Zone1 truth about Elohim

[Cougarbear]

Nephilim is an ancient myth from Syria and the Akkadians.

I think Nephilim is a VD that atheists pass around...

 

[Cougarbear]

Did you go to Seton Hall? I was accepted there. Nice school, but I went to school in Charleston.

So, you are a dance major. Nice...

 

[JustAGuy1]

Traditional Christians from actual divinity schools rather than Bible college.

Lie.

 

[kjw47]

When did Jesus come and do so? So, how do you know if Jesus came to your Charles Russell? Did Russell say he did? Did Jesus appear to him or any of the ancient apostles? Again, by what authority did Russell establish your Church? Jesus Christ and His Father came to Joseph Smith and stated through him The Church of Jesus Christ would be restored through a process of revelation and appearances by former apostles and prophets. Specifically, Moroni, John the Baptist, Peter, James and John the apostles to restore the Priesthood orders of Aaron and Melchizedek. So, again, who appeared to Charles Russell? The answer, no one.

Unfulfilled Prophecies of the Jehovah's Witnesses:

Coming of Christ 1874
Resurrection 1878
End of favor to the Gentiles 1881
Armageddon 1914
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Resurrected 1915
Disappearance of Republics 1918
Establishment of Go's Kingdom of Earth 1925
Abraham in Jerusalem to resurrected love ones 1925
End of the World 1975

I'm sure I missed some...

They did make errors, out of error filled trinity translating. And it wasnt the proper time for certain truths to be revealed until it was Gods will.

 

[kjw47]

Maybe you think he's John the Baptist then?
So, here is something I pulled out of the JW's:
"1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel. This passage is quoted below as per KJV (reference here in the right-hand side panel).
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
In essence the reason is that, as explained above, the Bible speaks of only one archangel and it is Jesus that is described as descending with the voice of the archangel."

Here is the problem. This is a misinterpretation of the verse. The three parts of the statement are about one event. Not one personage. The even is the morning of the first resurrection at the end of Armageddon.
1. Christ shall come AGAIN or better known as Christ's 2nd Coming.
2. Michael will be with him introducing Christ as he descends.
3. Gabriel will be blowing his horn assigned by the Father through the Son letting all know on Earth Christ is descending or coming again.

No Gabriel is Gabriel.

 

[Cougarbear]

Nephilim is an ancient myth from Syria and the Akkadians.

You often put disagree with no explanation. My response to this is that you are obviously wrong...So, you might want to explain your disagreement.

 

[Cougarbear]

They did make errors, out of error filled trinity translating. And it wasnt the proper time for certain truths to be revealed until it was Gods will.

You side-stepped the question. Russell was not a prophet, was he? Nope. So, God could not go through Him to restore anything. The Rock of Revelation must go through a prophet and/or an apostle as it states in Matthew chapter 16. The Rock of Revelation gave Peter the knowledge that Jesus is the Son of God.

 

[Cougarbear]

No Gabriel is Gabriel.

"1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel. This passage is quoted below as per KJV (reference here in the right-hand side panel).
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
In essence the reason is that, as explained above, the Bible speaks of only one archangel and it is Jesus that is described as descending with the voice of the archangel."

Here is the problem. This is a misinterpretation of the verse. The three parts of the statement are about one event. Not one personage. The even is the morning of the first resurrection at the end of Armageddon.
1. Christ shall come AGAIN or better known as Christ's 2nd Coming.
2. Michael will be with him introducing Christ as he descends.
3. Gabriel will be blowing his horn assigned by the Father through the Son letting all know on Earth Christ is descending or coming again.

 

[kjw47]

You side-stepped the question. Russell was not a prophet, was he? Nope. So, God could not go through Him to restore anything. The Rock of Revelation must go through a prophet and/or an apostle as it states in Matthew chapter 16. The Rock of Revelation gave Peter the knowledge that Jesus is the Son of God.

Yes Jesus is the son of God with a mortal mother. God does not have a mortal mother. He didnt have to be a Prophet, The apostles weren't prophets, John was but the rest weren't.

 

[kjw47]

"1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel. This passage is quoted below as per KJV (reference here in the right-hand side panel).
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
In essence the reason is that, as explained above, the Bible speaks of only one archangel and it is Jesus that is described as descending with the voice of the archangel."

Here is the problem. This is a misinterpretation of the verse. The three parts of the statement are about one event. Not one personage. The even is the morning of the first resurrection at the end of Armageddon.
1. Christ shall come AGAIN or better known as Christ's 2nd Coming.
2. Michael will be with him introducing Christ as he descends.
3. Gabriel will be blowing his horn assigned by the Father through the Son letting all know on Earth Christ is descending or coming again.

Jesus is Michael. It is his voice at 1Thess 4:16--Gabriel is not called archangel anywhere in the 66 books of Gods written word.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes Jesus is the son of God with a mortal mother. God does not have a mortal mother. He didnt have to be a Prophet, The apostles weren't prophets, John was but the rest weren't.

Who says they weren't prophets? Where do you get this information from? And, yes, Jesus mother was Mary, a mortal. As the Son of God, he is also a God. Again, read John 10:34 when the people asked him if he was god or a god. His answer is "YES!" And so are you he stated clearly. Something Jews should have known as he related his answer to Psalms 82:6 when he stated this as the Lord.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus is Michael. It is his voice at 1Thess 4:16--Gabriel is not called archangel anywhere in the 66 books of Gods written word.

Not only do have a comprehension issue. You have a reading issue. If it was Jesus voice then he would have said, "or the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, AS the voice of the archangel... Think of it as "Ladies and Gentlemen, here is the President of the United States. The President comes into the room being announced by the speaker or with the voice of the speaker. Jesus did not announce himself nor play the trump. Your Russell is not a prophet so nothing he says is doctrinally correct.

 

[kjw47]

Who says they weren't prophets? Where do you get this information from? And, yes, Jesus mother was Mary, a mortal. As the Son of God, he is also a God. Again, read John 10:34 when the people asked him if he was god or a god. His answer is "YES!" And so are you he stated clearly. Something Jews should have known as he related his answer to Psalms 82:6 when he stated this as the Lord.

Jesus doesnt say he is God at John 10:34--Why are twisting it? Small g god is not calling that one a God. it means has godlike qualities. In mortals those godlike qualities are the ability to love and reason.

 

[kjw47]

Not only do have a comprehension issue. You have a reading issue. If it was Jesus voice then he would have said, "or the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, AS the voice of the archangel... Think of it as "Ladies and Gentlemen, here is the President of the United States. The President comes into the room being announced by the speaker or with the voice of the speaker. Jesus did not announce himself nor play the trump. Your Russell is not a prophet so nothing he says is doctrinally correct.

Then you must believe Jesus borrows Michaels voice, its the only other possibility. Michael is Jesus. It is Michael who is standing up for Gods chosen in the last days-Daniel 12:1.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus doesnt say he is God at John 10:34--Why are twisting it? Small g god is not calling that one a God. it means has godlike qualities. In mortals those godlike qualities are the ability to love and reason.

Yes he does! You can't read or comprehend a thing. He turned the question around on the religious leaders telling them he already taught them that they are gods in embryo. That means he also is a god as well. Duh!!! Small "g" and that in Psalms he said god and children of Heavenly Father as well. God's in embryo just learning. He is one of them although he was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Moses, Jehovah. But, not the Father. It's funny you trying to define God.

 

[Cougarbear]

Then you must believe Jesus borrows Michaels voice, its the only other possibility. Michael is Jesus. It is Michael who is standing up for Gods chosen in the last days-Daniel 12:1.

Comprehension problems again. There were 3 personages at Jesus baptism. Jesus himself, God the Father telling him the He is well pleased in his baptism and the Holy Ghost coming down upon him as a bird would do from on high. Jesus wasn't talking to himself or landing on himself. So, the occurrence will be Jesus coming for a 2nd time. His archangel announcing it from heaven (Michael or Adam's voice) and the Gabriel blowing is trump. Pretty simple to picture.

 

[kjw47]

Yes he does! You can't read or comprehend a thing. He turned the question around on the religious leaders telling them he already taught them that they are gods in embryo. That means he also is a god as well. Duh!!! Small "g" and that in Psalms he said god and children of Heavenly Father as well. God's in embryo just learning. He is one of them although he was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Moses, Jehovah. But, not the Father. It's funny you trying to define God.

Yes Jesus is-a god--not The God.

 

[kjw47]

Comprehension problems again. There were 3 personages at Jesus baptism. Jesus himself, God the Father telling him the He is well pleased in his baptism and the Holy Ghost coming down upon him as a bird would do from on high. Jesus wasn't talking to himself or landing on himself. So, the occurrence will be Jesus coming for a 2nd time. His archangel announcing it from heaven (Michael or Adam's voice) and the Gabriel blowing is trump. Pretty simple to picture.

One of us will find out the hard way. My teachers say the next event is the fall of Babylon the great. Your teachers dont even know what that is. But its like the locking of the ark door to all and it triggers the tribulation.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes Jesus is-a god--not The God.

You are trying to confuse people with trifles. The basic Trinity says the same thing. Father God, the most high God, Son of God, Lord and Savior, Spirit God, the Holy Ghost. We will never be our Father in Heaven. However, we will be able to progress as Jesus is doing and as he is our leader that we should follow. So, the reason Jesus is the Son of God is do distinguish authority from His Father, the most high God, Elohim. In those two verses I attempt to teach with, it's clear Jesus is stating he is Jehovah, the Lord who spoke to the author of Psalms 82:6.

 

[Cougarbear]

One of us will find out the hard way. My teachers say the next event is the fall of Babylon the great. Your teachers dont even know what that is. But its like the locking of the ark door to all and it triggers the tribulation.

Your teachers, false prophets, attempted to date specifically that event and lied. So, it's clear that your teachers don't know a thing about what you are talking about. It will be Babylon that will descend from the North attacking Israel. Before that, America will lose it's power to fight this enemy of Israel. I believe our prophets and apostles are correct that this will happen internally as internal wars will increase that started with the Civil War. We see the factions separating with the leftist and the rightest at each other's throat today. Hillary Clinton just called half the country Nazis and Biden is doing the same thing. Some things should remain in the past rather than opening old wounds like racism. But, that's exactly is what is happening in America. Then, there is the death of science going on as well. Men can get pregnant and the left is preaching mutilation of children attempting to change their sex. Even politicians claiming fetuses don't have heart beats. And, the continuance of ignoring the science and math when it comes to Covid19 and masks and vaccines. Satan is real and is getting the upper-hand of the hearts of people. Evil Pride has taken over. Pride of sticking their thumbs in the eyes of God when it comes to homosexual behavior.
Eventually, Satan and Babylon will fall culminating with the battle of Armageddon.