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The news that trump has been in cahoots with the Russians comes as no surprise. The signs have been there for quite some time. I suspect that this is at least partially behind the right-wing attempts to blame China, and Biden, for just about everything. I'm not siding with China. I'm just saying that the right-wingers always use deflection to take the heat off themselves.
No we don’tThe news that trump has been in cahoots with the Russians comes as no surprise. The signs have been there for quite some time. I suspect that this is at least partially behind the right-wing attempts to blame China, and Biden, for just about everything. I'm not siding with China. I'm just saying that the right-wingers always use deflection to take the heat off themselves.
The Cold War is over and we have expanded nato to the point that we are treaty bound to fight WWIII over Estonia.
We need to stop fucking with Russia.
Interesting. The timing seems far to coincidental for sure.NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
I don't think so. Trump spent all his political capital trying to make it all go away when an innocent man would have devoted all his energy to a far more popular program of punching back at the Russian espionage operation directed squarely at him.Trump went to Russia in 1987. Came back and started getting political.
Not a smoking gun...but interesting.
I think there is some evidence for it.Of course he is. We l knew it from the beginning. When he first won there were Russians on here gloating . B.kidd and Marvin Martian are still on here gloating.NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Asset? Maybe. But its sort of like saying the 3rd string quarterback on the Buccaneers is a Super Bowl Champion. He is...but is he really?
Like any other tool, he had his uses. Was it an active relationship? I don't think so. But was there a relationship? I think that has been established. Everyone he hired for his campaign had contact with Russians it seems.
Was that a coincidence?
What makes you think thanks a conspiracy theory? It's not like not came from gateway pundit. NY magazine is a pretty solid source.NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Wrong sub forum. Reported. Should be conspiracy theories. RIght next to Bigfoot.
No we don’tThe news that trump has been in cahoots with the Russians comes as no surprise. The signs have been there for quite some time. I suspect that this is at least partially behind the right-wing attempts to blame China, and Biden, for just about everything. I'm not siding with China. I'm just saying that the right-wingers always use deflection to take the heat off themselves.
The Cold War is over and we have expanded nato to the point that we are treaty bound to fight WWIII over Estonia.
We need to stop fucking with Russia.
Agreed. Trump initially spoke of dismantling NATO, but he eventually expanded it. Further provoking Russia. He continued O’s numerous and onerous sanctions, then expanded economic sanctions on Russia. He allowed multiple war games to occur along Russia’s borders and US war ships plied the wars of the Black and Baltic Seas, further provoking Russia.Are you prepared to just let Russia walk all over us and threaten our allies? Apparently so.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
Are you prepared to fight wwiii over Estonia?
We should not be treaty bound to do shit, we are not actually prepared to do.
During the Cold War, I supported the idea that we would fight a war over West Germany.
But now, over ESTONIA?
That is what we are doing and it is insane.
That is not a reasonable policy.
Yet it is our policy.
NATO expansion was a bad idea, and now we have to leave it asap.
Russia is fucking with us. Americans fuck back.The news that trump has been in cahoots with the Russians comes as no surprise. The signs have been there for quite some time. I suspect that this is at least partially behind the right-wing attempts to blame China, and Biden, for just about everything. I'm not siding with China. I'm just saying that the right-wingers always use deflection to take the heat off themselves.
The Cold War is over and we have expanded nato to the point that we are treaty bound to fight WWIII over Estonia.
We need to stop fucking with Russia.
You crazy. Just like a rabid Trumper, but don’t know it.You know all the accusations you just spent 5 years fighting. The off the record conversations with Putin. The undeclared Russian agents in his circle. The flat denials of clear Russian interference in the election. The hair on fire efforts to discredit the Steele dossier. The way he was far more hostile to our allies than Putin. The dirty Trump Moscow deal. The Trump tower meeting with Russian agents. The way he treated Ukraine. The way he shamelessly kissed Putin's ass no matter what. The Russians clearly had some sort of leverage over Trump. Why don't you want to know what it was?What actions? Be specific.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
What makes you think thanks a conspiracy theory? It's not like not came from gateway pundit. NY magazine is a pretty solid source.NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Wrong sub forum. Reported. Should be conspiracy theories. RIght next to Bigfoot.
Agreed. Trump initially spoke of dismantling NATO, but he eventually expanded it. Further provoking Russia. He continued O’s numerous and onerous sanctions, then expanded economic sanctions on Russia. He allowed multiple war games to occur along Russia’s borders and US war ships plied the wars of the Black and Baltic Seas, further provoking Russia.Are you prepared to just let Russia walk all over us and threaten our allies? Apparently so.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
Are you prepared to fight wwiii over Estonia?
We should not be treaty bound to do shit, we are not actually prepared to do.
During the Cold War, I supported the idea that we would fight a war over West Germany.
But now, over ESTONIA?
That is what we are doing and it is insane.
That is not a reasonable policy.
Yet it is our policy.
NATO expansion was a bad idea, and now we have to leave it asap.
None of this is known to Americans who only consume establishment controlled media. It’s dangerous when our media lies and deceives the American people.
I don't think so. Trump spent all his political capital trying to make it all go away when an innocent man would have devoted all his energy to a far more popular program of punching back at the Russian espionage operation directed squarely at him.Trump went to Russia in 1987. Came back and started getting political.
Not a smoking gun...but interesting.
I think there is some evidence for it.Of course he is. We l knew it from the beginning. When he first won there were Russians on here gloating . B.kidd and Marvin Martian are still on here gloating.NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Asset? Maybe. But its sort of like saying the 3rd string quarterback on the Buccaneers is a Super Bowl Champion. He is...but is he really?
Like any other tool, he had his uses. Was it an active relationship? I don't think so. But was there a relationship? I think that has been established. Everyone he hired for his campaign had contact with Russians it seems.
Was that a coincidence?
Russia is fucking with us. Americans fuck back.The news that trump has been in cahoots with the Russians comes as no surprise. The signs have been there for quite some time. I suspect that this is at least partially behind the right-wing attempts to blame China, and Biden, for just about everything. I'm not siding with China. I'm just saying that the right-wingers always use deflection to take the heat off themselves.
The Cold War is over and we have expanded nato to the point that we are treaty bound to fight WWIII over Estonia.
We need to stop fucking with Russia.
I don't think so. Trump spent all his political capital trying to make it all go away when an innocent man would have devoted all his energy to a far more popular program of punching back at the Russian espionage operation directed squarely at him.Trump went to Russia in 1987. Came back and started getting political.
Not a smoking gun...but interesting.
I think there is some evidence for it.Of course he is. We l knew it from the beginning. When he first won there were Russians on here gloating . B.kidd and Marvin Martian are still on here gloating.NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Asset? Maybe. But its sort of like saying the 3rd string quarterback on the Buccaneers is a Super Bowl Champion. He is...but is he really?
Like any other tool, he had his uses. Was it an active relationship? I don't think so. But was there a relationship? I think that has been established. Everyone he hired for his campaign had contact with Russians it seems.
Was that a coincidence?
It's almost hilarious at this point that some still think he wasn't in Russia's pocket when it was well known that they interfered in the election.
Yeah. They have military bases all along our borders. They have war games constantly off NYC and LA. Their onerous economic sanctions are really fucking up our economy. Their massive military budget dwarfs ours. Their constant warring on small nations and imperial actions are awful.Russia is fucking with us. Americans fuck back.The news that trump has been in cahoots with the Russians comes as no surprise. The signs have been there for quite some time. I suspect that this is at least partially behind the right-wing attempts to blame China, and Biden, for just about everything. I'm not siding with China. I'm just saying that the right-wingers always use deflection to take the heat off themselves.
The Cold War is over and we have expanded nato to the point that we are treaty bound to fight WWIII over Estonia.
We need to stop fucking with Russia.
I expect the story will come out in little dribbles over the next couple of years.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
We are dealing with a hostile state that means us harm. Crazy would be just letting them screw with us without repercussions.You crazy. Just like a rabid Trumper, but don’t know it.You know all the accusations you just spent 5 years fighting. The off the record conversations with Putin. The undeclared Russian agents in his circle. The flat denials of clear Russian interference in the election. The hair on fire efforts to discredit the Steele dossier. The way he was far more hostile to our allies than Putin. The dirty Trump Moscow deal. The Trump tower meeting with Russian agents. The way he treated Ukraine. The way he shamelessly kissed Putin's ass no matter what. The Russians clearly had some sort of leverage over Trump. Why don't you want to know what it was?What actions? Be specific.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
NY Mag makes a good case to the affirmative:
From the source:
Trump visited Moscow in July 1987. He stayed at the National Hotel, in the Lenin Suite, which certainly would have been bugged. There is not much else in the public record to describe his visit, except Trump’s own recollection in The Art of the Deal that Soviet officials were eager for him to build a hotel there. (It never happened.)
Trump returned from Moscow fired up with political ambition. He began the first of a long series of presidential flirtations, which included a flashy trip to New Hampshire. Two months after his Moscow visit, Trump spent almost $100,000 on a series of full-page newspaper ads that published a political manifesto. “An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Wrong sub forum. Reported. Should be conspiracy theories. RIght next to Bigfoot.
I expect the story will come out in little dribbles over the next couple of years.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
Yes. Right now there are certainly individuals reaching into that special file they kept at the back of the drawer and getting a literary agent.I expect the story will come out in little dribbles over the next couple of years.There are many questions concerning Trump's inexplicable actions concerning Russia with zero political will to answer them. The republicans don't want to know and the democrats don't want to be seen to have used our intelligence services against him. Perhaps when Trump is no longer relevant in any way we may finally find out just how bad it was.
