its occurrence or outcome.

good luck, sinner at least final judgement will not occur with you around - for the good. if that might be heart warming for you.

Breezie honey, you've concocted your very own religion. The only thing to debate there is all in your head...

 

[The Irish Ram]

Lived in Nazareth after returning from Egypt. Born in Bethlehem.

Nah, that's a bit of fraud to make the myth fit the prophecy.

Do you have proof of the fraud or do you just say that?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Jewish line goes through the mother, not the father.

Well you better contact the publisher of the bible and ask them to make a correction, since the bible traces the line from David to Joseph. Oh, and even then, Jesus was made a son of David by divine decree of...Joseph. Who knew he was not the father of Jesus. And was not a god.

More fraud.

Sorry pal, you're not going to equivocate and invent your way out of all of this contradictory nonsense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you have proof of the fraud

It just seems both obvious and infinitely more likely. And you would agree 100%, were we pointing out the fraud in any other myth.

 

[BreezeWood]

It has and continues to come to pass:
700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.
Which Jewish line Christ would come from.
What the public would call Him.
That His robe would be gambled over.
Zechariah told us how much Christ would be betrayed for. What the currency would be made of. Where it would end up and what it was used for afterward.
1000 years before the event, and before the practice was invented, it was foretold that the Messiah would be crucified.
That His body would be pierced.
Buried in a rich man's tomb.
Christ, Himself fulfilled 48 prophesies. The chance of that alone would be 1 to the 157th power:
1 in 10,000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000.

For the first time in the history of man, all of the prophesies that needed to be fulfilled before Christ returns have been fulfilled. There is more prophesy concerning the End Time than any other time in history. We are fulfilling those now. Here are some foretold:
The Jews will return to their land.
They will take control of Jerusalem.
The nation would be born in a day.
They will return to their ancient language, which has never happened with a dispersed people.
And they are preparing to rebuild the foretold Temple.


Now you, human. Tell me what horse is going to win the Derby next month...

.

For the first time in the history of man, all of the prophesies that needed to be fulfilled before Christ returns have been fulfilled.

.
not all ram - the only one that truly is prescribed ... to be completed.

the true prophecy ram, the religion of antiquity - judgement will occur when all have triumphed similarly - good vs evil - will be the time for the - final judgement. and no, your messiah will have no bearing for either its occurrence or outcome.

good luck, sinner at least final judgement will not occur with you around - for the good. if that might be heart warming for you.

Breezie honey, you've concocted your very own religion. The only thing to debate there is all in your head...

.

Breezie honey, you've concocted your very own religion. The only thing to debate there is all in your head...

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the religion of antiquity - the triumph of good vs evil - is paraphrased in your christian bible, the parable of noah - it is you who have manufactured a false messiah religion that is a contradiction for the very purpose of a final judgement - and your creation of a heaven filled with sinners could be no further from any reality but one of purely nefarious motivation.

put a stop to your sinning, ram - its hopefully never to late. till it is.

 

[presonorek]

700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.

And he wasn't born there. Jesus of Nazareth was from...Nazareth. I stopped there. They had to include this fraud to match the prophecy.

So much time has passed that I can claim Jesus was born in Columbus Ohio. Nobody could verify it one way or the other. Let’s just go with Bethlehem for argument’s sake.

 

[ding]

The Jewish line goes through the mother, not the father.

Well you better contact the publisher of the bible and ask them to make a correction, since the bible traces the line from David to Joseph. Oh, and even then, Jesus was made a son of David by divine decree of...Joseph. Who knew he was not the father of Jesus. And was not a god.

More fraud.

Sorry pal, you're not going to equivocate and invent your way out of all of this contradictory nonsense.

Mary was from David's line.

 

[ding]

700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.

And he wasn't born there. Jesus of Nazareth was from...Nazareth. I stopped there. They had to include this fraud to match the prophecy.

So much time has passed that I can claim Jesus was born in Columbus Ohio. Nobody could verify it one way or the other. Let’s just go with Bethlehem for argument’s sake.

The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem - Jews for Jesus

The birthplace of the Messiah seemed to be a lively topic of discussion among the Jewish people who we encounter in the New Testament.

jewsforjesus.org

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

700 years before Christ's birth, Micah told us where He would be born.

And he wasn't born there. Jesus of Nazareth was from...Nazareth. I stopped there. They had to include this fraud to match the prophecy.

So much time has passed that I can claim Jesus was born in Columbus Ohio. Nobody could verify it one way or the other. Let’s just go with Bethlehem for argument’s sake.

Right. They just had to put Jesus of Nazareth in Bethlehem. And no updates for about 30 years. Sure. It's just so obvious.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Mary was from David's line.

Weird that the Bible didn't mention it, and instead described Joseph's lineage. What a poor piece of historical literature.

 

[ding]

Mary was from David's line.

Weird that the Bible didn't mention it, and instead described Joseph's lineage. What a poor piece of historical literature.

It does though, in the gospel of Luke.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Mary was from David's line.

Weird that the Bible didn't mention it, and instead described Joseph's lineage. What a poor piece of historical literature.

It does though, in the gospel of Luke.

Well that's what you get, when the lineage is based on mythology instead of history.

 

[ding]

Mary was from David's line.

Weird that the Bible didn't mention it, and instead described Joseph's lineage. What a poor piece of historical literature.

It does though, in the gospel of Luke.

Well that's what you get, when the lineage is based on mythology instead of history.

Weird that's what you say when you discovered the Bible did mention it,

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Weird that's what you say when you discovered the Bible did mention it,

Oh really? Quote those verses for us. You SURE? You SURE it's not one of those, "fill in the blanks to retrofit to the prophecy"? Of course you are sure. Which is why you are going to quote, very quickly and easily, the verses for us that will in no way look like you filled in some blanks to retrofit it.