Trump Is Going To Lose Most Of The Current Federal Court Cases....Then What?

[Slade3200]

How you derive that the Constitutional amendment EVER was intended to say (or that it somehow does say) that an illegal alien giving birth to a child on our soil automatically makes that newborn a US Citizen is the real mystery. It isn’t what the amendment says and absolutely not what it means.

The amendment says if you’re born here you’re a citizen. Simple. It didn’t say only children of us citizens born here are citizens.

 

[Hollie]

More moronic MAGA gibberish...not worth my time.

So do what you usually do and buggar off.

 

[Slade3200]

The President says what the Executive does. Not the courts.

The president says what the exec does… unless it’s illegal. Common sense man. Get some

 

[Slade3200]

As can anyone else. Need they be an “expert,” while you recognize that you don’t have to be?

Nope. I was responding to Mac’s comment. I never claimed anybody needs to be an expert, you’re misreading again

 

[kyzr]

If you are taking JD Vance's "position", then you have already lost.

Actually not until all appeals are over and the USSC rules has anyone lost.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

How you derive that the Constitutional amendment EVER was intended to say (or that it somehow does say) that an illegal alien giving birth to a child on our soil automatically makes that newborn a US Citizen is the real mystery. It isn’t what the amendment says and absolutely not what it means.

It is not a mystery at all -- there were no illegal immigration laws in the 1860s when the 14th Amendment was written.

If you MAGA racists don't like the 14th Amendment anymore, then get Congress to repeal it.

Trump is going to get his ass handed to him in this case.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

More than you, Ghonorhrea!

That has never been the case. You are pure MAGA lightweight imbecile.....No facts, no game, and no intellect.

And proud of it.

 

[Billiejeens]

 

[Marener]

Watch a little FOX news... it will do you good... the other news agencies are full of shit...

Wasn’t Fox News the one that had to pay almost $1 billion because they were lying about Dominion?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Actually not until all appeals are over and the USSC rules has anyone lost.

You cling to that, Kleetus.

 

[Billiejeens]

It is not a mystery at all -- there were no illegal immigration laws in the 1860s when the 14th Amendment was written.

If you MAGA racists don't like the 14th Amendment anymore, then get Congress to repeal it.

Trump is going to get his ass handed to him in this case.

The current SCOTUS will give the 14th amendment a proper reading.


Then - boom

 

[skye]

Below is the current situation regarding all of Trump's Federal court cases. Trump is getting his ass handed to him right now by the Federal judges. --

Everything Trump is doing is blatantly unconstitutional. A 10 year old civics student can tell you that. Most of these court cases will just be laughed out of court.

What is Trump going to do when he ultimately loses most of these cases? Is he just going to ignore the rulings and become King Trump? That's my guess.

And his pathetic lackey JD Vance is already encouraging Trump to do just that.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/trump-lawsuits-executive-orders-actions-legal-challenges/

 

[Billiejeens]

Who is going to stop Trump from doing what he wants?

Republicans in Congress are afraid of him
The Courts can rule against him but has no enforcement capability

A more fantastic post was never made!

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

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Trump is the one losing in court, Kleetus....not Democrats.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

A more fantastic post was never made!

Yes....because you embrace King Trump and fascism.

And are proud of it.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The current SCOTUS will give the 14th amendment a proper reading.


Then - boom

Thomas and Alito are true Trump ball lickers. It will probably be a 7 - 2 or 6 - 3 decision against Trump.

If SCOTUS even decides to hear the case. What Trump is doing is so laughably illegal that they might decline to hear the case.

 

[Billiejeens]

Yes....because you embrace King Trump and fascism.

And are proud of it.

Extremely proud.

I can hardly wait for his boys to round up idiots like you and throw them down a well.

Metaphorically of course.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Extremely proud.

I can hardly wait for his boys to round up idiots like you and throw them down a well.

Metaphorically of course.

No, it's not metaphorical. You people are evil.

 

[BackAgain]

The amendment says if you’re born here you’re a citizen. Simple. It didn’t say only children of us citizens born here are citizens.

That’s absolutely NOT what it says.

You persist in misreading the Amendment. It’s a shit way to discuss the subject.

Here:

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Now that you hopefully have a clear view of what the Amendment ACTUALLY says, maybe we can get down to why the Interpretation of the Amendment needs to be corrected.

In that regard, courts look to the roots of any such law or Amensmwnt. Therefore it matters what one of the Amendmwnt’s own sponsors said at the time:

Sen. Trumbull stated during the drafting of the above national birthright law debates that it was the goal to “make citizens of everybody born in the United States who owe allegiance to the United States,” and if “the negro or white man belonged to a foreign Government he would not be a citizen.”

https://www.federalistblog.us/2007/09/revisiting_subject_to_the_jurisdiction/ (my emphasis is supplied).

There a great deal of additional item of support for what was intended as opposed to how it has been interpreted to date.

See:

Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee (39th Congress), James F. Wilson of Iowa, confirmed on March 1, 1866 that children under this class of aliens would not be citizens: “We must depend on the general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations for a definition, and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except that of children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments.”

Id.

Note. It is a topic worthy of additional discussion and debate. And, yes, there are two or more sides. But given what was said during the initial debates, I am hopeful that SCOTUS will accept the case (sooner rather than later) so that we can get on about the business of (hopefully) correcting the long-standing misinterpretation.

 

[Billiejeens]

Thomas and Alito are true Trump ball lickers. It will probably be a 7 - 2 or 6 - 3 decision against Trump.

If SCOTUS even decides to hear the case. What Trump is doing is so laughably illegal that they might decline to hear the case.

You should not practice law on the internet
you are awful at it.