try to convince me it was anything other than the official story.

[eots]

The only common denominator of any conspiracy theory is that it requires a leap of faith to subscribe to it. Once a person has made that leap of faith, they automatically claim to be in the "know", those that dismiss them are "sheep", and those that argue with them are "enemy agents".

All rational thought is suspended. Theories are supported by evidence that is shoddy. Holes in the theory and lack of evidence are attributed to the widening conspiracy. Answers are demanded for items that support their conspiracy. Facts that refute it and simple logic are ignored. Like a religion, certain sacred tenets that are especially powerful are adhered to and brought out repeatedly.

The conspiracy theorists begins to associate with like minded individuals with further reinforces their belief that the "rest of the world is crazy".

Literally, this outline applies to every conspiracy theory.




It's easy to see why it is so seductive to some people. Everyone wants to be "in the know" or the savior who is bringing light to a dark world.

it is a criminal investigation not a Bigfoot story moron and both members of the 9/11 commission and NIST have denounced their investigation into these crimes and made this plea...


“I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,”
Dr. Quintiere.

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[DiveCon]

The only common denominator of any conspiracy theory is that it requires a leap of faith to subscribe to it. Once a person has made that leap of faith, they automatically claim to be in the "know", those that dismiss them are "sheep", and those that argue with them are "enemy agents".

All rational thought is suspended. Theories are supported by evidence that is shoddy. Holes in the theory and lack of evidence are attributed to the widening conspiracy. Answers are demanded for items that support their conspiracy. Facts that refute it and simple logic are ignored. Like a religion, certain sacred tenets that are especially powerful are adhered to and brought out repeatedly.

The conspiracy theorists begins to associate with like minded individuals with further reinforces their belief that the "rest of the world is crazy".

Literally, this outline applies to every conspiracy theory.




It's easy to see why it is so seductive to some people. Everyone wants to be "in the know" or the savior who is bringing light to a dark world.

it is a criminal investigation not a Bigfoot story moron and both members of the 9/11 commission and NIST have denounced their investigation into these crimes and made this plea...


“I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,”
Dr. Quintiere.

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

except you are not "in a proper way"

 

[eots]

The only common denominator of any conspiracy theory is that it requires a leap of faith to subscribe to it. Once a person has made that leap of faith, they automatically claim to be in the "know", those that dismiss them are "sheep", and those that argue with them are "enemy agents".

All rational thought is suspended. Theories are supported by evidence that is shoddy. Holes in the theory and lack of evidence are attributed to the widening conspiracy. Answers are demanded for items that support their conspiracy. Facts that refute it and simple logic are ignored. Like a religion, certain sacred tenets that are especially powerful are adhered to and brought out repeatedly.

The conspiracy theorists begins to associate with like minded individuals with further reinforces their belief that the "rest of the world is crazy".

Literally, this outline applies to every conspiracy theory.




It's easy to see why it is so seductive to some people. Everyone wants to be "in the know" or the savior who is bringing light to a dark world.

it is a criminal investigation not a Bigfoot story moron and both members of the 9/11 commission and NIST have denounced their investigation into these crimes and made this plea...


“I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,”
Dr. Quintiere.

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

except you are not "in a proper way"

thats why I leave much of the science and expertise up to these fellows.......shitflake


David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988. Personal blog 1/5/07: "David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True: This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2 [each 1300+ feet tall, 110 stories], and 7 were brought down by explosives. [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

... I implore my fellow physicists and engineers who may have the time, expertise, and (ideally) supercomputer access to get to work on the physics of the World Trade Center collapses and publish their findings in refereed journals like, say, the Journal of Applied Physics.


Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Bio: http://www.impactglassresearchinternational.com/index.html





Dwain Deets, MS Eng

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.



Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth

Bio: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov
Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 950 Architects and Engineers:





Larry L. Erickson, MS, PhD

Larry L. Erickson, BS Aeronautical Eng, MS Aeronautical Eng, PhD Eng Mechanics – Retired NASA Aerospace Engineer and Research Scientist. Conducted research in the fields of structural dynamics, aerodynamics, aeroelasticity and flutter. Recipient of NASA's Aerodynamics Division Researcher-of-the-Year Award. 33-year NASA career. Member, American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics. Instructor, Physics and Aerospace Engineering, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo 1998 - present. Author and co-author of several scientific papers on aerodynamic analysis. Contributing author to Applied Computational Aerodynamics (1990).
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"Serious technical investigations by experts seem to be lacking from the official explanations." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 950 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition



Lon J. Waters, PhD


Lon J. Waters, PhD Mathematics – Former staff member of the Maui High Performance Computing Center, a U.S. Department of Defense funded high performance computing and research facility. Former staff member of Sandia National Laboratories, a major research facility of the National Nuclear Security Administration, U.S. Department of Energy. Member Advisory Editorial Board, Journal of 9/11 Studies.

Signatory of Petition of Solidarity to the Attorney General of New York for a new independent grand jury investigation of 9/11 11/19/04: "We the undersigned: a) think that there is ample evidence and probable cause to believe that many grave and still unresolved crimes were committed by US officials prior to, during and after the events of 9/11; b) observe that most of these apparent crimes, including but not limited to abetment of mass murder, criminal negligence, insider trading, and obstruction of justice fall well within the jurisdiction of New York's top law enforcement officials ..." http://www.justicefor911.org


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 950 Architects and Engineers:

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[DiveCon]

it is a criminal investigation not a Bigfoot story moron and both members of the 9/11 commission and NIST have denounced their investigation into these crimes and made this plea...


“I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,”
Dr. Quintiere.

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

except you are not "in a proper way"

thats why I leave much of the science and expertise up to these fellows.......shitflake

again with your family names
you are the shitflake if there ever was one, fucktard

 

[CurveLight]

So, without jumping the gun, can you or can you not definitively prove the bush admin's conspiracy? That is what is so ironic. Every single version of 9/11 is a Conspiracy Theory. Nothing has been proven as the solid sequence of events.

no. obviously you need to read the definition of CONSPIRACY

con⋅spir⋅a⋅cy  [kuhn-spir-uh-see]
–noun, plural -cies.
1. the act of conspiring.
2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.

How is that different than what the bush admin claimed? Doesn't their version claim 2 or more alkida members secretly planned to hijack planes and crash them into buildings? Posting the definition just helped prove the bush admin's version is a conspiracy theory. I also noticed you didn't answer the question.

 

[CurveLight]

Hard to convince me we needed anymore evidence then the admissions by Bin Laden and Al Qaeda themselves. No proof needed to be offered.

Even Obama seems to think they were responsible otherwise he would have pulled us out of Afghanistan rather then throw us even more deeply into that war.


Man.....it must really suck when your delusions boomerang on you...huh?

There are several problems. The first is bin laden denied any involvement.
CNN.com - Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks - September 17, 2001

The US has never charged bin laden.

You're also claiming the confession is enough evidence...but it was the bush admin who made those claims. You're also forgetting it would be popular for groups to claim responsibility even if they had nothing to do with it.


So, without jumping the gun, can you or can you not definitively prove the bush admin's conspiracy? That is what is so ironic. Every single version of 9/11 is a Conspiracy Theory. Nothing has been proven as the solid sequence of events.

Bin Laden admitted he was behind it. Senior Al Qaeda members planned it and junior members carried it out.
Transcript of Osama bin Laden video-taped "Message to Americans"

The plan was to anger us enough to cause us to invade Afghanistan. It didn't work out quite that way....that is until that fucken idiot Obama decided to win an election by saying he was gonna win the good war.....in Afghanistan. He said he would find Bin Laden and he said if he's in Pakistan he would invade them as well. He's here to clean up Bush's mess after all.

Don't you remember all if this?

No...you're trying to claim now that Osama [rhymes with Obama] is innocent. So that must mean that Al Qaeda is innocent and only trying to defend themselves from false accusors.....by blowing up innocent civilians in cities all over the world.

Go soak your head dipshit.

Bin Laden admitted he was behind it. Senior Al Qaeda members planned it and junior members carried it out.
Transcript of Osama bin Laden video-taped "Message to Americans"

The plan was to anger us enough to cause us to invade Afghanistan. It didn't work out quite that way....that is until that fucken idiot Obama decided to win an election by saying he was gonna win the good war.....in Afghanistan. He said he would find Bin Laden and he said if he's in Pakistan he would invade them as well. He's here to clean up Bush's mess after all.

Don't you remember all if this?

No...you're trying to claim now that Osama [rhymes with Obama] is innocent. So that must mean that Al Qaeda is innocent and only trying to defend themselves from false accusors.....by blowing up innocent civilians in cities all over the world.

Go soak your head dipshit.[/QUOTE]



If bin laden's confession was credible then the US would have charged him. To this day he has never been charged with anything related to 9/11. You have ignored bin laden denied it less than a week after it happened. So which is true? He had a lot more to gain by admitting than denying it so why did he deny it twice?

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't put words in my mouth. I'm not defending bin laden or alkida but simply pointing out bush's version has not been proven true.

You also created a huge false dichotomy by saying obama believes it or he would have pulled us out of afghanistan. Do you understand why?

 

[CurveLight]

Wasn't Van Jones a "troofer"? He lost his job.

Truther; that he denied, among other things. (Communist comes to mind).

dont call em "truthers"
they dont give a rats ass about the truth
thats why i and many others call em troofers

I would love to see you make that false accusation to the faces of the families of 9/11 victims who created the Truth movement. Chances are, you'd just shribble up like an anemic raisin because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Who the hell makes such a ridiculous broadbrushing accusation?

 

[candycorn]

Truther; that he denied, among other things. (Communist comes to mind).

dont call em "truthers"
they dont give a rats ass about the truth
thats why i and many others call em troofers

I would love to see you make that false accusation to the faces of the families of 9/11 victims who created the Truth movement. Chances are, you'd just shribble up like an anemic raisin because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Who the hell makes such a ridiculous broadbrushing accusation?

What makes him say that? I'm not sure. What makes ME say that is the mountains of physical evidence that are routinely ignored by the twoofers.

For example...

Several pictures on the Internet and elsewhere reveal that the suspected hijackers went through, at the very least, airport security. Mohammed Atta's Voice is heard and was heard by several air traffic controllers.

That is the who

For example, the light poles outside of the Pentagon. There is no way in hell anything other than a plane brought them down due to the spacing. A missile could not have done it since at one point, the poles were nearly (if not over) 100 feet apart on the approach vector.

That is the what.

A cab driven by Lloyd England was hit by one of the poles the morning of 9/11 and it happened just prior to the Pentagon being struck.

That is the when.

Airplanes were hijacked four times on 9/11/01.

One plane was hijacked and flown into the North Tower of the WTC in Manhattan.

One plane was hijacked and flown into the South Tower of the WTC in Manhattan.

Another plane was hijacked and was crashed into a field in Pennsylvania when passengers revolted.

American Airlines Flight 77 was reported by the passengers as being hi-jacked.

That is the how. And the where

I'll leave the "why" up to you. But this show you why, IMHO, twoofers are just maybe a hair or two above pondscum both in intelligence and personality.

 

[geauxtohell]

The only common denominator of any conspiracy theory is that it requires a leap of faith to subscribe to it. Once a person has made that leap of faith, they automatically claim to be in the "know", those that dismiss them are "sheep", and those that argue with them are "enemy agents".

All rational thought is suspended. Theories are supported by evidence that is shoddy. Holes in the theory and lack of evidence are attributed to the widening conspiracy. Answers are demanded for items that support their conspiracy. Facts that refute it and simple logic are ignored. Like a religion, certain sacred tenets that are especially powerful are adhered to and brought out repeatedly.

The conspiracy theorists begins to associate with like minded individuals with further reinforces their belief that the "rest of the world is crazy".

Literally, this outline applies to every conspiracy theory.

It's easy to see why it is so seductive to some people. Everyone wants to be "in the know" or the savior who is bringing light to a dark world.

its along the same lines as i posted here:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...in-totally-ludicrous-conspiracy-theories.html

Looks like you beat me to the punch. Good post.

I find the psychology behind conspiracy theorists more interesting then their theories.

Also worth noting, within the population there are many different people that have access to the internet and post as an anonymous persona. Also within our society, there are a certain percentage of paranoid personality types and other psyches that would make people more apt to believe this. I am not throwing out any diagnosis, just making the point.

 

[geauxtohell]

it is a criminal investigation not a Bigfoot story moron and both members of the 9/11 commission and NIST have denounced their investigation into these crimes and made this plea...


“I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,”
Dr. Quintiere.

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Really? A criminal investigation by which law enforcement agencies?

Surely you guys aren't so deluded as to think you can deputize yourselves, issue subpoenas, and seat grand juries for indictment.

 

[geauxtohell]

thats why I leave much of the science and expertise up to these fellows.......shitflake

Except for the field of psychiatric medicine, where you regard yourself as an expert in the medical sciences who knows more than those who have had eight years of formal post-graduate training.

You leave the science up to the experts when it's convenient to your point. Otherwise you dismiss it. I've seen you do it time and time again.

Again, a hallmark of the conspiracy minded individual as outlined in my post.

 

[CurveLight]

dont call em "truthers"
they dont give a rats ass about the truth
thats why i and many others call em troofers

I would love to see you make that false accusation to the faces of the families of 9/11 victims who created the Truth movement. Chances are, you'd just shribble up like an anemic raisin because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Who the hell makes such a ridiculous broadbrushing accusation?

What makes him say that? I'm not sure. What makes ME say that is the mountains of physical evidence that are routinely ignored by the twoofers.

For example...

Several pictures on the Internet and elsewhere reveal that the suspected hijackers went through, at the very least, airport security. Mohammed Atta's Voice is heard and was heard by several air traffic controllers.

That is the who

For example, the light poles outside of the Pentagon. There is no way in hell anything other than a plane brought them down due to the spacing. A missile could not have done it since at one point, the poles were nearly (if not over) 100 feet apart on the approach vector.

That is the what.

A cab driven by Lloyd England was hit by one of the poles the morning of 9/11 and it happened just prior to the Pentagon being struck.

That is the when.

Airplanes were hijacked four times on 9/11/01.

One plane was hijacked and flown into the North Tower of the WTC in Manhattan.

One plane was hijacked and flown into the South Tower of the WTC in Manhattan.

Another plane was hijacked and was crashed into a field in Pennsylvania when passengers revolted.

American Airlines Flight 77 was reported by the passengers as being hi-jacked.

That is the how. And the where

I'll leave the "why" up to you. But this show you why, IMHO, twoofers are just maybe a hair or two above pondscum both in intelligence and personality.

Were ATC trained on being able to recognize Atta's voice? If not all you have done is presented an assumption as fact. Your entire (little) list here is just assumptions trying to be passed off as fact. The cab being hit by a downed light pole doesn't prove or disprove anything and the claim of the trajectory is regurgitated ignorance. You have obviously not studied the lay out.

Your pondscum remark just sums up your camp very well. You cannot support your claims so you resort to childishness. Do you have any idea how many qualified and intelligent people, both in the military and on the civilian side, do not believe the bush version? I don't think you care.

 

[CurveLight]

The only common denominator of any conspiracy theory is that it requires a leap of faith to subscribe to it. Once a person has made that leap of faith, they automatically claim to be in the "know", those that dismiss them are "sheep", and those that argue with them are "enemy agents".

All rational thought is suspended. Theories are supported by evidence that is shoddy. Holes in the theory and lack of evidence are attributed to the widening conspiracy. Answers are demanded for items that support their conspiracy. Facts that refute it and simple logic are ignored. Like a religion, certain sacred tenets that are especially powerful are adhered to and brought out repeatedly.

The conspiracy theorists begins to associate with like minded individuals with further reinforces their belief that the "rest of the world is crazy".

Literally, this outline applies to every conspiracy theory.

It's easy to see why it is so seductive to some people. Everyone wants to be "in the know" or the savior who is bringing light to a dark world.

It is amazing how well the bush version apologists fit into that description. Look how often those who question that version are called crazy. Thanks for sharing!

 

[geauxtohell]

It is amazing how well the bush version apologists fit into that description. Look how often those who question that version are called crazy. Thanks for sharing!

I am a Bush version apologist?



I detest Bush. I just don't think the man was involved in the largest criminal conspiracy in the history of our nation, which resulted in the systematic murder of 3000 people, only to get us stuck in some shit hole country with no natural resources.

Again, a tenent of the conspiracy theorist:

"They are in the "know", anyone that doesn't agree with them is a "sheep", anyone that argues with them is an "enemy agent".

You guys' playbook is too predictable.

 

[CurveLight]

It is amazing how well the bush version apologists fit into that description. Look how often those who question that version are called crazy. Thanks for sharing!

I am a Bush version apologist?



I detest Bush. I just don't think the man was involved in the largest criminal conspiracy in the history of our nation, which resulted in the systematic murder of 3000 people, only to get us stuck in some shit hole country with no natural resources.

Again, a tenent of the conspiracy theorist:

"They are in the "know", anyone that doesn't agree with them is a "sheep", anyone that argues with them is an "enemy agent".

You guys' playbook is too predictable.

The phrase "bush's version" isn't a personal reference to bush himself. It's referencing the bush admin's version or the Official Version so your "predictable" comment is fallout from being guilty of what you accuse other of being....."in the know." I don't think for one second Bush was ever involved in any plot regarding 9E.

If you claim the Bush admin's version of 9E is true then you are an apologist of bush's version. Now don't you feel silly for making assumptions?

 

[geauxtohell]

The phrase "bush's version" isn't a personal reference to bush himself. It's referencing the bush admin's version or the Official Version so your "predictable" comment is fallout from being guilty of what you accuse other of being....."in the know." I don't think for one second Bush was ever involved in any plot regarding 9E.

If you claim the Bush admin's version of 9E is true then you are an apologist of bush's version. Now don't you feel silly for making assumptions?

It's safe to say that nothing that you guys present here will ever make me "feel silly".

So now the conspiracy extends beyond the reach of the most powerful man in the free world?

Mercy!

 

[HUGGY]

well, Eots claims there was melted steel

no .eots reports on the claims of multiple eyewitnesses and their reports of molten steel

a very minor difference

A very major difference. Non alloy steel "melts" at about 2400 deg F. any alloy of steel will tolorate much higher temps before failing. Non alloy steel loses about half its strength at around 1400 deg F.

Jet fuel ignites in regular air at about 410 deg F. With a concentration of oxygen it can burn much hotter. That did not occur in the trade centers. The only way to concentrate the oxygen would be to add it to the combustion by chemical proccess, preasurizing the combustion chamber as in tubocharging or fan compression or a direct infusion of pure oxygen. None of those proccesses were available.

I don't care how much you want to believe this or that theory. It was not physically possible for the jet fuel to weaken the steel enough to cause it to fail. Period!

 

[CurveLight]

The phrase "bush's version" isn't a personal reference to bush himself. It's referencing the bush admin's version or the Official Version so your "predictable" comment is fallout from being guilty of what you accuse other of being....."in the know." I don't think for one second Bush was ever involved in any plot regarding 9E.

If you claim the Bush admin's version of 9E is true then you are an apologist of bush's version. Now don't you feel silly for making assumptions?

It's safe to say that nothing that you guys present here will ever make me "feel silly".

So now the conspiracy extends beyond the reach of the most powerful man in the free world?

Mercy!

Ummmm....I didn't say anything that should make you feel silly. I simply pointed out how bad you fucked up when you assumed I said you personally support bush. But thanks for another example of conspiracy theorists like yourself in that even when you make a petty error you are way to arrogant to admit it. So basically, if you are incapable of admitting a mistake as obvious as this there is no way in hell you have the ability to admit it has been a mistake to be a 9E bush apologist. Thank you.

 

[geauxtohell]

The phrase "bush's version" isn't a personal reference to bush himself. It's referencing the bush admin's version or the Official Version so your "predictable" comment is fallout from being guilty of what you accuse other of being....."in the know." I don't think for one second Bush was ever involved in any plot regarding 9E.

If you claim the Bush admin's version of 9E is true then you are an apologist of bush's version. Now don't you feel silly for making assumptions?

It's safe to say that nothing that you guys present here will ever make me "feel silly".

So now the conspiracy extends beyond the reach of the most powerful man in the free world?

Mercy!

Ummmm....I didn't say anything that should make you feel silly. I simply pointed out how bad you fucked up when you assumed I said you personally support bush. But thanks for another example of conspiracy theorists like yourself in that even when you make a petty error you are way to arrogant to admit it. So basically, if you are incapable of admitting a mistake as obvious as this there is no way in hell you have the ability to admit it has been a mistake to be a 9E bush apologist. Thank you.

Non of which brings you any closer to proving your rather far fetched theories.

 

[DiveCon]

Truther; that he denied, among other things. (Communist comes to mind).

dont call em "truthers"
they dont give a rats ass about the truth
thats why i and many others call em troofers

I would love to see you make that false accusation to the faces of the families of 9/11 victims who created the Truth movement. Chances are, you'd just shribble up like an anemic raisin because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Who the hell makes such a ridiculous broadbrushing accusation?

i make it because its the fucking truth, asshole