Trump Challenges Equal Endowment Of Birthright Citizenship For Children Of Illegal Migrants

[Unkotare]

" Trump Challenges Equal Endowment Of Birthright Citizenship For Children Of Illegal Migrants "

President Trump may sign executive order ending birthright citizenship

On Friday, various sources told The Hill that members of the Trump Administration have been discussing the issue with increasing frequency.

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Under current law, all babies born in United States are automatically granted citizenship, regardless of whether or not their parents are American. An executive order signed by President Trump would likely put an end to such legal protections.
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However, the courts have not definitively ruled on the issue.
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Critics of birthright citizenship oppose the fact that illegal immigrants and visitors to the United States can give birth to children who automatically have American citizenship rights.

When you have all these pregnant women about to give birth show up at US border trying to enter the USA so their babies can become US citizens, yes agree in these cases they should be denied US citizenship.

You can't apply the Constitution on a case-by-case basis.

 

[9thIDdoc]

That was an idiotic law to begin with as applied to illegal aliens. Only a hugh incentive to break reasonable immigration laws. President Trump should do this'

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Protections Versus Endowment The Two Are Not The Same "

* Fugitives At Large *

by denying due process of law? only the right wing believes in sacrificing the end to the means.

Due process would determined that the parents are SUBJECTS of their country of origin and NOT SUBJECTS of us as such requires a formal agreement that occurs by means of us legal immigration system and therefore the children of illegal migrants are to be given jus sanguinin - citizenship of their parents .

 

[danielpalos]

" Protections Versus Endowment The Two Are Not The Same "

* Fugitives At Large *

by denying due process of law? only the right wing believes in sacrificing the end to the means.

Due process would determined that the parents are SUBJECTS of their country of origin and NOT SUBJECTS of us as such requires a formal agreement that occurs by means of us legal immigration system and therefore the children of illegal migrants are to be given jus sanguinin - citizenship of their parents .

They are claiming to be refugees seeking refuge.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Disregards That 11 Million Subjects Of Foreign Government Are Not Refugees "

* Go Get Lost Somewhere Else *

They are claiming to be refugees seeking refuge.

What is you estimate for the number of illegal migrants that do not file a request peition for status of refugee a consulate being that they are likely to be deported ?

What is your estimate for the number of illegal migrants which return to their home of origin or otherwise leave the united states upon being found ineligible for asylum ?

What is your estimate for the number of illegal migrants which have children in the us and were not ever eligible for a status as refugees ?

Record Number of Asylum Cases in FY 2019

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The number of immigrants who have been granted asylum more than doubled from 9,684 in FY 2014 to 19,831 in FY 2019. However, the number of immigrants who have been denied asylum or other relief grew even faster from 9,716 immigrants to 46,735 over the same time period. Six-nine percent (69%) of asylum seekers were denied asylum or other relief in 2019. See Figure 1

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Biden’s Foolish Immigration Priorities

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After many false starts — including the zero-tolerance policy that drove family separations — the Trump administration got a handle on the border thanks to its “remain in Mexico” policy and “safe third country” agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras.

These initiatives closed an enormous loophole in the U.S. asylum system — undeserving asylum-seekers were able to gain access to our country, stay here for years while their claims worked their way through overwhelmed immigration courts, and remain even after their claims were denied because we lack the capacity (or will) to track and deport them. This running, de facto amnesty served as a powerful magnet for migrants from Central America.

But the Trump administration managed to get Mexico to agree to the so-called Migration Protection Protocols. This meant that asylum-seekers from countries other than Mexico could be made to remain in Mexico while their claims were adjudicated in the U.S. Also, under the safe-third-country agreements, asylum-seekers could be sent to Guatemala, El Salvador, or Honduras (whichever wasn’t their home country) to apply for asylum there. The theory was that if they were genuinely persecuted in their own country rather than simply seeking to come to the United States, they’d be satisfied to apply for asylum in some other nearby country; as it turned out, not surprisingly, most simply chose to go home when they realized an asylum claim wasn’t a ticket into the United States.

 

[danielpalos]

It is about natural rights once they are subject to our jurisdiction.

Are you upset this is not an abortion thread?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Latin Americans Maintaining Responsibility For Their Own Subjects "

* Intentional Language Barrier *

It is about natural rights once they are subject to our jurisdiction.
Are you upset this is not an abortion thread?

Do you agree or disagree that the sojourn migrants are subjects of the government of the country from which they originated ?

So the trump administration outsmarted the establishment by setting up refugee locations outside of the united states to control access by foreign subjtects to employee markets available to us corporations by setting up optional locations through social civil agreements between the united states and foreign countries qualifying as capable locations to acquire refugee status .

Who should disagree with the adequacy of such diplomacy on behalf of us citizens ?

 

[danielpalos]

Do you agree or disagree that the sojourn migrants are subjects of the government of the country from which they originated ?

No, only because our extra-Constitutional immigration laws which makes it easier to ask for asylum than just visit through Ellis Island and paying a fee.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" As Stated An Ant-Racist Racist Promoting La Raza "

* Attempting Too Fool Know One *

No, only because our extra-Constitutional immigration laws which makes it easier to ask for asylum than just visit through Ellis Island and paying a fee.

That you are simply helping yourself was not ever a disguised , except there were only 32 million from europe and the world in 400 years prior to 1965 - that includes ellis island , whereas 59 million have arrived since then .

Sovereign countries complant with humanitarian standards and more ethnically native should maintain the well being of those displaced .

 

[danielpalos]

" As Stated An Ant-Racist Racist Promoting La Raza "

* Attempting Too Fool Know One *

No, only because our extra-Constitutional immigration laws which makes it easier to ask for asylum than just visit through Ellis Island and paying a fee.

That you are simply helping yourself was not ever a disguised , except there were only 32 million from europe and the world in 400 years prior to 1965 - that includes ellis island , whereas 59 million have arrived since then .

Sovereign countries complant with humanitarian standards and more ethnically native should maintain the well being of those displaced .

It is Your right wing insistence on Immigration laws that is creating the problem. We have no Immigration clause it is an express establishment clause for an uniform rule of naturalization. We should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Any Presumptive Burden Of Alternative Obligations No Longer Valid - Contrasting 1952 With 1965 At 32 Million Versus 59 Million "

* 32 Million Versus 59 Million *

It is Your right wing insistence on Immigration laws that is creating the problem. We have no Immigration clause it is an express establishment clause for an uniform rule of naturalization. We should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

United States nationality law - Wikipedia

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The United States nationality law is set out in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (INA) which contains a uniform rule of naturalization of the United States. The 1952 Act sets out the legal requirements for the acquisition and divestiture of U.S. nationality.
The most recent changes to the law were made in 2001.

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 - Wikipedia

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The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (Pub.L. 82–414, 66 Stat. 163, enacted June 27, 1952), also known as the McCarran–Walter Act, codified under Title 8 of the United States Code (8 U.S.C. ch. 12), governs immigration to and citizenship in the United States. It came into effect on June 27, 1952. In 1965 it was replaced by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Before the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, a variety of statutes governed immigration law but were not organized within one body of text.


* Another Infiltration Banter *

No one is illegal - Wikipedia

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[danielpalos]

" Any Presumptive Burden Of Alternative Obligations No Longer Valid - Contrasting 1952 With 1965 At 32 Million Versus 59 Million "

* 32 Million Versus 59 Million *

It is Your right wing insistence on Immigration laws that is creating the problem. We have no Immigration clause it is an express establishment clause for an uniform rule of naturalization. We should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

United States nationality law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The United States nationality law is set out in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (INA) which contains a uniform rule of naturalization of the United States. The 1952 Act sets out the legal requirements for the acquisition and divestiture of U.S. nationality.
The most recent changes to the law were made in 2001.

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (Pub.L. 82–414, 66 Stat. 163, enacted June 27, 1952), also known as the McCarran–Walter Act, codified under Title 8 of the United States Code (8 U.S.C. ch. 12), governs immigration to and citizenship in the United States. It came into effect on June 27, 1952. In 1965 it was replaced by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Before the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, a variety of statutes governed immigration law but were not organized within one body of text.


* Another Infiltration Banter *

No one is illegal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is no appeal to ignorance of express law.

Are our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror real or just fake news, right wing Hoax?

The militia of the State consists of all able-bodied male citizens and all other able-bodied males who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are between the ages of eighteen and forty-five, and who are residents of the State, and of such other persons as may upon their own application be enlisted or commissioned therein pursuant to the provisions of this division, subject, however, to such exemptions as now exist or may be hereafter created by the laws of the United States or of this State.

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,

 

[Unkotare]

Reminder: Anyone born in the US is a US citizen.

 

[laferia52]

" Protections Versus Endowment The Two Are Not The Same "

* Fugitives At Large *

by denying due process of law? only the right wing believes in sacrificing the end to the means.

Due process would determined that the parents are SUBJECTS of their country of origin and NOT SUBJECTS of us as such requires a formal agreement that occurs by means of us legal immigration system and therefore the children of illegal migrants are to be given jus sanguinin - citizenship of their parents .

About those foreign children that remain separated from their parents in the USA. The Truth of the matter is that their parents do not want the USA to send them back to them in their home countries. What these parents want is for the US government to allow them to come to the USA and join their children and let them stay in the USA. Those children are their anchor babies. Their entrance tickets to reenter the USA..There was a report in a Mexican news channel where a 14 yr old boy was returned by US immigration to his father in guatemala. His father was really mad.He stated why did the US send his son to him in Guatemala. He said, why didn't the US government not send his son to his brother living in Houston Tx. These people want the USA to help them transport their children to relatives living illegally in the USA.Biden will do just that.Biden will help Human traffickers transport their human cargo to destinations thru out the USA with his CATCH AND RELEASE. Catch them process them and release them to wait for a court hearing. and they can continue on their way. they will spend years waiting for a new immigration reform where all illegals are given legal status and a path to US citizenship.

 

[Unkotare]

" Trump Challenges Equal Endowment Of Birthright Citizenship For Children Of Illegal Migrants "

President Trump may sign executive order ending birthright citizenship

On Friday, various sources told The Hill that members of the Trump Administration have been discussing the issue with increasing frequency.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Under current law, all babies born in United States are automatically granted citizenship, regardless of whether or not their parents are American. An executive order signed by President Trump would likely put an end to such legal protections.
...
However, the courts have not definitively ruled on the issue.
...
Critics of birthright citizenship oppose the fact that illegal immigrants and visitors to the United States can give birth to children who automatically have American citizenship rights.

Didn't happen. Won't happen.

 

[AZrailwhale]

" As Stated An Ant-Racist Racist Promoting La Raza "

* Attempting Too Fool Know One *
That you are simply helping yourself was not ever a disguised , except there were only 32 million from europe and the world in 400 years prior to 1965 - that includes ellis island , whereas 59 million have arrived since then .

Sovereign countries complant with humanitarian standards and more ethnically native should maintain the well being of those displaced .

Ellis Island was heavily regulated on multiple levels. First, the shipping companies vetted the immigrants because if they were refused entry to the USA, the shipping company had to transport them to their port of origin for free. Potential immigrants were screened for health problems, criminality and availability of sponsors. When the potential immigrants got off the ship, they were screened even more heavily with even minor health problems being cause to refuse them entry and their sponsors had to vouch that the immigrant would never become dependent on the US government. It wasn't easy to get into the USA.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Reminder: Anyone born in the US is a US citizen.

That's the way the law has been interpreted, that can change.

 

[Dragonlady]

That's the way the law has been interpreted, that can change.

Not without a Constitutional Amendment.

 

[Unkotare]

That's the way the law has been interpreted, that can change.

It won't.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Not without a Constitutional Amendment.

Nope all the court has to recognize is that illegal aliens, like current tourists and diplomats (Diplomats and their families are specifically mentioned as NOT being covered) owe allegiance to their home country. By the way, that is the standard for most of the civilized world.

Here is a list of all the countries that allow birthright citizenship:

Antigua and Barbuda
2	Argentina
3	Barbados
4	Belize
5	Bolivia
6	Brazil
7	Canada
8	Chile
9	Cuba
10	Dominica
11	Ecuador
12	El Salvador
13	Fiji
14	Grenada
15	Guatemala
16	Guyana
17	Honduras
18	Jamaica
19	Mexico
20	Nicaragua
21	Panama
22	Paraguay
23	Peru
24	Saint Kitts and Nevis
25	Saint Lucia
26	Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
27	Trinidad and Tobago
28	United States
29	Uruguay
30	Venezuela

You might notice that of the thirty, only Canada and the USA are first world countries.