Trump attacking Iran took courage

[Marener]

I have already pointed out that this is incorrect.

Leftists are licking their chops for it to blow up in his face and win the midterms

In fact, they are already talking about impeaching him for it.

I didn’t see any argument about how it’s “incorrect”. What you said, that he won reelection despite investigations revealing criminal actions, only confirms my point.

Does Trump care about the midterms? I doubt it. Does he care about “talk” of impeachment? Nope.

There’s no downside here.

 

[Zincwarrior]

A bit early, but I will have to give the Trump administration kudos at this point.

 

[22lcidw]

Bone Spurs, the guy who dodged service during the Vietnam War, courage? Who knows what might have happened if the folks at Faux were against the strike?

At the same time, the president’s team was closely monitoring how their most prominent supporters were reacting on social media and on television to the prospect of the United States joining the war in a more visible way.

They paid close attention to the statements of Tucker Carlson, the influential podcaster and former Fox News host, who was vehemently opposed to the United States joining Israel in taking on Iran. Mr. Trump became infuriated by some of Mr. Carlson’s commentary and started complaining about him publicly and privately.

Political advisers to Mr. Trump had been swapping notes on various public and private polls examining the popularity of military action against Iran, noting that American support for an operation depended in part on how pollsters asked the question. While polls showed that an overwhelming majority of Americans did not want the United States to go to war with Iran, most Americans also did not want Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon.

The president was closely monitoring Fox News, which was airing wall-to-wall praise of Israel’s military operation and featuring guests urging Mr. Trump to get more involved. Several Trump advisers lamented the fact that Mr. Carlson was no longer on Fox, which meant that Mr. Trump was not hearing much of the other side of the debate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/politics/trump-iran-decision-strikes.html

We are having rises and falls in opinions varying on all sides. No politician is going to get all citizens behind him/her to have a massive war with our military on the ground in huge numbers. All of the war hawks get there. Get in front of the lines if we do a war. No matter your age.

 

[Votto]

I didn’t see any argument about how it’s “incorrect”. What you said, that he won reelection despite investigations revealing criminal actions, only confirms my point.

Does Trump care about the midterms? I doubt it. Does he care about “talk” of impeachment? Nope.

There’s no downside here.

So, Trump does not care if he has to undergo impeachment after impeachment, with no hope of ever passing legislation in Congress again?

 

[Votto]

We are having rises and falls in opinions varying on all sides. No politician is going to get all citizens behind him/her to have a massive war with our military on the ground in huge numbers. All of the war hawks get there. Get in front of the lines if we do a war. No matter your age.

Trump is neither with the warmongers or the pacifists.

Trump does what he think is "smart".

He has no ideology to defend.

I am not saying he is always right.

 

[Marener]

So, Trump does not care if he has to undergo impeachment after impeachment, with no hope of ever passing legislation in Congress again?

Trump doesn't care about passing legislation and never has. He'll get a reconciliation bill this session with what he wants for the next few years and do the rest by executive action.

As for "undergoing" impeachment, why would he care? It's not like he's ever going to be convicted. It's meaningless.

 

[Votto]

Trump doesn't care about passing legislation and never has. He'll get a reconciliation bill this session with what he wants for the next few years and do the rest by executive action.

As for "undergoing" impeachment, why would he care? It's not like he's ever going to be convicted. It's meaningless.

No, this conflict actually endangers the passage of the bill he so desperately wants, idiot.

You just proved my point.

This whole thread is not to say Trump is always right, no one is. This thread is to show that people can have such a deep hatred of others that they are either unable or unwilling to acknowledge their strengths.

 

[22lcidw]

Trump is neither with the warmongers or the pacifists.

Trump does what he think is "smart".

He has no ideology to defend.

I am not saying he is always right.

I do not either. When we do things like this, it is based on trust of others involved. Trump perhaps should not have been so congratulatory so quickly. He even called the Iranian response "weak". Of course, all of this can end up successful.

 

[Marener]

No, this conflict actually endangers the passage of the bill he so desperately wants, idiot.

You just proved my point.

This whole thread is not to say Trump is always right, no one is. This thread is to show that people can have such a deep hatred of others that they are either unable or unwilling to acknowledge their strengths.

There's no relationship this conflict and the passage of the bill.

My point, which you've been unable to address, is that Trump has been immunized from consequences. When has he ever paid a price for acting wrongly?

 

[Votto]

There's no relationship this conflict and the passage of the bill.

My point, which you've been unable to address, is that Trump has been immunized from consequences. When has he ever paid a price for acting wrongly?

Sure there is. It deflects away from the passage of the bill as those in Congress may feel more like impeaching Trump than passing one the legislation he so desperately wants to pass.

You really are grasping at straws here.

You would be better off to try and say Trump is either stupid or crazy.

 

[22lcidw]

There's no relationship this conflict and the passage of the bill.

My point, which you've been unable to address, is that Trump has been immunized from consequences. When has he ever paid a price for acting wrongly?

Get through the endless lists of others first. Including the Progressives. You got him elected.

 

[Marener]

Sure there is. It deflects away from the passage of the bill as those in Congress may feel more like impeaching Trump than passing one the legislation he so desperately wants to pass.

You really are grasping at straws here.

There's absolutely no chance that he's getting impeached any time this session. Do you not know who the Speaker of the House is? Trump controls Congress.

You're the one grasping at straws.

 

[jackflash]

Anytime one engages in a military conflict they are taking risks as a rule. So, what were the risks Trump was taking? He is now faced with the notion that he and his immediate family will forever be at risk for assassination from Iran. In fact, they were after Trump for assassinating an Iranian general that was known for killing Americans in the Middle East during his first term. But now I think the risk has exponentially increased, not just for Trump but for his family as well.

Secondly, you don't know the repercussions in terms of a response. Will they use a WMD now of some sort against you or use sleeper cells in your country to be activated or some sort of other diabolical reaction.

But lastly, there are the political repercussions, especially before a midterm election that you simply have to win or your whole Presidency will get shot down into impeachment mode 24/7 as we saw the last time he lost the midterms to the DNC.

Because of this, I believe Trump believed they were on the verge of having nuclear weapons, or he would have at least waited till after the midterms to avoid the risk of losing the midterms because of it.

Right or wrong, it took courage

U R correct about courage & pres. Trump. Islam has long been recognized as a front for terrorism. In reality all major religions eventually seem to end up with a power & control(terrorism) element operating in the not so obvious background. There also appears to be an invisible "CONNECTING LINK" between these major religions regarding terrorism, eg. the communalist left students in our America rioting on campus along side islamos that are carrying swastika(hakenkreuz in German) placards. So much for any difference in politically induced power & control/terrorism ideologies! What I am getting @ is a high visibility profile such as a president will ALWAYS be a major TARGET of interest for ANY of the terrorist organizations, whether a president is in or out of elected office, ESPECIALLY a POTUS that backs individual rights/Liberties.

 

[Votto]

There's absolutely no chance that he's getting impeached any time this session. Do you not know who the Speaker of the House is? Trump controls Congress.

You're the one grasping at straws.

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), who introduced a bipartisan resolution earlier this week to check Trump’s power as he was weighing a decision to strike Iran, was in the former camp.

Early reaction shows Republicans split over Trump's decision to bomb Iran

Congressional Republicans first to react to President Donald Trump's decision to attack Iranian nuclear sites were divided over the bombing, with some

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Do you think Massie is now more or less likely to vote for Trump's big beautiful bill?

 

[Marener]

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), who introduced a bipartisan resolution earlier this week to check Trump’s power as he was weighing a decision to strike Iran, was in the former camp.

Early reaction shows Republicans split over Trump's decision to bomb Iran

Congressional Republicans first to react to President Donald Trump's decision to attack Iranian nuclear sites were divided over the bombing, with some

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Do you think Massie is now more or less likely to vote for Trump's big beautiful bill?

I think Massie is just as likely to vote for the bill now than he ever has. There would be actual consequences for Massie if he stands in the way of passing popular tax cuts.

 

[Hector12]

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If strength guarantees peace, how did we get involved in wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Afghanistan?

 

[irosie91]

If strength guarantees peace, how did we get involved in wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Afghanistan?

it works NORE OR LESS

 

[jc456]

Trump risked his entire presidency, on a conflict half way around the world. This is the difference between a president for the people and a wormy rat politician mostly concerned about their own re-election or legacy. Or in the case of Hospice Joe, a clown who needs 8 naps a day and lets unelected morons run things day to day.

it's what a leader does, doesn't worry about repercussions.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Obama attacked Libya, Syria, and Iraq. Lefties, show the posts you made critical of him.

 

[konradv]

Anytime one engages in a military conflict they are taking risks as a rule. So, what were the risks Trump was taking? He is now faced with the notion that he and his immediate family will forever be at risk for assassination from Iran. In fact, they were after Trump for assassinating an Iranian general that was known for killing Americans in the Middle East during his first term. But now I think the risk has exponentially increased, not just for Trump but for his family as well.

Secondly, you don't know the repercussions in terms of a response. Will they use a WMD now of some sort against you or use sleeper cells in your country to be activated or some sort of other diabolical reaction.

But lastly, there are the political repercussions, especially before a midterm election that you simply have to win or your whole Presidency will get shot down into impeachment mode 24/7 as we saw the last time he lost the midterms to the DNC.

Because of this, I believe Trump believed they were on the verge of having nuclear weapons, or he would have at least waited till after the midterms to avoid the risk of losing the midterms because of it.

Right or wrong, it took courage

It took courage for our military personnel. Trump is a coward.