Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
- 125,906
- 90,779
- 3,635
LOLOLI disagree. So if you and I have a disagreement about basketball and Coach K agrees with me over you, that should be ignored? Why? That is illogical. You’re just upset because the economy is doing very well under a President you despise and you know that will likely lead to his re-election. Be honest with yourself.Authority? This is a CEO of multi billion asset manager who is not a Trump guy telling you the truth about the economy. Why is going to SMEs a bad debateYour argument is appeal to authority. It’s weak. Even your own attempt to make an argument failed. I can see why you want me to debate Rubenstein.
Appeal to authority is a weak debate tactic. It shows you can’t make the argument yourself so you point so someone to make it for you. I can’t discuss the issue with someone who isn’t present.
I am honest with myself. I’m not claiming that Trump is cratering the economy. I’m not saying he’s a disaster. That’s the nonsense the people said about Obama (Trump especially).
The weakness in the appeal to authority goes like this:
You: Coach K agrees with me
Me: I disagree with Coach K for these reasons.
You: Lol, you think you know more than Coach K?
You can pretend to win any argument without having to make an argument if you happen to find one “expert” who agrees with you. Further, perhaps I come up with my own expert that disagree. Then we get into a useless argument about who’s expert is better.
Now, if you want to adopt a point made by someone as your own, go ahead, but you have to be able to 1. Explain the point and 2. Be able to defend it. You’re not really doing it.
Also; it’s funny to think of the average American worried about the ownership of corporate IP. If you think that’s what the Trump base isn’t worried about, you don’t know them very well.
Hold on. If you and I disagree on a basketball strategy. If you and I disagree and Coach K breaks the tie, then I win. Sorry. Coach K is arguably the GOAT. When my kids argue and I break the tie, then yes I am the authority. That is how life works. I have made several points, you disagreed, I broke the tie with the CEO from the Carlyle Group. He is not even a Trump guy. Who is an "average American"? I am sure most educated Americans do worry about it.
The tightwing Carlyle group is your tie breaker? The group that was connected to the Bush family?