Trump: Fascist or Democratic leader?

[Slade3200]

That's it. You just lost whatever credibility you had.

can't handle a discussion about it??

 

[Slade3200]

He is innocent. None of his lawfare led to convictions. But he raided his home and had the FBI go through his wife’s personal clothing. Obviously sending a message of thuggery. If Trump did that, Herr Slade, you would call it Fascism.

Unfortuanately neither of his fed court cases saw trial. Would have been nice to see the evidence gathered.

 

[Slade3200]

No, Herr Slack. You can’t even make use of an unbiased definition

You also don’t grasp that you offered a false dichotomy.

And you don’t yet grasp that we are a Constitutional republic, not a democracy.

Do we are do we not operate on democratic principles? Thats how a constitutional republic operates

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That all happened during Trumps term. Try again

No in 2021

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unfortuanately neither of his fed court cases saw trial. Would have been nice to see the evidence gathered.

You said he was guilty. So you lied. This is the first time in my lifetime that a sitting president unleashed the DOJ on his main political opponent. That’s Fascism.

 

[Slade3200]

He tried to prevent them from prosecuting his son but a fair judge called em out. Way to move the goal posts. Biden controls the DOJ and unleashed them on his main political opponent and it backfired. He also made sure allegedly that his security detail was insufficient. Also backfired.

Its not moving the goalposts its debunking your law fair claims. If Biden was pulling the strings and unleashing the DOJ on his enemies then his son would not have been indicted. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Slade3200]

No in 2021

Really? They didn't have to mask up and shelter in place during 2020 under Trump? Or are you just ignoring that?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Its not moving the goalposts its debunking your law fair claims. If Biden was pulling the strings and unleashing the DOJ on his enemies then his son would not have been indicted. You can't have it both ways.

He controls the DOJ but even he couldn’t stop that train. Too much evidence. Yet Hunter will never spend one day in prison.

 

[Slade3200]

You said he was guilty. So you lied. This is the first time in my lifetime that a sitting president unleashed the DOJ on his main political opponent. That’s Fascism.

I sitting prez didn't unleash anybody. An ex president committed crimes and was prosecuted for them. that's the amazing thing here that you love to ignore

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Really? They didn't have to mask up and shelter in place during 2020 under Trump? Or are you just ignoring that?

In 2020 they had to shelter in place due to Massachusetts being a deep blue idiot state. By 2021 the pandemic was over but Biden kept the restrictions and denied it was made in a lab

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I sitting prez didn't unleash anybody. An ex president committed crimes and was prosecuted for them. that's the amazing thing here that you love to ignore

No he didn’t. In America one is innocent until proven guilty. Biden unleashed the DOJ on his main political opponent. Justified or not, and we can debate that fact, it happened. That’s Fascism, Herr Slade.

 

[Slade3200]

You said he was guilty.

I said it would be nice to see the evidence and court cases. He has been found guilty in other state cases as well.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I said it would be nice to see the evidence and court cases. He has been found guilty in other state cases as well.

Only in partisan NYC and it will get overturned. No, you said he was guilty of the crimes. Biden and his DoJ tried to take down their main political opponent and you don’t see that as Fascism. Amazing.

 

[martybegan]

Ok, Round 2 of the Trump circus has begun. I've made the observation that Trump is a Populist Fascist leader. While being a bit in the gray area when it comes to regulations, he fits many of the other fascist attributes to a "T". The deregulation does make sense given he is a private businessman and that helps his personal enrichment game.

This thread is to point out Trumps fascist attributes and for those who think he is all about freedom and democracy to defend their position.

We are only a couple weeks in and we are seeing my first Fascist point being excellently highlighted. Recess Appointments. A tactic to bypass the constitutional power of Congress to advise and consent for cabinet picks. The all powerful Trump does not respect this process and is threatening to steam roll it.

Is that Fascist or Democratic in your mind??

Any other examples y'all want to point out... please go right ahead.

Fascist would be doing it without using the mechanism of a recess appointment, which has been shown to be legal, Constitutional, and used in the past by Presidents of both parties. Once Hitler got power via the Enabling Act he didn't bother with following the rules.

Removing power from the federal bureaucracy is not fascist. The Nazis created a secondary bureaucracy via the SS and eventually merged the existing civil service and expanded on it.

Leaving issues like Abortion to the States is not Fascist. The Nazis eliminated the federal nature of the German State, consolidating power at the German federal level and making all rules at the federal level. They then made State governments follow the Furherprinzip, removing elections and making positions by appointment from the national government.

 

[MarathonMike]

can't handle a discussion about it??

If you are denying that the Democrat Regime has inflicted serious damage to our country you are either lying or delusional. It is not my job to point out the obvious.

 

[Slade3200]

Only in partisan NYC and it will get overturned. No, you said he was guilty of the crimes. Biden and his DoJ tried to take down their main political opponent and you don’t see that as Fascism. Amazing.

You don’t have an accurate history of recounting the things I’ve said. Always quick to make assumptions and put words in my mouth instead of being curious and seeking clarity. Too desperate for a gotchya.

I’ve seen what Trump did in the stolen election case and I’ve heard the reporting in the documents case. What I’m curious to see is the evidence and legal arguments behind them because from my eyes he looks guilty as hell. I wouldn’t proclaim them guilty without seeing a trial. I can easily say that he looks guilty and left enough evidence for a prosecutor to issue an indictment

 

[Slade3200]

Fascist would be doing it without using the mechanism of a recess appointment, which has been shown to be legal, Constitutional, and used in the past by Presidents of both parties. Once Hitler got power via the Enabling Act he didn't bother with following the rules.

Removing power from the federal bureaucracy is not fascist. The Nazis created a secondary bureaucracy via the SS and eventually merged the existing civil service and expanded on it.

Leaving issues like Abortion to the States is not Fascist. The Nazis eliminated the federal nature of the German State, consolidating power at the German federal level and making all rules at the federal level. They then made State governments follow the Furherprinzip, removing elections and making positions by appointment from the national government.

Fascists use whatever they can to consolidate power and diminish opposition. That’s Trump

 

[martybegan]

Fascists use whatever they can to consolidate power and diminish opposition. That’s Trump

You ignored all my points, and just made a blanket wrong opinion.

How about actually reading what I posted?

 

[Slade3200]

Leaving issues like Abortion to the States is not Fascist.

When the status quo was providing protections for women and that changed to “go to the states” resulting in less choice and right for women… that’s fascist in nature. That the gov controlling people more

 

[Slade3200]

If you are denying that the Democrat Regime has inflicted serious damage to our country you are either lying or delusional. It is not my job to point out the obvious.

I’m asking for examples. Because I heard a lot of hot air and hyperbole about it during the election. Stuff that can’t be backed up by actual numbers. Was curious what damage you’re talking about