trump suggest lowering China tariffs to 80% before first meeting

[Winco]

TDS writ large

 

[Rawley]

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QED

 

[Orangecat]

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[Mashmont]

WHO was it that signed a brand new trade deal with China?

Remarks by President Trump at Signing of the U.S.-China ...​

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National Archives (.gov)
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov › remarks-preside...
Jan 15, 2020 — We sign phase one of the historic trade deal between the United States and China. Together, we are righting the wrongs of the past and delivering a future of we are righting the wrongs of the past and delivering a future of economic justice and security for American workers, farmers, and families.

Today, we take a momentous step — one that has never been taken before with China — toward a future of fair and reciprocal trade, as we sign phase one of the historic trade deal between the United States and China.


BS.

Trump defends trying to blame Biden for poor GDP data ...​

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Apr 30, 2025 — The Independent questions Trump on blaming recent stock market crash on Biden's past presidency. Your support helps us to tell the story.

President Donald Trump defended his attempt to cast blame on his predecessor, former president Joe Biden, after the Labor Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysis found that the American economy shrank by 0.3 percent during the first quarter of this year, marking the first drop in three years as Trump’s tariff policies disrupted businesses and their supply chains.

Earlier in the day, Trump took to Truth Social on Wednesday to blame his predecessor for the dismal numbers, writing that what was transpiring was “Biden’s stock market, not Trump’s.”

I guess you were asleep when Biden redid the Trump deals.

when did most people return to work after the initial COVID shutdowns?

ChatGPT said:​

Most people in the United States and many other countries began returning to work in mid to late 2020, after the initial COVID-19 shutdowns in March and April 2020. However, the timeline varied depending on industry, location, and the severity of local outbreaks. Here's a general breakdown:

• Spring 2020 (March–May): Widespread shutdowns, with many offices and businesses closed or moved to remote work.
• Summer 2020 (June–August): Gradual reopening began in many states and countries, with limited capacity and safety protocols. Some workers, especially in retail, manufacturing, and services, returned.
• Fall 2020–Winter 2021: Reopenings continued, but surges in COVID cases led to periodic reclosures or delays in returning.
• Mid to Late 2021: With vaccine rollouts, a larger number of office workers began returning—though many companies adopted hybrid or remote models.
• 2022 onward: Return-to-office efforts picked up steam, especially in industries like finance and tech, though remote and hybrid work remained more common than pre-pandemic.

The return-to-work timeline depended heavily on region and job type.

Are you kidding? CA and NY under Democrat governors were closed for over a year. That's a huge percentage of the national economy. And then the Alzheimer's patient Biden continued to pay people thousands a to do nothing. Result? Businesses couldn't find workers and had to close early, store shelves were empty, and there was rapid inflation. Leftwing policies are always a disaster.

 

[Mashmont]

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Outstanding graphic, Orangecat.

 

[Winco]

I guess you were asleep when Biden redid the Trump deals.

Are you kidding? CA and NY under Democrat governors were closed for over a year. That's a huge percentage of the national economy. And then the Alzheimer's patient Biden continued to pay people thousands a to do nothing. Result? Businesses couldn't find workers and had to close early, store shelves were empty, and there was rapid inflation. Leftwing policies are always a disaster.

Prove this claim
You can’t just sat it happened

Post the proof.

 

[Mashmont]

Prove this claim
You can’t just sat it happened

Post the proof.

I don't chase my tail finding links for people who don't really want them. You'll google if interested.

 

[Tyrion234]

Do do understand when Biden was paying people during and after COVID to stay home, sit on their ass and smoke pot, those payments increased GDP, don't you. That's why the figure is meaningless.

Paid them $300-$600 extra a week to do so as well….

 

[Winco]

I don't chase my tail finding links for people who don't really want them. You'll google if interested.

So you lied
You got nothing

 

[Mashmont]

So you lied
You got nothing

No, I just don't waste time on trolls who aren't really interested in debate. But again, if you're truly interested, you know how to google.

 

[Winco]

No, I just don't waste time on trolls who aren't really interested in debate. But again, if you're truly interested, you know how to google.

It’s just part of your CULT playbook
Make a wild claim you can’t back up with evidence, call any responder a troll, then state, look it up yourself

Are you kidding? CA and NY under Democrat governors were closed for over a year. That's a huge percentage of the national economy

I can’t look up evidence that doesn’t exist
I was in CA in June 2020, places were open, with outdoor dining

Safeway was open
The Palo Alto mall was open
Outdoor Dining was available everywhere
I was there in June 2020
Don’t lie and say this is fake news.

What exactly are you claiming was closed?

Here’s your discussion
Don’t run away from your challenge.

 

[d0gbreath]

145%, 80%, 10%, it matters not. China is done exporting to the US. At least for the time being. Sometimes round, orange, pumpkin kings need to learn a lesson.

 

[kyzr]

145%, 80%, 10%, it matters not. China is done exporting to the US. At least for the time being. Sometimes round, orange, pumpkin kings need to learn a lesson.

What lesson? That we need to make our own stuff or do without? China loses big in that case.

 

[d0gbreath]

What lesson? That we need to make our own stuff or do without? China loses big in that case.

We don't have the capability to build our own stuff anymore. It's been too long.

 

[Orangecat]

We don't have the capability to build our own stuff anymore. It's been too long.

With defeatist attitudes like yours, who needs foreign adversaries?

 

[d0gbreath]

With defeatist attitudes like yours, who needs foreign adversaries?

You got me?

 

[Tyrion234]

Paid them $300-$600 extra a week to do so as well….

Sure did Winco

 

[hadit]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/09/economy/china-tariff-trump-trade

President Donald Trump on Friday set negotiating terms for his administration’s first discussions with China, which are set to take place in Geneva this weekend.

In a series of posts on Truth Social, Trump appeared to lay out his demands — and concessions — for the meeting between US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer and their Chinese counterparts. Trump said China must import more US goods, and in return, he believes the United States should lower its 145% tariff on most Chinese goods to 80%.

“CHINA SHOULD OPEN UP ITS MARKET TO USA — WOULD BE SO GOOD FOR THEM!!! CLOSED MARKETS DON’T WORK ANYMORE!!!,” Trump posted.

They have no even met in Switzerland yet and trump is caving. Amazing! He screwed the world economy up and then backs down when things begin getting rough. As always, trump is just a blustering coward. He bullies and speaks like he is strong, but we know he is insecure and afraid. He is demonstrating The Art of the Squeal.

The man's a dealmaker and businessman. He knows how to get the other side all worked up, then they (and the foolish usual suspects) get all gooey inside and think he's caving while he walks away with what he had planned on the first place.

 

[Winco]

No, I just don't waste time on trolls who aren't really interested in debate. But again, if you're truly interested, you know how to google.

Why did you run away?

 

[Winco]

Sure did Winco

Proof?

Of course NOT.