Trump, the "Draft Dodger"

[Deadstick]

First lieutenants died disproportionately in Vietnam.

Some were probably on the wrong end of a fragging.

 

[Deadstick]

The fact is the real heroes in all this are the ones who told the man to stick his Vietnam war up his arse.

 

[sparky]

You guys are proving my point. If your family had resources you could avoid the draft. If not, you probably couldn't. If it were not for Trump's bone spurs it would have been something else. There was no way the scion of a wealthy family in NYC was going to be drafted.

~S~

 

[Captain Caveman]

Quite a funny thread watching folk sticking up for draft dodgers to spite Trump for dodging the draft, lol.

 

[Deadstick]

Quite a funny thread watching folk sticking up for draft dodgers to spite Trump for dodging the draft, lol.

Well just think about this, if we had the same politicians back then as we have now we would have been crawling through the jungles of South East Asia getting our balls blown off, the US says jump they ask how high, they are pathetic.

 

[Deadstick]

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Well that shit is Hollywood, this is reality, if the US had looked at the History of Vietnam they would have known the people resisted all comers including the French Colonialists and the Japs, the difference between them and the US soldiers was they were committed and knew what the objective was the liberation of their Country despite horrific casualties, most Us soldiers didn't want to be there they just wanted to survive their tour.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Well just think about this, if we had the same politicians back then as we have now we would have been crawling through the jungles of South East Asia getting our balls blown off, the US says jump they ask how high, they are pathetic.

If the current generations of now fought in the World wars, the planet would be speaking German. Far too many Lefty, tranny, snowflake, woke faggots about.

 

[Deadstick]

If the current generations of now fought in the World wars, the planet would be speaking German. Far too many Lefty, tranny, snowflake, woke faggots about.

It was the so called lefties who were the first to fight the fascists, first in Spain against Franco and on the streets here against the black shirts, it was the righties who sided with Franco and Mosley and even supported the Nazis before the War, as for tranny woke faggots i have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It was the so called lefties who were the first to fight the fascists, first in Spain against Franco and on the streets here against the black shirts, it was the righties who sided with Franco and Mosley and even supported the Nazis before the War, as for tranny woke faggots i have no idea what you are talking about.

Lefties.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Liberals fought in Spain not the lefty progressive retards we have now.

 

[Deadstick]

Liberals fought in Spain not the lefty progressive retards we have now.

No they didn't, i knew a old Man who fought for the International Brigade, he was a Socialist trade Unionist and cotton mill worker from my Town, others were Communists, not many Liberals.

 

[whitehall]

No idea, I was never in the guard. But over 300,000 served in Iraq. And over half a million went to Afghanistan.

Got it, I guess you just do not like the military for some reason.

I was never in the Guard either but former president Bush was a freaking pilot while lefties who never served call him a "frat boy". Biden used asthma to stay out of the draft but he claimed to be a lifeguard and no municipality would hire a lifeguard with asthma.

 

[sparky]

Well that shit is Hollywood, this is reality

DG's point of classism was echoed by Fogarty DeadOne

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[Mushroom]

Biden used asthma to stay out of the draft but he claimed to be a lifeguard and no municipality would hire a lifeguard with asthma.

He was also a star football player. Once again, something you do not find very often is College level football players with asthma.

 

[Picaro]

Liberals fought in Spain not the lefty progressive retards we have now.

And most learned the Commies were pieces of shit and even more corrupt than the regimes they were 'liberating'.

 

[Picaro]

The thing with asthma is a lot of kids that had it seemed to outgrow it by age 12 or so, about 50% or so, but the military still considered it a no no and rejected those who had it even if they had no symptoms for years. There was no way to predict if the attacks would return or when, or what would trigger them. You get exposed to all kinds of exotic crap in the military. People rejected for having had asthma weren't 'draft dodgers', it is the military that decided to not accept them. The rule is a lot less strict today; if you've had no symptoms since you were 13 you can be accepted.

 

[Jarlaxle]

All the journalists who were writing about Clinton were ALSO draft dodgers, so there was little appetite to exploit that issue.

Seriously, we should re-institute the draft. No deferments. Men and women. Two years service. The biggest stumbling block is the large number of American Yoots who simply would not qualify because of physical conditions, interaction with the Justice System, dependency, and - sorry to say it - mental deficiency.

So, you want a return to slavery. Not just no, but hell fucking no.

I can address two names.
John Wayne beyond normal draft age, he was classified 1H (men over 28 years of age). He was under contract to Republic Films who wouldn't release him to enlist.
Mohammad Ali went to prison as a draft resistor. - I can respect his stance since he was willing to pay the price for his beliefs.

The owner of Republic Films also pulled strings-Wayne WANTED to enlist, the studio head (personal friend of FDR) got him rejected-though it's an open question whether he'd have passed the physical, with his bad shoulder.

No they didn't, i knew a old Man who fought for the International Brigade, he was a Socialist trade Unionist and cotton mill worker from my Town, others were Communists, not many Liberals.

Every one of them should have been executed.

I was never in the Guard either but former president Bush was a freaking pilot while lefties who never served call him a "frat boy". Biden used asthma to stay out of the draft but he claimed to be a lifeguard and no municipality would hire a lifeguard with asthma.

Yes, they would. They likely wouldn't have even ASKED in that era.

He was also a star football player. Once again, something you do not find very often is College level football players with asthma.

Not as unusual as you might think. I know of several professional athletes who would have been medically rejected for military service.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The thing with asthma is a lot of kids that had it seemed to outgrow it by age 12 or so, about 50% or so, but the military still considered it a no no and rejected those who had it even if they had no symptoms for years. There was no way to predict if the attacks would return or when, or what would trigger them. You get exposed to all kinds of exotic crap in the military. People rejected for having had asthma weren't 'draft dodgers', it is the military that decided to not accept them. The rule is a lot less strict today; if you've had no symptoms since you were 13 you can be accepted.

And bone spurs fall into the same catagory.

 

[Mushroom]

Not as unusual as you might think. I know of several professional athletes who would have been medically rejected for military service.

Oh, I'm sure a great many would and that does not surprise me at all. Height-weight standards, criminal background, drug use, lack of education, failure to pass the ASVAB, I'm sure that is the case of a great many. Hell, I had to lie like hell to get back in in 2007 because of chronic knee pain and tinnitus.

But how many that claim to have asthma?

 

[Mushroom]

And bone spurs fall into the same catagory.

The funny thing is, President Biden had multiple deferments. Four student deferments, and two medical ones. One for asthma, the other one for... bone spurs.