Trump will announce end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, officials say

[Rawley]

All the whining here does not change what subject to jurisdiction meant.

I believe SCOTUS will not even come close to overturning its meaning.

What gives you such a deep conviction?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

What gives you such a deep conviction?

A great education in the history of the Constitution and SCOTUS.

 

[Rawley]

Where's all your outrage about mutilating people with

Breast implants
Hair plugs
Rhinoplasties
Blephoroplasties
Liposuction
and so on.

Why aren't you so upset about the kids who get drugged up with Ritalin because their parents and teachers find them to be a handful?

Come on, guy, this isn't about your concerns about drugs and mutilations, this is your biases at work. Trannies make you uncomfortable, but that's your hangup.

So you are comfortable with the mutilation of children.

 

[Rawley]

A great education in the history of the Constitution and SCOTUS.

So how do you address the arguments of the two dissents in Wong

 

[ThisIsMe]

SCOTUS did that in 1898.

OK, so now we have an interpretation that differs from the people who wrote the amendment. The bad thing about interpreting the cotus away from its original meaning is that the original meaning gets lost, and what we have left is a document only means what the current generation wants it to mean.


So, scotus changed its meaning in 1898, scotus can change its meaning again in 2025...

 

[martybegan]

Where's all your outrage about mutilating people with

Breast implants
Hair plugs
Rhinoplasties
Blephoroplasties
Liposuction
and so on.

Why aren't you so upset about the kids who get drugged up with Ritalin because their parents and teachers find them to be a handful?

Come on, guy, this isn't about your concerns about drugs and mutilations, this is your biases at work. Trannies make you uncomfortable, but that's your hangup.

Those are adults, if some adult wants to mutilate themself, go ahead.

Talk about whataboutism.

 

[martybegan]

You are the cop out.

You do not know better than those medical professionals.

Stats kick your ass.

You are a loser, Marty. When did that start? As a young boy?

Defending the drugging and mutilating of children, how ******* pathetic.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

OK, so now we have an interpretation that differs from the people who wrote the amendment. The bad thing about interpreting the cotus away from its original meaning is that the original meaning gets lost, and what we have left is a document only means what the current generation wants it to mean.


So, scotus changed its meaning in 1898, scotus can change its meaning again in 2025...

SCOTUS didn't change it's meaning. It defined it. As I pointed out, there were no illegal aliens at the end of the Civil War. "Not under the jurisdiction of" meant diplomats and their dependents her as representatives of their government or Native Americans at the time. That was all. What we need is an amendment to define citizenship as being defined by the citizenship of either parent, just like it is for foreign births. Problem solved without any change for reinterpretation at a later date. Everyone just wants to take the shortcut, not knowing that the road is full of potholes that can throw you into the ditch in the future.

 

[JoeB131]

Those are adults, if some adult wants to mutilate themself, go ahead.

Talk about whataboutism.

You realize some of those cosmetic surgeries are performed on minors, right. Probably more than Gender Reassignment surgery, which is actually- pretty rare.

You also skipped over the drugging little Timmy with SSRI's to make him more manageable in class.

 

[martybegan]

You realize some of those cosmetic surgeries are performed on minors, right. Probably more than Gender Reassignment surgery, which is actually- pretty rare.

You also skipped over the drugging little Timmy with SSRI's to make him more manageable in class.

To fix something broken physically, not because some quack convinced them they are the wrong sex.

More whataboutism from you.

Deflect all you want, it doesn't matter. More and more people are seeing this bullshit for what it is.

 

[JoeB131]

To fix something broken physically, not because some quack convinced them they are the wrong sex.

Okay, let's look at that one.

What about all these Asian chicks who get blephoroplasties to make their eyes look more western. Are they having something "fixed", or are have they just been convinced by society that rounder eyes are a standard of "beauty".

Plastic Surgery (for Teens)

Lots of images may come to mind when you think of plastic surgery. This special type of surgery involves a person's appearance and ability to function.

kidshealth.org

Most teens don't, of course. But some do. Interestingly, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) reports a difference in the reasons teens give for having plastic surgery and the reasons adults do: Teens view plastic surgery as a way to fit in and look acceptable to friends and peers. Adults, on the other hand, frequently see plastic surgery as a way to stand out from the crowd.

According to the ASPS, more than 200,000 people 19 years and younger had either major or minor plastic surgical procedures in 2013.

Some people turn to plastic surgery to correct a physical defect or to alter a part of the body that makes them feel uncomfortable. For example, guys with a condition called gynecomastia (excess breast tissue) that doesn't go away with time or weight loss may opt for reduction surgery. A girl or guy with a birthmark may turn to laser treatment to lessen its appearance.

 

[martybegan]

Okay, let's look at that one.

What about all these Asian chicks who get blephoroplasties to make their eyes look more western. Are they having something "fixed", or are have they just been convinced by society that rounder eyes are a standard of "beauty".

Plastic Surgery (for Teens)

Lots of images may come to mind when you think of plastic surgery. This special type of surgery involves a person's appearance and ability to function.

kidshealth.org

Most teens don't, of course. But some do. Interestingly, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) reports a difference in the reasons teens give for having plastic surgery and the reasons adults do: Teens view plastic surgery as a way to fit in and look acceptable to friends and peers. Adults, on the other hand, frequently see plastic surgery as a way to stand out from the crowd.

According to the ASPS, more than 200,000 people 19 years and younger had either major or minor plastic surgical procedures in 2013.

Some people turn to plastic surgery to correct a physical defect or to alter a part of the body that makes them feel uncomfortable. For example, guys with a condition called gynecomastia (excess breast tissue) that doesn't go away with time or weight loss may opt for reduction surgery. A girl or guy with a birthmark may turn to laser treatment to lessen its appearance.

Stop trying to mix cosmetic crap with drugs and surgery that can irreversibly sterilize minors.

By your logic female genital mutilation is acceptable because the local "experts" decide it is.

 

[JoeB131]

Stop trying to mix cosmetic crap with drugs and surgery that can irreversibly sterilize minors.

By your logic female genital mutilation is acceptable because the local "experts" decide it is.

Have there been scientific studies showing the benefits of FGM?

Because there have been studies showing the benefits of GAC.

 

[martybegan]

Have there been scientific studies showing the benefits of FGM?

Because there have been studies showing the benefits of GAC.

"Studies"

There have been "studies" that link MMR vaccines to Autism, and plenty that have enabled other bullshit.

Think outside your "I hate everything normal people like" bullshit for once.

I honestly think you don't care if society goes down the shitter after you die because as a sociopathic atheist, all you care about is yourself.

 

[JoeB131]

"Studies"

There have been "studies" that link MMR vaccines to Autism, and plenty that have enabled other bullshit.

Well, not credible ones. The initial one that did has been thoroughly debunked.

Think outside your "I hate everything normal people like" bullshit for once.

I honestly think you don't care if society goes down the shitter after you die because as a sociopathic atheist, all you care about is yourself.

I just don't see how society is going to "go down the shitter" because 0.3% of the population changes gender.

Someone like you said society would go down the shitter if we ended segregation

That it would go down the shitter if we let women into the workplace.

That it would go down the shitter if they allowed gay marriage.

I guess if we do let transgenders live their lives, and God doesn't smite us, the Funditards might start rethinking their lives... but that's on them.

 

[martybegan]

Well, not credible ones. The initial one that did has been thoroughly debunked.



I just don't see how society is going to "go down the shitter" because 0.3% of the population changes gender.

Someone like you said society would go down the shitter if we ended segregation

That it would go down the shitter if we let women into the workplace.

That it would go down the shitter if they allowed gay marriage.

I guess if we do let transgenders live their lives, and God doesn't smite us, the Funditards might start rethinking their lives... but that's on them.

That's the problem with progressives, they don't know how to draw the line.

It's not about adults living lives, it's about spreading it to kids you ******* psychopath, and forcing everyone else to play along with those adults.

 

[ThisIsMe]

SCOTUS didn't change it's meaning. It defined it. As I pointed out, there were no illegal aliens at the end of the Civil War. "Not under the jurisdiction of" meant diplomats and their dependents her as representatives of their government or Native Americans at the time. That was all. What we need is an amendment to define citizenship as being defined by the citizenship of either parent, just like it is for foreign births. Problem solved without any change for reinterpretation at a later date. Everyone just wants to take the shortcut, not knowing that the road is full of potholes that can throw you into the ditch in the future.

Why did it need defining? The people who wrote it defined it for us already

Not under the jurisdiction of" meant diplomats and their dependents her as representatives of their government or Native Americans at the time...

That's not what they said. Did you read the debates from the link I posted? They said "jurisdiction" meant not owing aligience to any other country.

still, all that the scotus decision did was open the door for future courts to re-define it.

I think this is a faulty process because it means our laws and our cotus can change over time.

 

[JoeB131]

That's not what they said. Did you read the debates from the link I posted? They said "jurisdiction" meant not owing aligience to any other country.

still, all that the scotus decision did was open the door for future courts to re-define it.

I think this is a faulty process because it means our laws and our cotus can change over time.

Guy, what they said in the debates doesn't matter.

Just what they put on the page.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

JoeB owns and pwns Marty.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why did it need defining? The people who wrote it defined it for us already




That's not what they said. Did you read the debates from the link I posted? They said "jurisdiction" meant not owing aligience to any other country.

still, all that the scotus decision did was open the door for future courts to re-define it.

I think this is a faulty process because it means our laws and our cotus can change over time.

The definition is not in the amendment text. People who came her voluntarily are not owing allegiance to another country. That is an assumption that was made that has no basis in fact.

Why don't you want to put it in writing so that future Presidents cannot sign an EO making it legal again? Why do you intend to do a half-ass job instead of doing the right thing?