I Apologize For My Verbal Attacks About Israel

[ChristisKing]

As you can see by the title underneath my name where it says Christ follower and truth seeker, I am not Partasian about anything anymore or loyal to anybody in politics and I only go after the facts. I didn't think that Israel was ever a real help to us because of the fact that they have never fought alongside us in any wars, but that doesn't mean that they haven't helped out our country in other ways.

 

[rosends]

US, Israel train on urban operations

Troopers assigned to Lightning Troop, 3rd Squadron, 2nd Cavalry Regiment, U.S. Army recently completed a training exercise with Soldiers in the Givati Brigade, Israeli Defense Force that took place in Ma'ala, Israel Nov. 3 -- 13, 2016.Exercise Ligh.....

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[The Irish Ram]

As you can see by the title underneath my name where it says Christ follower and truth seeker, I am not Partasian about anything anymore or loyal to anybody in politics and I only go after the facts. I didn't think that Israel was ever a real help to us because of the fact that they have never fought alongside us in any wars, but that doesn't mean that they haven't helped out our country in other ways.

Could it be that Israel didn't help us in WW1 and WW2 because there was no such thing as Israel during WW1 and WW2?

 

[JGalt]

As you can see by the title underneath my name where it says Christ follower and truth seeker, I am not Partasian about anything anymore or loyal to anybody in politics and I only go after the facts. I didn't think that Israel was ever a real help to us because of the fact that they have never fought alongside us in any wars, but that doesn't mean that they haven't helped out our country in other ways.

"The Bible presents Israel as God’s chosen, "treasured possession" (Deuteronomy 7:6-8), loved with an "everlasting love" (Jeremiah 31:3) despite their shortcomings. Scripture commands believers to bless Israel, promising divine blessing for doing so, and to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Genesis 12:3, Psalm 122:6). God’s covenant with them is irrevocable (Romans 11:28-29)

Key Biblical Themes on Loving Israel

• God’s Unwavering Love: God describes His love for Israel as unconditional, often comparing it to a faithful Father or husband, despite periods of rebellion.
• The Abrahamic Covenant: In Genesis 12:3, God promises, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse," which is widely interpreted as a directive to support Israel
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  • A "Chosen" Status: God chose Israel not because of their size, but to keep His oath and display His love.
  • "Apple of His Eye": Israel is considered precious and closely protected by God.
  • Spiritual Connection: Christians are viewed as being "grafted in" to the olive tree of Israel Romans 11:17-24, sharing in their spiritual blessings and thus called to support them.
  • Pray for Peace: Psalm 122:6 urges, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: 'May those who love you be secure'"."
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    I didn't write any of the above, that's why we have AI.

 

[buttercup]

"The Bible presents Israel as God’s chosen, "treasured possession" (Deuteronomy 7:6-8), loved with an "everlasting love" (Jeremiah 31:3) despite their shortcomings. Scripture commands believers to bless Israel, promising divine blessing for doing so, and to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Genesis 12:3, Psalm 122:6). God’s covenant with them is irrevocable (Romans 11:28-29)

Key Biblical Themes on Loving Israel

• God’s Unwavering Love: God describes His love for Israel as unconditional, often comparing it to a faithful Father or husband, despite periods of rebellion.
• The Abrahamic Covenant: In Genesis 12:3, God promises, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse," which is widely interpreted as a directive to support Israel
  .
  • A "Chosen" Status: God chose Israel not because of their size, but to keep His oath and display His love.
  • "Apple of His Eye": Israel is considered precious and closely protected by God.
  • Spiritual Connection: Christians are viewed as being "grafted in" to the olive tree of Israel Romans 11:17-24, sharing in their spiritual blessings and thus called to support them.
  • Pray for Peace: Psalm 122:6 urges, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: 'May those who love you be secure'"."
  • 
    I didn't write any of the above, that's why we have AI.

There's a difference between Israel in a spiritual / biblical sense, and the physical, modern nation state of Israel. The Scofield-inspired view that you are espousing is not the traditional view, in fact it is fairly recent, relatively speaking.


Romans 9:6-8
It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 3:16
Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.


Galatians 3:29
And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

 

[ChristisKing]

A lot of this stuff is way beyond my comprehension level due to me being special needs, but also kudos to Trump for stopping Iran from getting ahold of the nukes.

 

[The Irish Ram]

There's a difference between Israel in a spiritual / biblical sense, and the physical, modern nation state of Israel

But, butter, God doesn't differentiate. He doesn't make the distinction between Jew and Zionists, or a Jew living in Israel and a Jew living in New York. He doesn't tell us to weigh Israel in the balance to see if they are worthy of our blessings. He doesn't tell us to gather DNA before we bless, so we will know who not to bless. He knows every one of Abraham's descendants. We don't.
Christ is coming down here to the modern State of Israel to fight with them, not against them. Jesus is going to set His kingdom up in modern day Jerusalem among them all. So, let's do what our Father said to do and pray for peace in Jerusalem for Christ's sake. Make it easy for God to bless us twice. Once for Israel, and once for His Son.

 

[buttercup]

But, butter, God doesn't differentiate. He doesn't make the distinction between Jew and Zionists, or a Jew living in Israel and a Jew living in New York. He doesn't tell us to weigh Israel in the balance to see if they are worthy of our blessings. He doesn't tell us to gather DNA before we bless, so we will know who not to bless. He knows every one of Abraham's descendants. We don't.
Christ is coming down here to the modern State of Israel to fight with them, not against them. Jesus is going to set His kingdom up in Jerusalem among them all. So, let's do what He said to do and pray for peace in Jerusalem for Christ's sake. Make it easy for God to bless us twice. Once for Israel, and once for His Son.

To be clear, I wasn't talking about Jews vs Zionists. I was talking about the true meaning of Israel from a scriptural / spiritual standpoint. I respectfully disagree that it means the modern nation state called Israel. As I mentioned to JGalt, the Scofield view is not the traditional view, and there are so many problems with it. But this is a big, heavy topic....and it's not something that I can convince you or anyone of, in a couple short paragraphs. So for now, pardon the cliche but we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Hafar1014]

As you can see by the title underneath my name where it says Christ follower and truth seeker, I am not Partasian about anything anymore or loyal to anybody in politics and I only go after the facts. I didn't think that Israel was ever a real help to us because of the fact that they have never fought alongside us in any wars, but that doesn't mean that they haven't helped out our country in other ways.

If it wasnt for Israel the USSR would have taken over the Middle East and the worlds oil supply. Israel has been our best ally fighting the war on terror. NATO has been useless.

 

[USAF 2023]

As you can see by the title underneath my name where it says Christ follower and truth seeker, I am not Partasian about anything anymore or loyal to anybody in politics and I only go after the facts. I didn't think that Israel was ever a real help to us because of the fact that they have never fought alongside us in any wars, but that doesn't mean that they haven't helped out our country in other ways.

Can you HONESTLY see them going into an Arab/ Muslim Country??? Talk about having a target on your back !

 

[the watcher]

This is good thinking. The quality and quantity of Israel ass kissing has been substandard recently.

 

[USAF 2023]

Hafar1014 Hafar1014

If it wasnt for Israel the USSR would have taken over the Middle East and the world’s oil supply. Israel has been our best ally fighting the war on terror. NATO has been useless.

He is referring to Israel literally going in. They weren’t involved in the Persian Gulf War but got attacked anyway Bush asked them NOT to retaliate

 

[ChristisKing]

Can you HONESTLY see them going into an Arab/ Muslim Country??? Talk about having a target on your back !

Umm no not really.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It's alright to disagree and present various opinions or beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to be silent on the issues due to differing views.
We know Christ won't be returning to Ancient Israel or to ancient Jews. He is coming to prevent the modern Jews in Israel from being wiped off the map. And we are given the exact location of where He is going to descend. Locate the Mt. of Olives, and that is where He will be returning. Jesus Christ is a Jew. He will fight for the Jews, and He will live forever among the Jews. Heaven itself is going to come to rest on Israel, and God will live among men.

Rev.21:3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them; and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them and be their God.

Ezekiel 43:7 He said to me, “Son of man, this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet, where I will dwell among the sons of Israel forever.

 

[JGalt]

There's a difference between Israel in a spiritual / biblical sense, and the physical, modern nation state of Israel. The Scofield-inspired view that you are espousing is not the traditional view, in fact it is fairly recent, relatively speaking.


Romans 9:6-8
It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 3:16
Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.


Galatians 3:29
And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

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