Our founding fathers feared the possibility of a Donald Trump in the future.

[DonGlock26]

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[Missouri_Mike]

No matter what I am, if you tell people with people with mental disabilities and physical disabilities to f**k off you are without question a huge asshole.
No doubt you are perfect for MAGA.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can’t hurt the retards feelings. **** off. Your disability or skin color or any of the other horseshit you try to use to shut people up can **** off.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can’t hurt the retards feelings. ** off. Your disability or skin color or any of the other horseshit you try to use to shut people up can ** off.

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Robert Downey Jr said “Never go full retard”.

 

[Fang]

Since you understand AI, tell me why you don't feel it is a good source of information.

Really? So you think AI is 100% correct all the time? Also, you don’t think the response can be swayed by the person generating the prompt? Do you not understand that the AI response always needs to be verified by a human? What the person who originally responded to you is saying is no one here is going to verify your multi-page AI response, nor are they going to take it as 100% accurate.

This is an AI generated response. Is it accurate?

“Under Joe Biden, the U.S. eased pressure on Iran through weaker sanctions enforcement, renewed diplomacy efforts, and access to billions in oil revenue, allowing Iran to rebuild financially and strengthen regional proxy groups. Iran’s oil exports and revenues surged during this period, while Iran-backed militias and terrorist organizations became increasingly aggressive across the Middle East. These policies emboldened Iran and helped create the conditions that led to the current conflict.”

I further queried AI. Now AI is telling Joe Biden is directly responsible for Iran’s expedited nuclear program.

“Under Joe Biden, the United States abandoned the “maximum pressure” strategy that had crippled Iran’s economy and limited its regional power. Sanctions enforcement weakened, Iranian oil exports surged, and billions of dollars flowed back into the regime, allowing Tehran to massively expand support for Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and other militant proxies across the Middle East. At the same time, Iran accelerated uranium enrichment to near weapons-grade levels, dramatically shrinking its nuclear breakout time while facing limited consequences from the international community. Together, these policies strengthened Iran economically, militarily, and strategically — helping create the conditions that led directly to the current war and the growing nuclear threat.“

 

[dblack]

Really? So you think AI is 100% correct all the time? Also, you don’t think the response can be swayed by the person generating the prompt? Do you not understand that the AI response always needs to be verified by a human? What the person who originally responded to you is saying is no one here is going to verify your multi-page AI response, nor are they going to take it as 100% accurate.

This is an AI generated response. Is it accurate?

“Under Joe Biden, the U.S. eased pressure on Iran through weaker sanctions enforcement, renewed diplomacy efforts, and access to billions in oil revenue, allowing Iran to rebuild financially and strengthen regional proxy groups. Iran’s oil exports and revenues surged during this period, while Iran-backed militias and terrorist organizations became increasingly aggressive across the Middle East. These policies emboldened Iran and helped create the conditions that led to the current conflict.”

I further queried AI. Now AI is telling Joe Biden is directly responsible for Iran’s expedited nuclear program.

“Under Joe Biden, the United States abandoned the “maximum pressure” strategy that had crippled Iran’s economy and limited its regional power. Sanctions enforcement weakened, Iranian oil exports surged, and billions of dollars flowed back into the regime, allowing Tehran to massively expand support for Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and other militant proxies across the Middle East. At the same time, Iran accelerated uranium enrichment to near weapons-grade levels, dramatically shrinking its nuclear breakout time while facing limited consequences from the international community. Together, these policies strengthened Iran economically, militarily, and strategically — helping create the conditions that led directly to the current war and the growing nuclear threat.“

AI is programmed to maximize engagement. That means, ultimately, telling you what you want to hear.

 

[Mac1958]

Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, AI can be an absolutely outstanding starting point. With the correct prompts, you can make it narrow down start-from-scratch research significantly. Then you can use that to begin zeroing in on what you're trying to accomplish. I use it all the time for investing.

But, as with anything else, garbage in, garbage out. So your prompts need to be precise, comprehensive and accurate.

 

[JWBooth]

Our founding fathers feared the possibility of a Donald Trump in the future.

George Washington warned against excessive political partisanship and the rise of individuals who could manipulate divisions for personal power.
George was brilliant. What he predicted is happening now.
Thomas Jefferson feared the emergence of an elected monarchy. He believed constant vigilance was necessary to preserve liberty and worried about executive overreach.
Sound familiar
James Madison argued that people are vulnerable to factions and ambitious leaders. In Federalist No. 47 and No. 51, he emphasized separation of powers and checks and balances to prevent tyranny.
Trump is at war with the seperation of power and checks and balances to his power

Benjamin Franklin famously responded after the Constitutional Convention that Americans had created “a republic, if you can keep it,” reflecting concern that democratic systems can decay into authoritarianism.

History is filled with authoritarian takeovers: America’s Founders hoped to prevent them

Americans who would accept dictatorship do not know history and their own government. The scourge of dictatorship must never stain America.

thefulcrum.us

Your timeline is phuked
They would be appalled by everything after about 1830 and a good deal taking place before then.

 

[22lcidw]

Democrats and Republican both want to stack the SCOTUS with those that go their way.
It has not always been that way. Both focused on moderates on their side. Now they focus on extremists on their side.

Hamilton and founding fathers described the judiciary as:

• the “least dangerous” branch of government
• a branch with “neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment”
• an institution meant to be independent from political pressure
• Judges should not worry about reelection.
• They should not try to please politicians or the public.
• They needed stability and independence to make unpopular but lawful decisions.

Another tenet of our government, put together by the founding fathers, has been thrown out the window by a polarized government dominated by extremists.

The Fiat Currency has done most of this. For now, it is about spending federal reserve notes.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Your timeline is phuked
They would be appalled by everything after about 1830 and a good deal taking place before then.

No one has butchered the founding fater's vision like Donald Trump.

No US President has affected the world in as negative way as Trump.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Really? So you think AI is 100% correct all the time? Also, you don’t think the response can be swayed by the person generating the prompt? Do you not understand that the AI response always needs to be verified by a human? What the person who originally responded to you is saying is no one here is going to verify your multi-page AI response, nor are they going to take it as 100% accurate.

This is an AI generated response. Is it accurate?

“Under Joe Biden, the U.S. eased pressure on Iran through weaker sanctions enforcement, renewed diplomacy efforts, and access to billions in oil revenue, allowing Iran to rebuild financially and strengthen regional proxy groups. Iran’s oil exports and revenues surged during this period, while Iran-backed militias and terrorist organizations became increasingly aggressive across the Middle East. These policies emboldened Iran and helped create the conditions that led to the current conflict.”

I further queried AI. Now AI is telling Joe Biden is directly responsible for Iran’s expedited nuclear program.

“Under Joe Biden, the United States abandoned the “maximum pressure” strategy that had crippled Iran’s economy and limited its regional power. Sanctions enforcement weakened, Iranian oil exports surged, and billions of dollars flowed back into the regime, allowing Tehran to massively expand support for Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and other militant proxies across the Middle East. At the same time, Iran accelerated uranium enrichment to near weapons-grade levels, dramatically shrinking its nuclear breakout time while facing limited consequences from the international community. Together, these policies strengthened Iran economically, militarily, and strategically — helping create the conditions that led directly to the current war and the growing nuclear threat.“

AI is not always 100% correct. The way the question is worded can affect the answer some, but a broad aggregation of facts showing both sides are usually shown. I cannot believe your description of Biden was generated by AI. Here is a good example of AI providing a lot of information. It includes information from both sides.

how did Biden effect Iran during his Presidency


President Joe Biden had a mixed and heavily debated impact on Iran during his presidency (2021–2025). Different groups argue he either weakened Iran through sanctions and military pressure, or indirectly strengthened it by pursuing diplomacy and easing some enforcement. Here’s the main picture:

1. Biden tried to restore diplomacy with Iran​

A major goal of Biden’s foreign policy was attempting to revive the 2015 Iran nuclear deal (the JCPOA), which the first Trump administration had left in 2018. Biden officials said they would rejoin the agreement if Iran returned to compliance.

The administration:

• Held indirect negotiations with Iran through European mediators.
• Sought limits on Iran’s uranium enrichment.
• Tried to reduce the chance of a larger Middle East war.

However, talks largely stalled by 2022–2023 and no full restored agreement was reached.

2. Iran’s nuclear program still expanded under Biden​

Despite negotiations, Iran significantly increased uranium enrichment and expanded nuclear activity during Biden’s term. International inspectors reported Iran enriching uranium to near weapons-grade levels.

Critics of Biden argue:

• Iran used negotiations to buy time.
• The administration was too focused on diplomacy.
• Sanctions enforcement was weaker than under Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign.

Supporters argue:

• Biden inherited a collapsing situation after the U.S. left the JCPOA in 2018.
• Iran had already restarted major nuclear activity before Biden took office.
• Diplomacy was the least risky alternative to war.

3. Sanctions on Iran mostly remained in place​

Although critics sometimes say Biden “lifted sanctions,” most major U.S. sanctions on Iran stayed active throughout his presidency. Iran remained heavily restricted from the global financial system.

That said:

• Enforcement of oil sanctions was viewed by some analysts as less aggressive than during Trump’s first term.
• Iran’s oil exports, especially to China, increased during parts of Biden’s presidency.
• Iran’s economy improved somewhat from the extreme pressure period of 2019–2020, though it still struggled with inflation and sanctions.

4. Biden also used military pressure against Iranian-backed groups​

Biden was not purely conciliatory toward Iran. His administration carried out strikes against Iran-backed militias in places like:

• Iraq
• Syria
• Yemen-related operations

The U.S. also increased military support for Israel after attacks involving Iran-backed groups in the region.

After the October 2023 Israel-Hamas war, tensions with Iran sharply escalated because Iran supports groups such as:

• Hezbollah
• Hamas
• Houthi forces in Yemen

5. Regional effects​

Under Biden:

• Relations between the U.S. and Iran remained hostile overall.
• No major diplomatic breakthrough occurred.
• Iran became more closely aligned with Russia and China.
• Iran supplied drones to Russia during the Ukraine war, which led to additional sanctions.

Bottom line​

People view Biden’s effect on Iran very differently depending on their political perspective:

• Critics say Biden’s diplomacy and softer enforcement gave Iran economic breathing room and allowed its nuclear program to advance.
• Supporters say Biden prevented an even larger regional conflict, kept sanctions largely intact, and inherited a damaged nuclear agreement that was already unraveling.

Objectively, during Biden’s presidency:

• Iran did not obtain a nuclear weapon.
• Iran’s nuclear capability advanced significantly.
• U.S.–Iran relations remained adversarial.
• No lasting diplomatic settlement was achieved.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Robert Downey Jr said “Never go full retard”.

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

 

[Fang]

AI is not always 100% correct. The way the question is worded can affect the answer some, but a broad aggregation of facts showing both sides are usually shown. I cannot believe your description of Biden was generated by AI. Here is a good example of AI providing a lot of information. It includes information from both sides.

how did Biden effect Iran during his Presidency


President Joe Biden had a mixed and heavily debated impact on Iran during his presidency (2021–2025). Different groups argue he either weakened Iran through sanctions and military pressure, or indirectly strengthened it by pursuing diplomacy and easing some enforcement. Here’s the main picture:

1. Biden tried to restore diplomacy with Iran​

A major goal of Biden’s foreign policy was attempting to revive the 2015 Iran nuclear deal (the JCPOA), which the first Trump administration had left in 2018. Biden officials said they would rejoin the agreement if Iran returned to compliance.

The administration:

• Held indirect negotiations with Iran through European mediators.
• Sought limits on Iran’s uranium enrichment.
• Tried to reduce the chance of a larger Middle East war.

However, talks largely stalled by 2022–2023 and no full restored agreement was reached.

2. Iran’s nuclear program still expanded under Biden​

Despite negotiations, Iran significantly increased uranium enrichment and expanded nuclear activity during Biden’s term. International inspectors reported Iran enriching uranium to near weapons-grade levels.

Critics of Biden argue:

• Iran used negotiations to buy time.
• The administration was too focused on diplomacy.
• Sanctions enforcement was weaker than under Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign.

Supporters argue:

• Biden inherited a collapsing situation after the U.S. left the JCPOA in 2018.
• Iran had already restarted major nuclear activity before Biden took office.
• Diplomacy was the least risky alternative to war.

3. Sanctions on Iran mostly remained in place​

Although critics sometimes say Biden “lifted sanctions,” most major U.S. sanctions on Iran stayed active throughout his presidency. Iran remained heavily restricted from the global financial system.

That said:

• Enforcement of oil sanctions was viewed by some analysts as less aggressive than during Trump’s first term.
• Iran’s oil exports, especially to China, increased during parts of Biden’s presidency.
• Iran’s economy improved somewhat from the extreme pressure period of 2019–2020, though it still struggled with inflation and sanctions.

4. Biden also used military pressure against Iranian-backed groups​

Biden was not purely conciliatory toward Iran. His administration carried out strikes against Iran-backed militias in places like:

• Iraq
• Syria
• Yemen-related operations

The U.S. also increased military support for Israel after attacks involving Iran-backed groups in the region.

After the October 2023 Israel-Hamas war, tensions with Iran sharply escalated because Iran supports groups such as:

• Hezbollah
• Hamas
• Houthi forces in Yemen

5. Regional effects​

Under Biden:

• Relations between the U.S. and Iran remained hostile overall.
• No major diplomatic breakthrough occurred.
• Iran became more closely aligned with Russia and China.
• Iran supplied drones to Russia during the Ukraine war, which led to additional sanctions.

Bottom line​

People view Biden’s effect on Iran very differently depending on their political perspective:

• Critics say Biden’s diplomacy and softer enforcement gave Iran economic breathing room and allowed its nuclear program to advance.
• Supporters say Biden prevented an even larger regional conflict, kept sanctions largely intact, and inherited a damaged nuclear agreement that was already unraveling.

Objectively, during Biden’s presidency:

• Iran did not obtain a nuclear weapon.
• Iran’s nuclear capability advanced significantly.
• U.S.–Iran relations remained adversarial.
• No lasting diplomatic settlement was achieved.

I copied your AI response into AI. Here’s what AI responded with:

“ElmerMudd’s argument leaves out the central issue: Biden’s policies failed to stop Iran from getting dramatically closer to a nuclear weapon. Under Biden, Iran expanded uranium enrichment to near weapons-grade levels, increased oil revenue through weaker sanctions enforcement, deepened military ties with Russia and China, and funded proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis with greater confidence. Saying “most sanctions stayed in place” ignores the reality that enforcement matters more than words on paper — and Iran’s oil exports surged during Biden’s term. Biden may have intended diplomacy, but the outcome was a richer, more aggressive Iran that emerged strategically stronger than it was when he took office.”

 

[berg80]

Robert Downey Jr said “Never go full retard”.

You should take his advice.

In his new memoir, “The Education of a Senator,” Mr. Alexander, 85, who is also a former governor, cabinet secretary and presidential candidate, writes with disgust about how the president exhorted the crowd that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and penetrated the Senate chamber in an effort to block certification of the election.

He asserts that the president undermined the Constitution and assaulted the hallowed concept of the peaceful transfer of power.

“If those actions do not constitute a ‘high crime or misdemeanor,’ I do not know what does,” Mr. Alexander wrote in the book, which is subtitled “From J.F.K. to Trump.”

But Mr. Alexander had just left office and did not have the chance to weigh in against Mr. Trump, with whom he had an off-again, on-again relationship.

Ever the careful statesman, the ex-senator said in an interview that it would be “self-righteous and disingenuous” for him to declare how he would have voted on the second impeachment when he was not on the jury.

But he does render a verdict on the conduct of his former colleagues as Mr. Trump has steamrolled over a compliant Senate in his second term. He finds them guilty of failing to assert themselves as the Constitution intended.

Lamar Alexander Wants Republicans to Stand Up to Trump

In a new memoir, the former senator, governor and cabinet member says President Trump committed an impeachable offense on Jan. 6 and calls on Congress to assert its power.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Your little brain just repeat’s itself.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You should take his advice.

In his new memoir, “The Education of a Senator,” Mr. Alexander, 85, who is also a former governor, cabinet secretary and presidential candidate, writes with disgust about how the president exhorted the crowd that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and penetrated the Senate chamber in an effort to block certification of the election.

He asserts that the president undermined the Constitution and assaulted the hallowed concept of the peaceful transfer of power.

“If those actions do not constitute a ‘high crime or misdemeanor,’ I do not know what does,” Mr. Alexander wrote in the book, which is subtitled “From J.F.K. to Trump.”

But Mr. Alexander had just left office and did not have the chance to weigh in against Mr. Trump, with whom he had an off-again, on-again relationship.

Ever the careful statesman, the ex-senator said in an interview that it would be “self-righteous and disingenuous” for him to declare how he would have voted on the second impeachment when he was not on the jury.

But he does render a verdict on the conduct of his former colleagues as Mr. Trump has steamrolled over a compliant Senate in his second term. He finds them guilty of failing to assert themselves as the Constitution intended.

Lamar Alexander Wants Republicans to Stand Up to Trump

In a new memoir, the former senator, governor and cabinet member says President Trump committed an impeachable offense on Jan. 6 and calls on Congress to assert its power.

www.nytimes.com

Nice unrelated argle bargle.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I copied your AI response into AI. Here’s what AI responded with:

“ElmerMudd’s argument leaves out the central issue: Biden’s policies failed to stop Iran from getting dramatically closer to a nuclear weapon. Under Biden, Iran expanded uranium enrichment to near weapons-grade levels, increased oil revenue through weaker sanctions enforcement, deepened military ties with Russia and China, and funded proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis with greater confidence. Saying “most sanctions stayed in place” ignores the reality that enforcement matters more than words on paper — and Iran’s oil exports surged during Biden’s term. Biden may have intended diplomacy, but the outcome was a richer, more aggressive Iran that emerged strategically stronger than it was when he took office.”

Not a lot different than what was included in what I found except it eliminates the positives he did.

IT must be MAGA AI. It only provides information on what you want to hear.
A good AI app provides both sides of a question.

MAGA cannot handle the truth.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Your little brain just repeat’s itself.

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

 

[Chuz Life]

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Do you have any idea of what the (leftard) plan is for when Trump is no longer in office? Specifically if;

1. The Gop (Vance?) is in office instead

2. Gawd forbid, some Dim gets in there?

It'd be great if you could provide some key elements of the plan.

 

[SmokeALib]

Our founding fathers feared the possibility of a Donald Trump in the future.

George Washington warned against excessive political partisanship and the rise of individuals who could manipulate divisions for personal power.
George was brilliant. What he predicted is happening now.
Thomas Jefferson feared the emergence of an elected monarchy. He believed constant vigilance was necessary to preserve liberty and worried about executive overreach.
Sound familiar
James Madison argued that people are vulnerable to factions and ambitious leaders. In Federalist No. 47 and No. 51, he emphasized separation of powers and checks and balances to prevent tyranny.
Trump is at war with the seperation of power and checks and balances to his power

Benjamin Franklin famously responded after the Constitutional Convention that Americans had created “a republic, if you can keep it,” reflecting concern that democratic systems can decay into authoritarianism.

History is filled with authoritarian takeovers: America’s Founders hoped to prevent them

Americans who would accept dictatorship do not know history and their own government. The scourge of dictatorship must never stain America.

thefulcrum.us

Oh, oh.