Trump to issue Executive Order

[westwall]

Idiot-gram ^^^; variety, childish gibberish.

Pot, meet kettle. Pretty much every post you make is an infantile tantrum.

 

[BULLDOG]

Yeah; he put 40000000 people into SLAVERY like a good little DemoKKKrat should!!!!

Greg

Really? Credible Link?

 

[rightnow909]

Same 'ol spew. Nothing new.

don't know what spew exactly means but that happens to be a FACT

that Biden ADMITTED to biggest (most vast) voter fraud conspiracy

dims promptly stick head in sand screaming No, it aint so.. No it aint so..

 

[Stryder50]

Amendment XIV​

Section 1.​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The key stumble block here is the interpretation of the clause:
"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,"

We can start with a few excerpts:
...
... At the end of the Civil War, the Republican Party was in control of the 39th Congress, which started its first session in December 1865, at a time when the former Confederate states had formed new, white-dominated governments that restricted the rights of former slaves. In response to those discriminatory laws (generally referred to as “Black Codes”), Congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which declared that all persons born or naturalized in the United States were citizens of the United States and the state in which they lived, thereby affirming a rule of citizenship by birth that did not depend on race. The only two textual exceptions to this rule of birthright citizenship were for American-born persons “subject to any foreign power” and for “Indians not taxed.” ...
...
The Fourteenth Amendment as drafted by the Joint Committee on Reconstruction in the spring of 1866 did not explicitly deal with citizenship. The Senate added what is now the first sentence, which grants both national and state citizenship in language quite similar to that of the Civil Rights statute, and the House agreed to the amendment. The basic principle of a federal rule of race-blind citizenship based on birth (and naturalization) was not in much dispute, although there was some debate about the restriction of the grant of citizenship to persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
...
... And how should the first sentence’s restriction to persons “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States be understood? When adopted, that clause, which was drafted against the backdrop of the Civil Rights Act, was clearly understood to withhold birthright citizenship from the American-born children of foreign diplomats present in this country, because under international law diplomats and their families were largely immune from the legal control and the courts of their host country. The limiting clause also was understood not to grant birthright citizenship to various members of Indian tribes whose political relations with the United States limited its authority over the tribes’ members. The scope of the limiting clause is a matter of political controversy today.
...

Interpretation: The Citizenship Clause | Constitution Center

Interpretations of The Citizenship Clause by constitutional scholars

constitutioncenter.org

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First, we need to consider that this was passed over 150 years ago when "photo ID", passports, and visas weren't very common ... ;-)
Nor was there much tourism from foreign lands to the USA, hence the reference regarding children born to foreign diplomats, when today could include foreign visitors/tourists.

Second, When in the USA LEGALLY as a visitor/guest from a foreign nation, one is here with a passport (ID), a Visa (legal permission), and if intending to be here for a long duration, as say a student or intended immigrant, than one also has documentation from our Immigration Agency such as a 'Green Card'.
Passport and Visa indicate you are still a citizen of another nation, subject to it's jurisdiction though still expected to obey USA laws while here. "Green Card" or similar documentation applies to those seeking extended stays and/or eventual naturalization as a USA citizen, which requires five years of residence to initiate.

Third, if you are here without a Visa (documented permission to be a foreign national in the USA) and proper endorsement on your passport, then you are here ILLEGALLY. You would still be under the "jurisdiction" of the nation you came from (and/or were a citizen of). There is an exception of sorts for short visits coming in from Canada or Mexico, but those require going through Customs at the border and being allowed permission to enter the USA.

BOTTOM LINE is, if not here with proper documentation and permission you are here (in USA) illegally, still subject to jurisdiction of the nation you were born in/came from and neither you nor any children you have born to you while in the USA have a legal right to USA citizenship. Hence the 14th Amendment doesn't grant you that. Citizenship by birth in the USA only applies if your parents were already USA citizens.
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For additional reference;
...
Listed below are the 128 civics questions and answers for the 2020 version of the civics test.
These questions cover important topics about American government and history. The civics
test is an oral test and the USCIS officer will ask you to answer 20 out of the 128 civics test
questions. You must answer at least 12 questions (or 60%) correctly to pass the 2020 version
of the civics test.

On the civics test, some answers may change because of elections or appointments. Visit
uscis.gov/citizenship/testupdates to find any answers that may have changed on the civics
test. You must answer the question with the name of the official serving at the time of your
naturalization interview.

Although USCIS is aware that there may be additional correct answers to the civics questions,
applicants are encouraged to respond to the questions using the answers provided below.
65/20 Special Consideration

If you are 65 years old or older and have been living in the United States as a lawful permanent
resident of the United States for 20 or more years, you may study just the 20 questions that
have been marked with an asterisk ( * ) found at the end of each question. You may also take
the civics test in the language of your choice. The USCIS officer will ask you to answer 10 out of
the 20 civics test questions with an asterisk. You must answer at least 6 out of 10 questions (or
60%) correctly to pass the 2020 version of the civics test.

128 Civics Questions and Answers (2020 version)
...

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/crc/M_1778.pdf

 

[Claudette]

TNHarley
Guess the dummy doesn't know Trump isn't POTUS anymore and can't issue and EO. LOL

 

[surada]

You never read Obama's autobiography

That flyleaf blurb was written by some junior editor, stupid.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

And now leftists are against the govt pleading the fifth.
Its psychologically amazing how a simple letter next to a name will make you guys beliefs change in an instant.

If you think about it, invoking 5th Amendment protection to not be compelled to incriminate oneself, is a right that "the people" have, that the government is not allowed to violate.

The government has no 5th Amendment protection nor should anyone who is conducting government business on behalf of "the people".

 

[TNHarley]

If you think about it, invoking 5th Amendment protection to not be compelled to incriminate oneself, is a right that "the people" have, that the government is not allowed to violate.

The government has no 5th Amendment protection nor should anyone who is conducting government business on behalf of "the people".

I totally agree. The Constitution protects the people, not "the government"
The IRS lady, monica goodling, Alberto Gonzalez etc its all bullshit.

 

[Rye Catcher]

You're just a dumbass who believes everything the idiot box in the living room tells you.

Another ad hominem without any evidence. The genre of Trumpanzees, damn liars and other miscreants.

 

[bravoactual]

The already on going Congressional Committee investigating the events of Jan 6 has issued subpoenas on the rally and subsequent riot when a mob entered the Capitol Building ready to "fight like hell"

Trump to invoke executive privilege in Jan. 6 House probe

Donald Trump intends to assert executive privilege in a congressional investigation into the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol, a move that could prevent the testimony of onetime aides, according to a letter on behalf of the former president. The letter went to at least some witnesses who were...

www.yahoo.com

It might prove to difficult to issue such an order as the Traitor has no such power to do so. Or maybe he is ordering his executive shit paper.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Pot, meet kettle. Pretty much every post you make is an infantile tantrum.

"infantile tantrum"? Your set posts infantile tantrums in gross + [more than 144] threads attacking Democrats, liberals, progressives; President Biden and Vice President Harris with hysterical BIG LIES, and silly conspiracy stories without any probative evidence.

Your hyperbole is an example of your inability to write an expository essay, or any post that isn't a logical fallacy. Your opinions are worthless.

 

[Meister]

I totally agree. The Constitution protects the people, not "the government"

The Constitution does protect The People from the Government.
The government has cancelled that part of the Constitution.
Even now the government wants access to bank transactions of 600.00 and over

 

[westwall]

Another ad hominem without any evidence. The genre of Trumpanzees, damn liars and other miscreants.

"Russia, russia, russia."

Your projection is duly noted.

 

[iceberg]

We heard it a lot when it came to questioning Susan Rice and Obama...

and it was said it was bullshit.

now it's OK.

that's the problem. we apply standards to people, not situations.

 

[Auld Phart]

"infantile tantrum"? Your set posts infantile tantrums in gross + [more than 144] threads attacking Democrats, liberals, progressives; President Biden and Vice President Harris with hysterical BIG LIES, and silly conspiracy stories without any probative evidence.

Your hyperbole is an example of your inability to write an expository essay, or any post that isn't a logical fallacy. Your opinions are worthless.

Your set posts infantile tantrums in gross + [more than 144] threads attacking Democrats, liberals, progressives; President Biden and Vice President Harris with hysterical BIG LIES, and silly conspiracy stories without any probative evidence.

How many did YOUR set post attacking President Trump?

What lies did they tell to impeach him twice?


and now comes, the

 

[beagle9]

The Constitution does protect The People from the Government.
The government has cancelled that part of the Constitution.
Even now the government wants access to bank transactions of 600.00 and over

Gotta fight back administratively or get ready to have your world's turned over worse than they have ever been turned over in the last 6 months or more.

 

[bravoactual]

A former, voted out, no longer in office Traitor has no authority to issue any form Executive Order.

PRESIDENT BIDEN has already stated that he will NOT support any form Executive Protection for the Traitor. Only a sitting PRESIDENT (BIDEN) can issue an Executive Order. The Traitor cannot.

 

[WinterBorn]

Trump has lost his mind.

Talking about issuing an executive order, which he has no power to do.

Releasing a statement saying republicans might not vote in the 2024 election.

And even endorsing Stacy Abrams (a liberal's liberal) for gov. of Georgia because Trump is still mad at Gov Kemp for following the rules instead of doing what Trump wanted.



So much childishness from the former president.

 

[westwall]

Trump has lost his mind.

Talking about issuing an executive order, which he has no power to do.

Releasing a statement saying republicans might not vote in the 2024 election.

And even endorsing Stacy Abrams (a liberal's liberal) for gov. of Georgia because Trump is still mad at Gov Kemp for following the rules instead of doing what Trump wanted.



So much childishness from the former president.

ummmm, it's fake news.

 

[BULLDOG]

ummmm, it's fake news.

Trump Keeps Promoting Democrats In Races Against Republicans Who Speak Out Against Him

Trump invited Stacey Abrams, a former Democratic candidate for governor, to replace Republican Gov. Brian Kemp during a rally in Georgia.

www.buzzfeednews.com