Trump's tariffs leading to welfare farming

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The chickens are coming home to roost across the heartland of America. As harvest season approaches, our farmers, many of them Trump voters, are looking at a nonexistent market for their crops, especially corn and soybeans as a result of Trump's self imposed trade war.
There is moneÿ built into the budget bill to provide assistance (welfare) to farmers to compensate for the lost revenue from the crops they can't sell so that may save some from bankruptcy. Still, here we go with another case of Trump's rhetoric about "making America Great Again" not matching the reality of the results of his incompetent policies.

Tariffs are hurting farmers

Brown said one issue that rounds out all the problems farmers are facing: tariffs.

“I think the tariffs are the ice cream on the cake of a perfect storm,” said Brown. “When you try and sell a product, okay, U.S. soybeans leaving New Orleans without the tariff to China are cheaper than Brazilian soybeans, at the current market. But when you put the tariff on top of them, Brazilian beans are cheaper.”

What can be done to help farmers?

“In the short term, they have no choice but to mail us a check,” said Brown. “I don’t know a farmer that likes the check program. Nobody wants to take the taxpayer dollars, but nobody wants to go broke, nobody wants to lose everything. Long term, we have to have options, markets, and places to sell our product.”



U.S. producers of corn and soybeans have sent dire warnings as prices for their crops have crashed in recent years while President Donald Trump’s trade war whipsaws farmers.

On Thursday, the National Corn Growers Association raised alarms about “the economic crisis hitting rural America, as commodity prices drop at a time when input costs remain at near-record highs.”

Corn prices have plunged more than 50% from their 2022 peak, while production costs are down just 3% in that span, translating to a loss of 85 cents per bushel, the NCGA said, adding that the outlook for next year is worse with even lower prices and higher costs.

The NCGA called on Congress and the Trump administration to boost demand, including via higher blends of ethanol and increased foreign market access.

A week before that, the American Soybean Association sent a letter to Trump, warning that “U.S. soybean farmers are standing at a trade and financial precipice.”


 
Tariffs are bring in about $500b a year. Period. Full stop.

Crop Prices are returning to historic norms, we want lower grocery prices don't we?


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The chickens are coming home to roost across the heartland of America. As harvest season approaches, our farmers, many of them Trump voters, are looking at a nonexistent market for their crops, especially corn and soybeans as a result of Trump's self imposed trade war.
There is moneÿ built into the budget bill to provide assistance (welfare) to farmers to compensate for the lost revenue from the crops they can't sell so that may save some from bankruptcy. Still, here we go with another case of Trump's rhetoric about "making America Great Again" not matching the reality of the results of his incompetent policies.

Tariffs are hurting farmers

Brown said one issue that rounds out all the problems farmers are facing: tariffs.

“I think the tariffs are the ice cream on the cake of a perfect storm,” said Brown. “When you try and sell a product, okay, U.S. soybeans leaving New Orleans without the tariff to China are cheaper than Brazilian soybeans, at the current market. But when you put the tariff on top of them, Brazilian beans are cheaper.”

What can be done to help farmers?

“In the short term, they have no choice but to mail us a check,” said Brown. “I don’t know a farmer that likes the check program. Nobody wants to take the taxpayer dollars, but nobody wants to go broke, nobody wants to lose everything. Long term, we have to have options, markets, and places to sell our product.”



U.S. producers of corn and soybeans have sent dire warnings as prices for their crops have crashed in recent years while President Donald Trump’s trade war whipsaws farmers.

On Thursday, the National Corn Growers Association raised alarms about “the economic crisis hitting rural America, as commodity prices drop at a time when input costs remain at near-record highs.”

Corn prices have plunged more than 50% from their 2022 peak, while production costs are down just 3% in that span, translating to a loss of 85 cents per bushel, the NCGA said, adding that the outlook for next year is worse with even lower prices and higher costs.

The NCGA called on Congress and the Trump administration to boost demand, including via higher blends of ethanol and increased foreign market access.

A week before that, the American Soybean Association sent a letter to Trump, warning that “U.S. soybean farmers are standing at a trade and financial precipice.”






Hey stupid, the only complaint in your link about tariffs is the ones farmers pay other countries.

Trump doesn't set the tariff rate in other countries, moron.


THREAD FAIL!


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Trump doesn't set those for other countries.

Next?
Can you really be that stupid? Trump slaps on a tariff, the receiving country retaliates with a tariff. I mean we have been down this road before, in Trump's first administration. Soybean farmers got hit especially hard. And it is not just tariffs. China started buying soybeans from Brazil.
 
"They" had tariffs on the US before this recent "retaliatory tariffs" by Trump. :rolleyes:

Ignorance on your part or intentional dis-information (lie) ?
Look you ******* dumbass. There were virtually no tariffs on soybeans exported to China. Hell, China purchased up to a third of US production. Then Trump had to start his shit,

According to the ASA, the “combination of 20% retaliatory tariffs as well as VAT and MFN [Most Favored Nation] taxes have pushed China’s overall duty rate on US soybeans to 34% in 2025,” making US soybeans “prohibitively more expensive” than their South American counterparts.
China has already contracted with Brazil to replace American soybeans, why the hell do you think the market price of soybeans has plummeted? And like I said, we have been down this road before.


How stupid is it? Seriously, tariffs are a tax increase, Americans pay those tariffs. And now, due to complete ignorance of an administration ran by a bunch of flippin clowns, we are probably going to see billions of dollars of aid for US farmers, another cost to the American taxpayer. It is a lose/lose proposition. Talk about ignorance.
 
The chickens are coming home to roost across the heartland of America. As harvest season approaches, our farmers, many of them Trump voters, are looking at a nonexistent market for their crops, especially corn and soybeans as a result of Trump's self imposed trade war.
There is moneÿ built into the budget bill to provide assistance (welfare) to farmers to compensate for the lost revenue from the crops they can't sell so that may save some from bankruptcy. Still, here we go with another case of Trump's rhetoric about "making America Great Again" not matching the reality of the results of his incompetent policies.

Tariffs are hurting farmers

Brown said one issue that rounds out all the problems farmers are facing: tariffs.

“I think the tariffs are the ice cream on the cake of a perfect storm,” said Brown. “When you try and sell a product, okay, U.S. soybeans leaving New Orleans without the tariff to China are cheaper than Brazilian soybeans, at the current market. But when you put the tariff on top of them, Brazilian beans are cheaper.”

What can be done to help farmers?

“In the short term, they have no choice but to mail us a check,” said Brown. “I don’t know a farmer that likes the check program. Nobody wants to take the taxpayer dollars, but nobody wants to go broke, nobody wants to lose everything. Long term, we have to have options, markets, and places to sell our product.”



U.S. producers of corn and soybeans have sent dire warnings as prices for their crops have crashed in recent years while President Donald Trump’s trade war whipsaws farmers.

On Thursday, the National Corn Growers Association raised alarms about “the economic crisis hitting rural America, as commodity prices drop at a time when input costs remain at near-record highs.”

Corn prices have plunged more than 50% from their 2022 peak, while production costs are down just 3% in that span, translating to a loss of 85 cents per bushel, the NCGA said, adding that the outlook for next year is worse with even lower prices and higher costs.

The NCGA called on Congress and the Trump administration to boost demand, including via higher blends of ethanol and increased foreign market access.

A week before that, the American Soybean Association sent a letter to Trump, warning that “U.S. soybean farmers are standing at a trade and financial precipice.”



A lot of U.S. Farmers voted for 47. Now, they cannot find people to pick their crops or milk their cows. Stupidity runs deep in the MAGA.
 
Who is writing that check?
There is exactly one (1) answer to that question.
Who writes that check?
There is no one check dumbass.
Importers, Manufacturers, Merchandisers, possibly even government subsidies all eat some of the tariffs before consumers make the decision to buy a foreign or a domestic merchandise.
 
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A lot of U.S. Farmers voted for 47. Now, they cannot find people to pick their crops or milk their cows. Stupidity runs deep in the MAGA.
LOL.. You better stick to subjects you now something about.
 
There is no one check dumbass.
Importers, Manufacturers, Merchandisers, possibly even government subsidies all eat some of the tariffs before consumers make the decision to buy a foreign or a domestic merchandise.
So you don't know who actually writes the check for the tariffs. Where the tariff funds actually come from when they enter the US. All that money that Trump and his MAGA flock are crowing about.

No surprise.

Nothing demonstrates the Dunning-Kruger Effect more accurately than Trumpsters trying to discuss macroeconomics.

And you call OTHERS "dumbass". Too funny.
 
There is no one check dumbass.
Importers, Manufacturers, Merchandisers, possibly even government subsidies all eat some of the tariffs before consumers make the decision to buy a foreign or a domestic merchandise.
The Shoe industry imports 2.14 BILLION pairs of shoes manufactured overseas a year.
57% of those, 1.2 BILLION are manufactured in China.

The shoe industry is able to buy/have manufactured 25 million pairs of shoes a year
in the United States....

The United States does not have the manufacturing capabilities to produce the billions of shoes they sell a year.

Trump has screwed this industry to the wall with all this tariff shenanigans, and killed the shoe manufacturing in the USA too with the tariffs put on the components and materials imported to manufacture the shoes here...
 
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