Trump's third term

[0311]

The 22nd actually limits the time to 10 years, so a third term would put him past the limit and be unconstitutional.

No it does not. The President Term Limit is two terms. Two terms, totally 8-Years.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No it does not. The President Term Limit is two terms. Two terms, totally 8-Years.

A president can have almost 10 years, if they complete the more-than-half completed term of the previous president, and then elected twice.
A president cannot have 2 terms and then two years.

 

[0311]

The 22nd actually limits the time to 10 years, so a third term would put him past the limit and be unconstitutional.

Section 1​

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

There is no mention of a 10-Year.

 

[Zincwarrior]

With his current polling numbers have him underwater. He can run, but the 22nd. Amendment will prevent him from serving. Just think if President Obama had pulled this kind of crap. ReNaziKlans would howling the moon and demanding his arrest.

But who is going to arrest him? Will states allow him on the ballot? What if they do and SCOTUS stalls until after the election and he wins the election? Will this be an elector fight?

 

[braalian]

A president can have almost 10 years, if they complete the more-than-half completed term of the previous president, and then elected twice.
A president cannot have 2 terms and then two years.

In any event, this doesn’t apply to Trump.

He will have had his full two terms once this current one is ended.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In any event, this doesn’t apply to Trump.
He will have had his full two terms once this current one is ended.

Correct. I was merely pointing out that, constitutionally, a person can be President for almost 10 years.

 

[konradv]

Section 1​

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

There is no mention of a 10-Year.

Two terms plus two years of someone else’s term equals 10 years. You’re either being sanctimoniously literal or mathematically ignorant, IMO.

 

[konradv]

The 22nd doesn't impose a 10 year office occupation limit.

It only define when how the count is used for "electing" to office.

Two terms plus two years of someone else’s equals ten.

 

[braalian]

Section 1​

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

There is no mention of a 10-Year.

Technically, presidents who were elevated VPs could have 10 years total as president under the right circumstances.

Truman, Johnson and Ford spring to mind, though I believe Johnson and Ford never got a second full term. Not sure about Truman.

Again, none of this applies to Trump as he is obviously not an elevated VP

 

[WorldWatcher]

Two terms plus two years of someone else’s equals ten.

There is an assumption that some are making that "Elected" to office is that same as "occupying" the office not the case.

WW

 

[Winston]

Hey, Mr. Educated--Read the first sentence of the link. Do you see where it says VICE PRESIDENT? Yeah, now go back and read the portion of the thread that you responded to--AyeCantSeeYou's post about "He can serve as VP." that you claimed, "No he can't." News Flash--Yes he can serve as VP.

Your link was just stupid. First, former Scalia law clerk is the author. Go figure. But how did the article say someone that had served two terms as president could be VP? By fabricating a completely imaginary SCOTUS ruling. One where Trump could be VP, but could not serve as presidential successor for more than two years. Then, the article proceeds to argue how their imaginary court ruling was wrong, and yes, Trump could secede a president and serve more than two years. It really was rather comical.

 

[task0778]

Does each state have the authority to determine who can be on their ballot? Do they have the authority to say Trump isn't eligible to be president under the 12th Amendment and therefore cannot run for VP in 2028? It would be challenged in court either way, and the delay could really hurt the chances for the GOP if they lost, which I think they would. I think it's more likely he doesn't run but endorses his preferred candidate and vigorously campaigns for him/her.

 

[Concerned American]

Does each state have the authority to determine who can be on their ballot? Do they have the authority to say Trump isn't eligible to be president under the 12th Amendment and therefore cannot run for VP in 2028? It would be challenged in court either way, and the delay could really hurt the chances for the GOP if they lost, which I think they would. I think it's more likely he doesn't run but endorses his preferred candidate and vigorously campaigns for him/her.

Trump is stirring the pot for the democrats. As long as they are focused on BS like that, they are not going to be obstructing the real work of rooting out waste and corruption.

 

[Winston]

Wrong again, he could assume the office, he just can't be elected to it.

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STOP. Words have meanings.

Definition of ASSUME

to take to or upon oneself : undertake; to place oneself in; seize, usurp… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I mean the entire definition, it is worth reading. "Seize, usurp", that one jump out at you? Yes, he can seize the office. Would be surprised if he didn't. That is when the Constitutional crisis comes.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Does each state have the authority to determine who can be on their ballot?

Eligibility to run for office and eligibility to take office are separate issues.

 

[konradv]

There is an assumption that some are making that "Elected" to office is that same as "occupying" the office not the case.

That’s a sign that more should be invested in education.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

LOL. I just love to see the left get their panties in a wad every time Trump says something. Why do they care? The left claim Trump isn't even going to make it to 2028 so, what difference does it make to them?

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Even CNN knows that it's not "bigly"





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[Independent thinker]

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Even CNN knows that it's not "bigly"





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With all the things going on in the world which need addressing, this is the best the left have got. I can't decide which is most important to the world, "Bigly", Trump eating steaks well done with ketchup, or that he drives his golf cart on the green. Decisions, decisions.

 

[OKTexas]

I don't think that matters. They were clearly spelling out that a president could only serve two terms, and splitting hairs over the word "elected" isn't going to make a difference. If they intended that, "you can only assume office of the president twice by being 'elected', but you can be president as many times as you want through other means", they would have said so.

If that were the case, other people woul ld have tried it already.

The wording of a law matters, especially the supreme law of the land. You could argue they didn't foresee the future possibilities, but not that the law means something other than what it says.

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[M14 Shooter]

The wording of a law matters, especially the supreme law of the land. You could argue they didn't foresee the future possibilities, but not that the law means something other than what it says..

The law says:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.