Trump stopped from shutting down the Department of Education

[IM2]

Reagan is dead and he didn't end the department. He couldn't. Neither can trump. His executive orders are just words on paper.

 

[IM2]

It would have only been temporarily dismantled anyway. The moment the next Dim gets back in the WH, the effort to balloon government will be back at full steam.

Trump expanded government with DOGE and you don't mind that.

 

[IM2]

So, you are unable to articulate a retort

As I suspected.

That was the perfect retort.

 

[IM2]

Another Slapdown for Trump as Education Dept. Is Saved

President Donald Trump has been forced to walk back his plans to shut down the Department of Education. Trump announced on Thursday that he was signing an order that would “begin eliminating the federal Department of Education once and for all.” He glossed over White House Press Secretary...

www.yahoo.com

President Donald Trump has been forced to walk back his plans to shut down the Department of Education.

Trump announced on Thursday that he was signing an order that would “begin eliminating the federal Department of Education once and for all.”

He glossed over White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt’s earlier remarks that the Education Department would continue to handle student loans and Pell grants as well as other “critical functions,” including enforcing some civil rights laws and programs for students with disabilities.

The U-turn comes amid concern in the administration that Congress would balk at Trump’s plan to shutter the entire department.

Trump said he hoped that, “ultimately,” a bill would go before Congress to shut down the agency altogether.

“The Department of Education will be much smaller than it is today,” White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said ahead of Trump’s announcement. “When it comes to student loans and Pell grants, those will still be run out of the Department of Education. But we don’t need to be spending more than $3 trillion over the course of a few decades on a department that’s clearly failing in its initial intention to educate our students.”

What seems strange to me is that Congress and the Judicial branch seemingly has power over the Executive Branch. Why is that?

Trump is at the head of the Executive Branch, so it stands to reason he should be in control over it. It would be akin to Trump telling Congress what to do in any way with their branch.

Congress should have created the Fourth Branch of government under the Legislative branch instead of the Executive if they wanted to keep control over it.

Of course, you have an army of Federal judges doing the same thing to Trump, trying to tell him what he can and cannot do under the Constitution. But if I recall, the Constitution has nothing to say about an absolute army of unelected bureaucrats basically running the country.

Nothing.

The judicial branch is equal t the executive and can check it. Trump does not have power to issue illegal orders.

 

[jc456]

It would have only been temporarily dismantled anyway. The moment the next Dim gets back in the WH, the effort to balloon government will be back at full steam.

And everyone, pay the fk attention, any demofk stating that they have converted to common sense is playing you!!! FKING PLAYING YOU!!!!

They will never change who they are. EVER

 

[Votto]

No nutter-butter, higher education is meant to educate.

You know - stuff like math, physics, chemistry, biology, history, government, literature.

Crazy concept, I know.

Why is education circling the toilet then?

The entire Federal Cirus has proven to be too dysfunctional and corrupt to govern.

The party is over.

 

[Votto]

The judicial branch is equal t the executive and can check it. Trump does not have power to issue illegal orders.

No matter whether you are on the right or the left, it is apparent to all that the Federal system is a post Constitutional entity whose time has come to return power back to the states.

They have lost all credibility and respect from both sides.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why is education circling the toilet then?

Federal involvement.

 

[Votto]

Federal involvement.

The Education Department has nothing to point to as improving education as all metrics of improvement have been circling the toilit for decades.

And no, no one gives a damn about their newly created DEI pronoun lists.

That is one of their biggest problems.

But hey, they give "free money" to students who cannot afford the insanely high tuition rates these Left-wing universities charge children around the country, so they are allowed to remain.

 

[Woodznutz]

No nutter-butter, higher education is meant to educate.

You know - stuff like math, physics, chemistry, biology, history, government, literature.

Crazy concept, I know.

It's the application of these that is troublesome.

Have you never seen a dried-up paintbrush in a can of dried up brush cleaner. Wasted paintbrush and cleaner.

Lake weed harvesters are engineering marvels, products of higher education, but the DNR's won't allow them to harvest the weeds.

And how about those pythons in the Everglades. How has education helped to eradicate or control them?

Why do we continue to act stupidly if we are so well educated? Could it be that education doesn't address the cause of our problems, our basic nature? If not, why not?

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Education Department has nothing to point to as improving education as all metrics of improvement have been circling the toilit for decades.

Of course not.
The DoEd was created in 1979. When did our education system start to decline?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Of course not.
The DoEd was created in 1979. When did our education system start to decline?

It wasn't really a new department. The functions already existed in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.

Basically it was split off to a cabinet level. What was done didn't change much.

The Department of Education at the federal level traces it's roots to 1867 and Andrew Jackson.

WW

 

[Woodznutz]

Of course not.
The DoEd was created in 1979. When did our education system start to decline?

With the advent of smartphones and social media.

 

[my2¢]

At times Trump's execution of policy seems the likes of this....

 

[whitehall]

Trump will stop the grants and the funding. Face it, federal education has been an abject failure for decades and it will fade away during the Trump administration regardless of the hysterical rants from the left and the efforts of unelected judges.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Trump will stop the grants and the funding.

Good.

Let the parents that voted for him feel the pain. FAFO.

Maybe they will make better decisions on who they vote for in the primaries.

The sad part is it also impact those parents that didn't vote for him, but hell - it's just a little pain right?

WW

 

[M14 Shooter]

With the advent of smartphones and social media.

That's 2010 or so - 15 years ago.
The decline started well before then.

 

[Woodznutz]

That's 2010 or so - 15 years ago.
The decline started well before then.

Then let's try to correlate the decline with significant changes in society. It may well have begun in the 1960's with the sexual revolution.

"Why buy a cow, when you can milk one for free."

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Trump expanded government with DOGE and you don't mind that.

Not one of your brighter claims.

 

[Votto]

Good.

Let the parents that voted for him feel the pain. FAFO.

Maybe they will make better decisions on who they vote for in the primaries.

The sad part is it also impact those parents that didn't vote for him, but hell - it's just a little pain right?

WW

Nothing had a more negative impact than the Federal government and Fauci closing down all the schools during Covid.

Test scores have still not caught up.