Trump stopped from shutting down the Department of Education

[imawhosure]

Not every solution comes at the swipe of a pen on an EO/EA.

It has always been the case that Congress needs to shutter that department entirely. However, the executive should not fund it. That way, It's still a department but not one with the money to do anything. As for student loans and Pell Grants, those can be handled elsewhere while they are done away with. The government has no authority over student loans, or at least they should not have that authority.

The alleged right is getting out of hand with these EO/EA things.

Take the birthright citizen thing. The 14th needs to be amended so that one of the parents of a birth is a citizen of this country or the child does not get to be an anchor baby.

BUT damnit people. Do you really want the Presdient to have the authority to amend and change Amendments to the Constitution? What the hell will you do when the next Marxist Democrat gets elected to that office?

Consequences matter. Do not give Trump authority you would not want a Democrat to have.

Dark is 100% correct people. IF Trump does NOT have the authority, then which ever branch does has to do it, or be voted out of office, if that is what the American people want.

I have little doubt, that if Congress, and the Whitehouse wants the department of Ed gone, the courts can not/would not prevent it, if congress voted to do it. If this is popular with the American people..........then expect it to be a campaign issue in 26.

Dark is also correct that we have to keep checks and balances in place, or when another Leftist gets in.......and it will happen eventually.......they will be able to turn the country back to what it was under Biden, in 15 minutes flat!

 

[Votto]

That's a curious way of putting the admin breaking laws and violating protocols.

Again, the Executive Branch should be run by the President.

 

[80zephyr]

The separation of powers, a core principle of the U.S. government, divides governmental authority into three distinct branches: legislative, executive, and judicial, each with its own powers and responsibilities, to prevent any one branch from becoming too powerful.

It will be delicious when a Democrat is again elected president. I would have judges forbidding him from even tying his shoes.

 

[Votto]

Dark is 100% correct people. IF Trump does NOT have the authority, then which ever branch does has to do it, or be voted out of office, if that is what the American people want.

I have little doubt, that if Congress, and the Whitehouse wants the department of Ed gone, the courts can not/would not prevent it, if congress voted to do it. If this is popular with the American people..........then expect it to be a campaign issue in 26.

Dark is also correct that we have to keep checks and balances in place, or when another Leftist gets in.......and it will happen eventually.......they will be able to turn the country back to what it was under Biden, in 15 minutes flat!

I knew when I heard Trump wanted to do away with it that the other two branches would stop him.

More than likely, he will dismantle most of it but be forced to leave it still functioning, and then when the Dims get into power return the Department to its original size if not make it even bigger as neither branch will make a peep of disapproval over it.

 

[AntonToo]

So, you are unable to articulate a retort

As I suspected.

Ignoramus we don't have a monarchy, we don't have an autocratic regime, we have 3 co-equal branches of government with checks and balances.

We have a legislative body that passes laws, consents and oversees executive.

We have judicial that settles law disputes.

Both of those branches OBVIOUSLY have powers over how Executive goes about it's agenda.


The fact that such elementary basics of our governing need to be explained to you after years and years of political discussion is fucking mindboggling.

 

[Darkwind]

They cry about Elon Musk because no one elected him to do the things he is doing, but then ignore the millions and millions of unelected bureacrats that the Left has no problem with running the lives of the average citizen

At the bare minimum, anytime a new President comes to power he gets a whole new army of unelected bureaucrats to better honor the will of the American people to change course rather than just keep them there for life whether they are good or bad for the country.

What Elon is doing is perfectly legal and legitimate. Most people don't realize that other Presidents have gone through the government in the past and cut spending. They only dislike it because it is Trump doing it.

I am all for cutting jobs that are unnecessary from the Federal Workforce. Just look at what those fucking clowns at the Institute of Peace. They actually think they don't have to answer to the people while taking taxpayer money.

But as I said, stop and think before giving the next Democrat powers that you would not want them to have, because giving power to Trump is doing exactly that.

 

[Darkwind]

I knew when I heard Trump wanted to do away with it that the other two branches would stop him.

More than likely, he will dismantle most of it but be forced to leave it still functioning, and then when the Dims get into power return the Department to its original size if not make it even bigger as neither branch will make a peep of disapproval over it.

Yep. We need to win the Next Midterm, bigly.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why not keep the Department of Education then under the Legislative Branch then?

The Executive Branch executes/enforces the laws created by Congress.
The DoEd executes, or facilitates the execution of, the laws concerning education created by Congress.
Constitution 101.

 

[Darkwind]

Ignoramus we don't have a monarchy, we don't have an autocratic regime, we have 3 co-equal branches of government with checks and balances.

The fact that such elementary basics of our governing need to be explained to you after years and years of political discussion is fucking mindboggling.

So then articulate the check on the power of the Judicial. Go ahead.

 

[Votto]

It will be delicious when a Democrat is again elected president. I would have judges forbidding him from even tying his shoes.

There never are though.

Lawyers are like 99.99999999% all democrats.

Have you ever wondered why when a Republican puts a Supreme Court justice in power you never know how they will rule, often stabbing conservatives in the back, but when a democrat President places a judge you always know their ruling before they rule?

 

[Votto]

So then articulate the check on the power of the Judicial. Go ahead.

I hear the Left wants to pack the courts when a democrat reaches the Executive Branch

And I can't tell you how many articles I have read that Clarence Thomas needs to be impeached.

Outside of that, I have not heard a thing about checks and balances on the Judicial branch.

 

[Darkwind]

Dark is 100% correct people. IF Trump does NOT have the authority, then which ever branch does has to do it, or be voted out of office, if that is what the American people want.

I have little doubt, that if Congress, and the Whitehouse wants the department of Ed gone, the courts can not/would not prevent it, if congress voted to do it. If this is popular with the American people..........then expect it to be a campaign issue in 26.

Dark is also correct that we have to keep checks and balances in place, or when another Leftist gets in.......and it will happen eventually.......they will be able to turn the country back to what it was under Biden, in 15 minutes flat!

Or even worse.

Imagine a Marxist, with their well known hatred of the Military and its veterans, decide to just sign an EO/EA and wipe out the Veteran Affairs Department.

 

[Darkwind]

I hear the Left wants to pack the courts when a democrat reaches the Executive Branch

And I can't tell you how many articles I have read that Clarence Thomas needs to be impeached.

Outside of that, I have not heard a thing about checks and balances on the Judicial branch.

Which reminds Me.

Thomas needs to retire NOW while Trump is in control and can appoint a judge in his likeness.

 

[Woodznutz]

Congress created the Department of Education.
The President can do a lot of things to the DoEd, but he can't actually close the doors.

Can't it be defunded?

 

[Darkwind]

Can't it be defunded?

It can.

 

[Votto]

Which reminds Me.

Thomas needs to retire NOW while Trump is in control and can appoint a judge in his likeness.

And wind up with another Amy Comer Barrett or another John Roberts?

Hell no!!

Clarence needs to tell whitety where they can shove it!!

 

[M14 Shooter]

Can't it be defunded?

It can but that's not what Trump is doing -- all the funding , like student loans, Pell and other education grants, stc - is going over to the Treasury department.

 

[Darkwind]

And wind up with an Amy Comer Barrett?

Hell no!!

And wind up with an Amy Comer Barrett?

Hell no!!

Well, we can always wait until a Marxist is in power and let them nominate someone.

 

[imawhosure]

I knew when I heard Trump wanted to do away with it that the other two branches would stop him.

More than likely, he will dismantle most of it but be forced to leave it still functioning, and then when the Dims get into power return the Department to its original size if not make it even bigger as neither branch will make a peep of disapproval over it.

Votto.........if Trump was 42, and was willing to pull an FDR perpetual Presidency till death, it might be worth looking into, but he is not, and he won't!

I understand everyone's frustration, but we have to stop needing instant gratification. We are moving along nicely, a large chunk of Americans are on our side, and those same Americans DESPISE the Democrats. If someone would have told Americans that around 60 days in we would be where we are at this point, Conservatives would have thrown a party, and Democrats would have made like Biden and created poopy-pants-) Some semblance of patience is now required, because this stuff has to be legally worked out, and if the American people want it, their anger at the Democrats is going to grow, and grow.........which is good for us!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Again, isn't it breaking the separation of powers by the Legislative and Judicial branch telling the Executive Branch how to run their affairs?

Dufus.

The executive branch apply the law, execute the law, the legislative branch make laws, decide what they are, I mean, did you vote? no wonder the country is fucked.