Trump will announce end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, officials say

[cnm]

What species does this organism belong to?

Homo Sapiens Sapiens I assume.

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[WorldWatcher]

And my items have a better chance of passing than the above ones do.

On a State by State basis, more lean right than left and more support my items than yours.

They aren’t “my items”, just examples.

But I understood what you meant.

WW

 

[Winston]

I have to say, I'm okay with this. Who does this harm?

All of us.

It will erode our demographic advantage over rival powers.

Without immigration, both legal and illegal, this nation would be experiencing negative population growth. Where did Trump go to college?

U.S. Demographic Projections: With and Without Immigration — Penn Wharton Budget Model

U.S. population growth is projected to decline, and the population will become much older over time. Preventing these outcomes will require faster immigration by several multiples of its current rate.

budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu

• Recent declines in the total fertility rate have pushed it below the population replacement level of 2.1 percent per woman. The Penn Wharton Budget Model (PWBM) microsimulation projects the TFR to remain below this level during the next few decades.
• Mortality projections suggest improvements in longevity by all groups. College educated individuals enjoy the lowest mortality rates, an advantage that will persist over time.
• Persistently low fertility will make the balance of births minus deaths negative. A positive, albeit declining, population growth rate will be sustained, however, because of sustained positive net immigration.
• The shift of baby-boomer workers into retirement portends a decline in the worker-to-retiree ratio from 3.0 today to 2.0 by 2075. A faster annual immigration rate, equal to about 3.5 times the current rate, would be required to restore the ratio over the long term.

Did you catch that last bullet point? We need more immigration, not less.

Endanger our already precarious internal assimilation and destabilize the population.

Now I know, some of you are going to claim that the "Mexicans" or the Hispanics, or the brown people, they don't assimilate. But they do just as well as any previous ethnic group. Where I live, schools and churches only started using English after the Civil War, prior to that, it was German. Matter of fact, the first person in my family to come here spoke German and Cherokee, not a lick of English.

Finally, this is an unneeded distraction. yes distraction. We must build an immigration system that will compete with our adversaries and guarantee continued American prosperity, that ain't this.

 

[cnm]

Without immigration, both legal and illegal, this nation would be experiencing negative population growth.

Please.

Citizen.

This is not the place for objective reality.

 

[Winston]

The crux will be the definition of people under the jurisdiction of the US, and if people here illegally count as that.

Absolutely correct, “subject to the jurisdiction”. No birthright citizenship, not subject to US jurisdiction.

 

[the watcher]

I don't think the law needs to be changed to do this, although if it were to be pursued it would end up in the SCOTUS. I believe that if we stopped this abuse of our constitution right now that we could absorb most of what we have now, but it has to stop if we are to remain a viable country. There comes a point when the bilge pumps can't keep up with the leaking hul and we have past this point, and further pumping won't help.

 

[martybegan]

Homo Sapiens Sapiens I assume.

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Well that's a start, so it's a human being then.

 

[martybegan]

Absolutely correct, “subject to the jurisdiction”. No birthright citizenship, not subject to US jurisdiction.

I'm not sure how far that can be taken, but we are about to find out.

 

[Oddball]

WASHINGTON –Incoming President Donald Trump will announce the end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants in an Executive Order on his first day of office, incoming White House officials said.

The federal government will no longer recognize the immediate citizenship of children of illegal immigrants born in the US “on a prospectivebasis,” the incoming official said on a call Monday morning.

Trump had discussed ending birthright citizenship on the campaign trail, but the action could raise legal questions, as the 14th amendment states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Now before you all start, I quit caring about "legal" a while ago. We just need to get the needful done.

The Democrats don't care about laws, why should we?

Indeed, pulling a page out of the dem playbook of "it takes two years to overturn anything, I say why not....Go for it!

Who is leaking this shit?

 

[Oddball]

Is Trump going to change the Constitution?

Seems that you quit on the constitution your fuckup party loves to carry around.

"Living constitution" bitches!

 

[cnm]

Absolutely correct, “subject to the jurisdiction”. No birthright citizenship, not subject to US jurisdiction.

In the country, subject to US law = jurisdiction.

 

[Winston]

Are people in this country say from Greece, not subject to our laws?

The Greek ambassador is not, and so his kid's, if born here, are not citizens.

 

[Moonglow]

WASHINGTON –Incoming President Donald Trump will announce the end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants in an Executive Order on his first day of office, incoming White House officials said.

The federal government will no longer recognize the immediate citizenship of children of illegal immigrants born in the US “on a prospectivebasis,” the incoming official said on a call Monday morning.

Trump had discussed ending birthright citizenship on the campaign trail, but the action could raise legal questions, as the 14th amendment states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Now before you all start, I quit caring about "legal" a while ago. We just need to get the needful done.

The Democrats don't care about laws, why should we?

Indeed, pulling a page out of the dem playbook of "it takes two years to overturn anything, I say why not....Go for it!

lawsuits will follow

 

[Moonglow]

The Greek ambassador is not, and so his kid's, if born here, are not citizens.

The Greek Consulate is considered Greek soil.

 

[Winston]

In the country, subject to US law - jurisdiction.

What part of diplomatic immunity do you not understand?

 

[Winston]

The Greek Consulate is considered Greek soil.

Since when do they deliver babies at the consulate?

 

[Moonglow]

Since when do they deliver babies at the consulate?

In a chance they miss the bus.

 

[Winston]

Is Trump going to change the Constitution?

No, just ignore it and wait for the SCOTUS to back him up.

 

[Winston]

How so?

If they get caught speeding, do we have to check Greek laws?

It would take one dumb cop to write a diplomat a speeding ticket. Hell, they are identified by their license plate. They will just tear the ticket up before the cop even rolls off the scene and they want show up in court. They don't have to.

 

[otto105]

It would take one dumb cop to write a diplomat a speeding ticket. Hell, they are identified by their license plate. They will just tear the ticket up before the cop even rolls off the scene and they want show up in court. They don't have to.

Hilarious

And stupid.