Trump doesn't want to put tariffs on China now.... after taking Musk's money...

[Nuthin' Fancy]

apnews.com · article · trump-tariffs-canada-mexicoTrump threatens China, Mexico and Canada with new tariffs ...​

Nov 26, 2024 · “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the country from Canada and Mexico, and an additional 10% tariff on goods from China, as one of his first executive orders.

Gee, what happened?

electrek.co · 2023/09/07 · teslaTesla announces production of 2 millionth EV at Giga Shanghai​

Sep 7, 2023 · Tesla has announced that Gigafactory Shanghai has produced its 2 millionth electric vehicle – making it the most productive EV factory. Gigafactory Shanghai is a significant.

Within just two years of starting production, it became the biggest/most productive electric vehicle factory in the world by a wide margin.

In August of last year, Tesla announced that the factory produced its 1 millionth vehicle.

Now just 13 months later, the automaker announced that Gigafactory Shanghai has produced 2 million electric vehicles to date.

www.bbc.com · news · business-65228927Elon Musk: Tesla to build new battery factory in Shanghai - BBC​

Elon Musk's electric car company Tesla says it is expanding in China as it builds a new factory to make its large-scale batteries. The plant in Shanghai will be able to produce 10,000 of its "Megapack" energy storage units a year, the firm says.

apnews.com · article · han-zheng-trump-inaugurationVice President Han Zheng, China's representative at Trump's ...​

3 days ago · TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Vice President Han Zheng, China’s representative at Donald Trump’s inauguration, is a trusted adviser to President Xi Jinping and a long-time survivor of

 

[Mac1958]

We told you

Trump touts economic policy at rally as Senate works to confirm cabinet

While Trump promotes his "no tax on tips" proposal in Las Vegas, Senate Republicans are working to secure his team.

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"Trump says he 'would rather not' impose tariffs on China"

All that crap about tariffs, and he's been in office four days and he's already backtracking.

We all know as soon as he took Musk's money, that he wouldn't put tariffs on China, because it would make Musk less rich.

Trump has been pretty nice to China, compared to Biden, the only time he went a little anti-China was to try and beat Biden in 2020.

"In the second part of a Fox News interview, Donald Trump says he "would rather not" impose tariffs on China, while saying it was their "one very big power" over Beijing"

yeah, he's got "big power" over China, and China has HUGE POWER over Trump.....

Well done MAGA.

Just the latest example of why nothing he says can be taken seriously. So all you can do is wait until something actually happens, and then address the results.

That's a child, not a leader.

 

[Ace Nova]

More than half of all Teslas are made in China. No wonder Musk leaped with joy onstage with Trump.

Not the ones sold in the United States. In fact, 100% of all Tesla cars sold in the US are made in the US.

Tesla Sales, Production & Revenue Statistics (Q3 Update)

Tesla sold 462,890 vehicles in Q3 2024. 60k+ Superchargers in action. Model Y is the world's bestselling EV. Cybertrucks are on the road.

tridenstechnology.com

 

[Ace Nova]

They're winning, not because of themselves, but because of Musk. Musk wants to get richer. Musk does business in China and knows if tariffs happen, his business will get destroyed.

Musk told Trump to do tariffs, for some reason, and said the economy would tank.

What business of Musk's would "get destroyed" because of tariffs? Contrary to what has been said in this thread, 100% of Tesla cars sold in the US are made in the US.

Tariffs would have zero impact on Tesla cost/sales in the US. And since tariffs only apply to goods entering the US, the Teslas sold in foreign markets that are produced abroad would not be affected either.

 

[mikegriffith1]

We told you

Trump touts economic policy at rally as Senate works to confirm cabinet

While Trump promotes his "no tax on tips" proposal in Las Vegas, Senate Republicans are working to secure his team.

www.bbc.com

"Trump says he 'would rather not' impose tariffs on China"

All that crap about tariffs, and he's been in office four days and he's already backtracking.

We all know as soon as he took Musk's money, that he wouldn't put tariffs on China, because it would make Musk less rich.

Trump has been pretty nice to China, compared to Biden, the only time he went a little anti-China was to try and beat Biden in 2020.

"In the second part of a Fox News interview, Donald Trump says he "would rather not" impose tariffs on China, while saying it was their "one very big power" over Beijing"

yeah, he's got "big power" over China, and China has HUGE POWER over Trump.....

Well done MAGA.

Oh, boy. Saying "would rather not" is not the same thing as saying "won't." Did it occur to you that he was just saying he wished he didn't need to impose tariffs on China?

You know that Biden continued and expanded Trump's tariffs on China, right? You know this, right?

You guys would rather see America decline and fail than to see Trump succeed. Very sad.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The Narrative du jour.

 

[Ace Nova]

apnews.com · article · trump-tariffs-canada-mexicoTrump threatens China, Mexico and Canada with new tariffs ...​

Nov 26, 2024 · “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the country from Canada and Mexico, and an additional 10% tariff on goods from China, as one of his first executive orders.

Gee, what happened?

electrek.co · 2023/09/07 · teslaTesla announces production of 2 millionth EV at Giga Shanghai​

Sep 7, 2023 · Tesla has announced that Gigafactory Shanghai has produced its 2 millionth electric vehicle – making it the most productive EV factory. Gigafactory Shanghai is a significant.

Within just two years of starting production, it became the biggest/most productive electric vehicle factory in the world by a wide margin.

In August of last year, Tesla announced that the factory produced its 1 millionth vehicle.

Now just 13 months later, the automaker announced that Gigafactory Shanghai has produced 2 million electric vehicles to date.

www.bbc.com · news · business-65228927Elon Musk: Tesla to build new battery factory in Shanghai - BBC​

Elon Musk's electric car company Tesla says it is expanding in China as it builds a new factory to make its large-scale batteries. The plant in Shanghai will be able to produce 10,000 of its "Megapack" energy storage units a year, the firm says.

apnews.com · article · han-zheng-trump-inaugurationVice President Han Zheng, China's representative at Trump's ...​

3 days ago · TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Vice President Han Zheng, China’s representative at Donald Trump’s inauguration, is a trusted adviser to President Xi Jinping and a long-time survivor of

Tesla cars produced in China ARE NOT SOLD IN THE US.

Tesla has at least 19 factories worldwide that produce cars, parts and batteries. Only two of them currently operational in China, with one more planned for China - for a total of 3 factories in China. Those vehicles and batteries ARE NOT SOLD IN THE US.

Tesla has at least 4 MAJOR FACTORIES IN THE US THAT PRODUCE CARS/parts/batteries and another half dozen smaller factories that produce batteries and parts across North America. Those are the vehicles that are sold in the US.

I hope that clarifies it for everyone.

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List of Tesla factories - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Tesla cars produced in China ARE NOT SOLD IN THE US.

Tesla has at least 19 factories worldwide that produce cars, parts and batteries. Only two of them currently operational in China, with one more planned for China - for a total of 3 factories in China. Those vehicles and batteries ARE NOT SOLD IN THE US.

Tesla has at least 4 MAJOR FACTORIES IN THE US THAT PRODUCE CARS/parts/batteries and another half dozen smaller factories that produce batteries and parts across North America. Those are the vehicles that are sold in the US.

I hope that clarifies it for everyone.

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List of Tesla factories - Wikipedia

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Musk doesn't want his Chinese buddies getting hurt for ANY US tariffs.
I hope THAT clarifies it for you.

 

[struth]

We told you

Trump touts economic policy at rally as Senate works to confirm cabinet

While Trump promotes his "no tax on tips" proposal in Las Vegas, Senate Republicans are working to secure his team.

www.bbc.com

"Trump says he 'would rather not' impose tariffs on China"

All that crap about tariffs, and he's been in office four days and he's already backtracking.

We all know as soon as he took Musk's money, that he wouldn't put tariffs on China, because it would make Musk less rich.

Trump has been pretty nice to China, compared to Biden, the only time he went a little anti-China was to try and beat Biden in 2020.

"In the second part of a Fox News interview, Donald Trump says he "would rather not" impose tariffs on China, while saying it was their "one very big power" over Beijing"

yeah, he's got "big power" over China, and China has HUGE POWER over Trump.....

Well done MAGA.

Of course he would “rather not” he made that clear during his campaign

This isn’t anything new

 

[struth]

Musk doesn't want his Chinese buddies getting hurt for ANY US tariffs.
I hope THAT clarifies it for you.

Ok…makes sense why he doesn’t sell the cars produced there in America

Your point??

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Ok…makes sense why he doesn’t sell the cars produced there in America

Your point??

"Musk doesn't want his Chinese buddies getting hurt for ANY US tariffs".

Go to the bus stop and have a grade school kid explain it to you.

 

[struth]

"Musk doesn't want his Chinese buddies getting hurt for ANY US tariffs".

Go to the bus stop and have a grade school kid explain it to you.

Explain what? I completely agree with your comment.

 

[Ace Nova]

Musk doesn't want his Chinese buddies getting hurt for ANY US tariffs.
I hope THAT clarifies it for you.

Musk is a business man so from that aspect, he would want to have a good "business relationship" with the countries he does business with.

But in terms of Musk wanting to "protect China" from tariffs because he has 3 factories there that have zero impact on his business in the US - regardless of tariffs - isn't the way business works.

Had his US business been affected by the tariffs, as a business person, he would be against them - but not to "protect China" - in order to protect HIS OWN business. That's how business works. So no, Musk isn't too worried about "his Chinese buddies getting hurt" because of tariffs. (Because the tariffs will not affect his business).

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Musk is a business man so from that aspect, he would want to have a good "business relationship" with the countries he does business with.

But in terms of Musk wanting to "protect China" from tariffs because he has 3 factories there that have zero impact on his business in the US - regardless of tariffs - isn't the way business works.

BS.

Had his US business been affected by the tariffs, as a business person, he would be against them - but not to "protect China" - in order to protect HIS OWN business. That's how business works. So no, Musk isn't too worried about "his Chinese buddies getting hurt" because of tariffs. (Because the tariffs will not affect his business).

They affect CHINA.
His buddies and your trying to say what ever affects China, doesn't affect him?

 

[Ace Nova]

BS.

They affect CHINA.
His buddies and your trying to say what ever affects China, doesn't affect him?

Not really.

It would be much easier for Musk to close down his factories in China and open them up somewhere else in the world than it would be for China to penalize Musk's businesses that are in China. Musk has already pulled some of his businesses from California to Texas for similar reasons.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Not really.

WTF?

It would be much easier for Musk to close down his factories in China and open them up somewhere else in the world

No, it wouldn't.

than it would be for China to penalize Musk's businesses that are in China.

Why would they do that?

Musk has already pulled some of his businesses from California to Texas for similar reasons.

 

[berg80]

"Trump says he 'would rather not' impose tariffs on China"

All that crap about tariffs, and he's been in office four days and he's already backtracking.

He'll likely change his mind 5 times in the next 5 days if past is prologue.

 

[Ace Nova]

WTF?

No, it wouldn't.

Why would they do that?

Yes, it would be easy for Musk to leave China - for the same reasons some US companies threaten to leave the US if they are taxed too much, over regulated, etc.

China wouldn't do it - That's the point! China would not risk losing businesses for political reasons. That's why the tariffs would not affect Musk in the US or (most likely) even in China.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Yes, it would be easy for Musk to leave China - for the same reasons some US companies threaten to leave the US if they are taxed too much, over regulated, etc.

GREED.

China wouldn't do it - That's the point! China would not risk losing businesses for political reasons. That's why the tariffs would not affect Musk in the US or (most likely) even in China.

Yes, it would.
If didn't, WHY would Trump implement them?

 

[Luckyone]

Is Musk starting to gain a measure of control over Trump?

Out this morning:

Trump Would ‘Rather Not’ Put Tariffs on China, Maintains Threat​

Yesterday he was talking about 10% tariffs on China but today he is considering no tariffs? Yet, tariffs are still "heaven" to him as he did state on Wednesday that he was imposing a 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

So why the turnaround on China, especially when he mentioned raising tariffs on China by 60% just 2 months ago?

Can it be he is listening (and doing) what Musk wants?