Trump shooting is the price you pay for freedom

[rightwinger]

If you were honest (although you never are) even an assclown like you would admit that he did more than merely carry a long gun.

He never took a shot
That leaves carry

Now, as an ex felon, he s not allowed to carry
That is what he is charged with
Not attempted assassination

 

[BackAgain]

He never took a shot
That leaves carry

Nope. He prepared for the anticipated murder. Failure to Abe the time to take the final action doesn’t absolve him of guilt on the attempt.

Now, as an ex felon, he s not allowed to carry

No shit. He is not an ex felon. He is a felon.

That is what he is charged with
Not attempted assassination

So far. But it can be expected that the will be (and should be) charged with attempted murder.

 

[BackAgain]

16.5 Attempted Murder
(18 U.S.C. § 1113)
The defendant is charged in [Count ________ of] the indictment with attempted murder in violation of Section 1113 of Title 18 of the United States Code. For the defendant to be found guilty of that charge, the government must prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

First, the defendant did something that was a substantial step toward killing [name of intended victim];

Second, when the defendant took that substantial step, the defendant intended to kill [name of intended victim]; and

Third, the attempted killing occurred at [specify place of federal jurisdiction].

A “substantial step” is conduct that strongly corroborated the defendant’s intent to commit the crime. To constitute a substantial step, a defendant’s act or actions must unequivocally demonstrate that the crime will take place unless interrupted by independent circumstances. Mere preparation is not a substantial step toward committing the crime.

Jurors do not need to agree unanimously as to which particular act or actions constituted a substantial step toward the commission of a crime.

16.5 Attempted Murder (18 U.S.C. § 1113) | Model Jury Instructions [my emphasis added].

This being the law, and it is the law, the prosecution can absolutely charge attempted murder.

Indeed, based on press reports, Routh was interrupted by being shot at. He did far more than merely prepare. He was there having fully prepared to kill the former President and clearly was about to do so when he got interrupted.

Whether he ends up getting charged accordingly is up to the prosecutor. But that doesn’t mean that the prosecutor shouldn’t charge attempted murder. It damn well ought to be charged.

 

[EMH]

Got nothing to do with them. Facts are facts, that's all there is to it.

You wouldn't know a fact if it was taped on a baseball bat and whacked into your head....

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

https://www.wdhn.com/news/trump-taylor-swift-will-probably-pay-a-price-in-the-marketplace-for-harris-endorsement/

JD Vance spelled it out after the Mamphis school shooting . And in his veiled threat to Taylor Swift.
Why should the under siege American people spare any symppathy for trump when he ignores all the other gun deaths in the US. The GOP blocks every gun control initiative vut now wants sympathy for this failed attempt..
Reaping and sewing guys.

Of coutse America should be able to run an election without gunfire. But until you create a society where guns are not relevant this is just the price you pay. Like JD said when those children in Memphis were slaughtered.

nb Vance actually said shootings were "a fact of life" which is pretty much the same Antoinette type of brainless comment. Let them eat cake indeed.

The prime minister of Japan was assassinated in 2022, a country with strict gun control laws.

 

[Crepitus]

You wouldn't know a fact if it was taped on a baseball bat and whacked into your head....

typically violent RWNJ impulse...

 

[carloz]

false dichotomy

 

[EMH]

typically violent RWNJ impulse...

cold hard truth, something your side places ZERO VALUE on...

 

[Mack The Finger]

nb Vance actually said shootings were "a fact of life" which is pretty much the same Antoinette type of brainless comment. Let them eat cake indeed.

 

[Crepitus]

cold hard truth, something your side places ZERO VALUE on...

Like you even know what that is.

 

[EMH]

Like you even know what that is.

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Well, at least I can answer basic climate questions, while you are too chickenshit to even try...


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

 

[Crepitus]

Well, at least I can answer basic climate questions, while you are too chickenshit to even try...

A. No, you can't.

B. You are now deflecting to another topic. That means you know I'm right.

 

[EMH]

A. No, you can't.

B. You are now deflecting to another topic. That means you know I'm right.

Actually I think I can answer those... I'd be pretty dumb to ask them if I couldn't...

Since Co2 does nothing, what does cause Earth climate change?

The first part is understanding what is climate and what is weather. Climate is the parameters of Earth that allow certain ranges of weather. We don't get Cat 10 canes now, but we would if Earth had no ice. What are the parameters of climate that can change? Ocean levels Atmospheric...

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Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

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The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

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Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

The Co2 FRAUD is run by very lame "climate scientists" who flat out aren't very good at science at all. They are good at lying, fudging data, and censoring truth. But there is data, and it isn't friendly to the Co2 FRAUD, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudges everything they think they need to...

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How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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B. you are "right" about precisely nothing. You lie about 911, Covid, Co2 FRAUD, 1/6, illegals, and that is why your party has

1. an absolutely pathetic excuse of a mental case serial liar in JDAAC Chickenhawk Walz for VP
2. the most pathetic example ever of a meritless low character moron getting way too far ahead in life solely because of Affirmative Action DEI Fascist state sponsored DNA discrimination running for Prez by dodging all questions she doesn't get in advance and dishonestly plagiarizing the platform of her opponent

 

[lennypartiv]

Trump shooting is the price you pay for freedom​

What an idiotic statement. We should not have dead people just because we have freedom.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[frigidweirdo]

Never cede a right to the government because a few abuse it.

Like the right to own a nuke?

 

[Leo123]

Second Amendment rights

The guy yesterday was just a tourist exercising his right to carry

Naw, the right to carry is not a right to point a rifle from a sniper's nest. Very weak anti 2nd amendment argument there, 'righty.'

 

[pknopp]

Like the right to own a nuke?

Sure. I believe if the government has the right, the people do also. I'm not sure who could afford one but that wasn't your question.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sure. I believe if the government has the right, the people do also. I'm not sure who could afford one but that wasn't your question.

Governments don't have rights.... to anything. That's not what rights are.

Rights are literally power that people have that the govt doesn't have.

Well, Elon Musk could afford one... would you trust him with one?