Trump bombs Iran

[sparky]

The War Powers Act of 1973 requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action. If military action continues, the President must withdraw forces within 60 days unless Congress grants an extension or declares war.

well yes OODA, that was the way it was supposed to work after Tricky Dick & Kissy got busted for bombing Cambodia

they simply changed 'war' to 'conflict'.......~S~

 

[22lcidw]

It’s truly pathological how easily the state and its media can dupe dumb Americans into yet another war. Over and over again, yet you never learn.

I think the leash is short this time around.

 

[yidnar]

30 years and they were only to 60% (at least says the "intel community" and media who have proven themselves serial compulsive liars), which is nowhere near enough to create a bomb....But they were just a couple months away!

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once you get past 60% enrichment it is much easier to get to weapons grade for the bomb ..

Enriching uranium to 60% purity is troubling primarily because it brings a country significantly closer to developing nuclear weapons. Here's a breakdown of why:

• Proximity to Weapons-Grade: For nuclear power generation, uranium is typically enriched to 3-5% U-235. Nuclear weapons, on the other hand, generally require uranium enriched to around 90% U-235 (known as weapons-grade uranium). While 60% is not yet weapons-grade, it's a very short technical step away. Experts indicate that going from 60% to 90% enrichment is considerably easier and faster than going from natural uranium (around 0.7% U-235) to 60%.
  
  
  
  
  
• Lack of Civilian Justification: There's generally no credible civilian justification for enriching uranium to 60%. While some specialized research reactors or naval propulsion reactors might use highly enriched uranium (above 20%), 60% is well beyond what's needed for typical nuclear power plants. This raises strong suspicions that a country pursuing such high enrichment levels has intentions beyond peaceful nuclear energy.
  
  
  
  
• Reduced "Breakout Time": "Breakout time" refers to the time it would take for a country to produce enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb if it decided to do so. Having a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium drastically reduces this time, potentially from months to mere weeks or even days, making it much harder for the international community to intervene and prevent proliferation.
  
  
  
  
  
• Proliferation Risk: The accumulation of 60% enriched uranium by a non-nuclear-weapon state is seen as a serious proliferation risk. It demonstrates a country's advanced enrichment capabilities and its ability to quickly produce the fissile material needed for a nuclear weapon.
  
  

In essence, 60% enriched uranium represents a significant leap towards nuclear weapons capability, signaling a potential shift in a country's nuclear ambitions and raising serious concerns about nuclear proliferation.

 

[Luckyone]

There's nothing quite like the U.S. entering a war to drive home the risks involved in electing a mentally ill person president. Since Israel attacked Iran, Donald Trump, the clearest example of malignant narcissism most of us have ever seen or even heard of, has rampaged about Washington — and, earlier this week, the G7 in Canada — hunting the attention he craves. With Saturday night's attacks by the U.S. on three Iranian nuclear sites, it appears he has gotten it.

There are lots of good reasons for not psychoanalyzing politicians. But when a leader suffering a severe mental illness poses a grave risk to the nation and the world, we can’t just close our eyes. We are in such a moment now.

MSN

“I was elected on getting out of these ridiculous endless wars, where our great Military functions as a policing operation to the benefit of people who don’t even like the USA.”

Let us attempt to stay away from the extremes as all extremes are bad. Yes, Trump does have mental illness in the fact that he is a narcissist but insanity? No, that is a bit too much. He has not been totally insane given that he did win the presidency twice and an insane person cannot accomplish such a feat.

Having said that, the bombing of Iran is a gamble and gambling when president is a very dangerous thing to do because if you lose the gamble, the consequences can be huge and that is not something a president should ever do when the odds are not overwhelming in your favor. To begin with, his own National Intelligence advisor (Tulsi Gabbard) said that Iran was NOT on the verge of building a neutron bomb. As such, Trump followed what Netanyahu/Mossad said and yet they have been saying the same thing for 33 years and have wrong every time.

This means that the bombing of Iran may not have been necessary at this time. Already, Israel had been successful is harming the leadership of Iran and weakening them, meaning they were now more likely to come to the table to discuss a deal.

The bombing of Iran and hoping that the show of force will cause them to cede and come to the table is ridiculous as the Ayatollah and Iran is the definition of insanity and they will not use common sense now and come to the table. They will return the bombing with more attacks but now those attacks will be on U.S. troops and that will bring a war. I though that Trump promised to be a peacekeeper but this action is the furthest thing from peacekeeping as it gets.

In addition, the Ayatollah is no dummy and I would not be surprised if he anticipated this happening and moved secretly their nuclear capability somewhere else, meaning the bombing may have been mostly a waste of time.

I truly do not know what the answer is but one thing I am sure of, this was a gamble on Trump's part and one that can bring serious consequences to everyone. I think that Trump should have waited and seen how Iran reacted to all the bombing from Israel and the death of several of their leaders and not get the U.S. involved now, especially because the information he had was against what our own intelligence people stated.

Trump acted with his balls and not his brains.

 

[Zavulon]

They didn't say that it was only enriched to 60% dummy.

60% is the point where enriched Uranium has no other use than to build a bomb...

Plain lie. The USA and UK use 95% enriched Uranium in their naval reactors.

US study of reactor and fuel types to enable naval reactors to shift from HEU fuel

Alan Kuperman, Frank von Hippel In February 2020, the US Department of Energy's office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation released its report, Initial Evaluation of Fuel-Reactor Concepts for Advanced LEU Fuel Development, a screening study for potential fuel and reactor types...

fissilematerials.org

 

[Oddball]

once you get past 60% enrichment it is much easier to get to weapons grade for the bomb ..

Enriching uranium to 60% purity is troubling primarily because it brings a country significantly closer to developing nuclear weapons. Here's a breakdown of why:

• Proximity to Weapons-Grade: For nuclear power generation, uranium is typically enriched to 3-5% U-235. Nuclear weapons, on the other hand, generally require uranium enriched to around 90% U-235 (known as weapons-grade uranium). While 60% is not yet weapons-grade, it's a very short technical step away. Experts indicate that going from 60% to 90% enrichment is considerably easier and faster than going from natural uranium (around 0.7% U-235) to 60%.
  
  
  
  
  
• Lack of Civilian Justification: There's generally no credible civilian justification for enriching uranium to 60%. While some specialized research reactors or naval propulsion reactors might use highly enriched uranium (above 20%), 60% is well beyond what's needed for typical nuclear power plants. This raises strong suspicions that a country pursuing such high enrichment levels has intentions beyond peaceful nuclear energy.
  
  
  
  
• Reduced "Breakout Time": "Breakout time" refers to the time it would take for a country to produce enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb if it decided to do so. Having a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium drastically reduces this time, potentially from months to mere weeks or even days, making it much harder for the international community to intervene and prevent proliferation.
  
  
  
  
  
• Proliferation Risk: The accumulation of 60% enriched uranium by a non-nuclear-weapon state is seen as a serious proliferation risk. It demonstrates a country's advanced enrichment capabilities and its ability to quickly produce the fissile material needed for a nuclear weapon.

In essence, 60% enriched uranium represents a significant leap towards nuclear weapons capability, signaling a potential shift in a country's nuclear ambitions and raising serious concerns about nuclear proliferation.

That's still not "JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY!"

The entire thing, from the contrived "60 days of negotiations" to the "well, maybe two more weeks" has been a giant ruse to get at what the Likuds wanted all along.

 

[Zavulon]

once you get past 60% enrichment it is much easier to get to weapons grade for the bomb ..

Enriching uranium to 60% purity is troubling primarily because it brings a country significantly closer to developing nuclear weapons. Here's a breakdown of why:

• Proximity to Weapons-Grade: For nuclear power generation, uranium is typically enriched to 3-5% U-235. Nuclear weapons, on the other hand, generally require uranium enriched to around 90% U-235 (known as weapons-grade uranium). While 60% is not yet weapons-grade, it's a very short technical step away. Experts indicate that going from 60% to 90% enrichment is considerably easier and faster than going from natural uranium (around 0.7% U-235) to 60%.
  
  
  
  
  
• Lack of Civilian Justification: There's generally no credible civilian justification for enriching uranium to 60%. While some specialized research reactors or naval propulsion reactors might use highly enriched uranium (above 20%), 60% is well beyond what's needed for typical nuclear power plants. This raises strong suspicions that a country pursuing such high enrichment levels has intentions beyond peaceful nuclear energy.
  
  
  
  
• Reduced "Breakout Time": "Breakout time" refers to the time it would take for a country to produce enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb if it decided to do so. Having a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium drastically reduces this time, potentially from months to mere weeks or even days, making it much harder for the international community to intervene and prevent proliferation.
  
  
  
  
  
• Proliferation Risk: The accumulation of 60% enriched uranium by a non-nuclear-weapon state is seen as a serious proliferation risk. It demonstrates a country's advanced enrichment capabilities and its ability to quickly produce the fissile material needed for a nuclear weapon.
  

In essence, 60% enriched uranium represents a significant leap towards nuclear weapons capability, signaling a potential shift in a country's nuclear ambitions and raising serious concerns about nuclear proliferation.

This stupid thing just parroting official journalistic BS.
Read actual sources.

US study of reactor and fuel types to enable naval reactors to shift from HEU fuel

Alan Kuperman, Frank von Hippel In February 2020, the US Department of Energy's office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation released its report, Initial Evaluation of Fuel-Reactor Concepts for Advanced LEU Fuel Development, a screening study for potential fuel and reactor types...

fissilematerials.org

 

[Nostra]

There's nothing quite like the U.S. entering a war to drive home the risks involved in electing a mentally ill person president. Since Israel attacked Iran, Donald Trump, the clearest example of malignant narcissism most of us have ever seen or even heard of, has rampaged about Washington — and, earlier this week, the G7 in Canada — hunting the attention he craves. With Saturday night's attacks by the U.S. on three Iranian nuclear sites, it appears he has gotten it.

There are lots of good reasons for not psychoanalyzing politicians. But when a leader suffering a severe mental illness poses a grave risk to the nation and the world, we can’t just close our eyes. We are in such a moment now.

MSN

“I was elected on getting out of these ridiculous endless wars, where our great Military functions as a policing operation to the benefit of people who don’t even like the USA.”

Trump taking out the Dimwinger’s heroes nukes will produce the most pissy pants threads in the past year.

 

[gipper]

I think the leash is short this time around.

I doubt it. Too many are gullible. This constant intervention by our government should have stopped entirely after Vietnam.

Apparently for some Americans, non-stop war is natural. $37 trillion in debt and millions in or near poverty, means nothing. War is the American Way like baseball and apple pie.

 

[Nostra]

It was an "act of war", and you have absolutely no way of knowing if this will be a "single strategic operation", or an expansion of a regional conflict into WWIII. The world is in no way safer today than yesterday. In fact, the opposite is true.

The greater risk is that Iran will feel the need to "retaliate" against the USA as they are already doing in Israel. The Iranian people are demanding "retribution" and you don't control the Iranian people or their leaders, so you cannot realistically claim this won't lead to wider hostilities. Trump saying "it's over" is meaningless because he doesn't control what Iran will decide.

The only way the world would have been "safer" today, is if this attack had never happened.

This clown thinks a world where nutbag Mullahs who say they will destroy the US and Israel have nukes to use for that is safer than Iran without nukes.

What a dumbass.

 

[SweetSue92]

It’s horrifying to hear how leftists twist themselves into a pretzel to defend the Islamic Terrorist Regime while simultaneously spreading lies and antisemitic propaganda against Jews.

It's so incomprehensible that it is only explained this way: it is demonic

 

[dudmuck]

You're right. Who doesn't want Iran to have nuclear bombs. Obama and Biden sure did.

six other countries along with Obama, had an agreement with Iran that preventing them from developing the bomb.

that was 2016, but then Trump in his first term, let Iran make the bomb.

 

[TimFitz]

So much for Iran having a nuke.

After this, it is no longer a question of if Iran will have the bomb, but when.

 

[JoeB131]

once you get past 60% enrichment it is much easier to get to weapons grade for the bomb ..

Enriching uranium to 60% purity is troubling primarily because it brings a country significantly closer to developing nuclear weapons. Here's a breakdown of why:

• Proximity to Weapons-Grade: For nuclear power generation, uranium is typically enriched to 3-5% U-235. Nuclear weapons, on the other hand, generally require uranium enriched to around 90% U-235 (known as weapons-grade uranium). While 60% is not yet weapons-grade, it's a very short technical step away. Experts indicate that going from 60% to 90% enrichment is considerably easier and faster than going from natural uranium (around 0.7% U-235) to 60%.
  
  
  
  
  
• Lack of Civilian Justification: There's generally no credible civilian justification for enriching uranium to 60%. While some specialized research reactors or naval propulsion reactors might use highly enriched uranium (above 20%), 60% is well beyond what's needed for typical nuclear power plants. This raises strong suspicions that a country pursuing such high enrichment levels has intentions beyond peaceful nuclear energy.
  
  
  
  
• Reduced "Breakout Time": "Breakout time" refers to the time it would take for a country to produce enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb if it decided to do so. Having a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium drastically reduces this time, potentially from months to mere weeks or even days, making it much harder for the international community to intervene and prevent proliferation.
  
  
  
  
  
• Proliferation Risk: The accumulation of 60% enriched uranium by a non-nuclear-weapon state is seen as a serious proliferation risk. It demonstrates a country's advanced enrichment capabilities and its ability to quickly produce the fissile material needed for a nuclear weapon.
  

In essence, 60% enriched uranium represents a significant leap towards nuclear weapons capability, signaling a potential shift in a country's nuclear ambitions and raising serious concerns about nuclear proliferation.

Guy, we've been hearing the Zionists make this claim for 30 years now.

There's no evidence that Iran was making a bomb, and it's just not a big deal if they get one because everyone else has them, anyway.

 

[TimFitz]

I thought Trump “always chickens out”?

Isn’t this what you all wanted?

LOL

The whole world wanted Trump to chicken out.

Now he has started a war.

And I see Trumpster echoing their fuhrer and declaring that nothing else will happen and dismissing the idea of repercussions.

The same fools made the same claims in 2003.

 

[Blaster]

After this, it is no longer a question of if Iran will have the bomb, but when.

Nonsense.

 

[Blaster]

The whole world wanted Trump to chicken out.

Now he has started a war.

And I see Trumpster echoing their fuhrer and declaring that nothing else will happen and dismissing the idea of repercussions.

The same fools made the same claims in 2003.

 

[eagle1462010]

Clearly you don't "get it" at all. You're actually CLUELESS in this regard.

Oh he gets it.

8 years of TDS we understand tjese posts are from Mentally ill people

 

[TimFitz]

In other words…genius.


But you’ll never give him credit.

Oh, we will definately ‘“give him credit” for involving the US in a shooting war in the Middle East.

We will hang it around his stupid neck.

 

[Blaster]

Oh, we will definately ‘“give him credit” for involving the US in a shooting war in the Middle East.

We will hang it around his stupid neck.

There are no US boots on the ground retard.