Trump admits he set President Biden up for failure with the Afghanistan withdrawal...

[OKTexas]

There was no fucking blueprint

Stop lying commie, Trump wasn't going to give up Bagram, xiden abandoned it first thing. That put thousands more terrorist back in the fight.

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[Lone Wanderer]

Nonsense. You don’t take busted up trucks and humvees. You get PEOPLE out

And Biden did

If that's your argument, then they missed a lot of Americans and Afghani allies.

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump did sign the agreement that led to the withdrawal, but he had wanted to execute the withdrawal during his time in office.

They bragged about it being a conditional withdrawal when they signed it. Why then did the Benedict Donald withdraw 80 % of our troops and forced the military to comply with all eight of our conditions while allowing the Taliban to only comply with one of their seven conditions? That all happened within the Doha Accords time table of 135 days. Except for the extra troop withdrawals by Benedict throughout the rest of 2020. How was Biden suppose to put that Genie back in bottle so to speak? All the candy in the candy store has been given away.........

 

[Lesh]

Stop lying commie, Trump wasn't going to give up Bagram, xiden abandoned it first thing. That put thousands more terrorist back in the fight.

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Trump released FIVE THOUSAND!!!

 

[Blisterfinger]

Ever read a history book?
Ever pick up a history book?
Of course not.

Rushed? 20 years is rushed? Do you know how stupid you sound?

Indeed, there is ignorance noted here but it sure as hell is not mine.

Most people agree that it was a rushed disastrous chaotic withdrawal. Maybe you should study up on it, take a class Maybe. An ignorant mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Analysis: Biden's botched Afghan exit is a disaster at home and abroad long in the making

The debacle of the US defeat and chaotic retreat in Afghanistan is a political disaster for Joe Biden, whose failure to orchestrate an urgent and orderly exit will further rock a presidency plagued by crises and stain his legacy.

www.cnn.com

 

[BlindBoo]

Do you really think they would incriminate themselves? I'm sure there are any number of excuses they have for their actions, but the truth remains.

First on CNN: US left behind $7 billion of military equipment in Afghanistan after 2021 withdrawal, Pentagon report says | CNN Politics

Approximately $7 billion of military equipment the US transferred to the Afghan government over the course of 16 years was left behind in Afghanistan after the US completed its withdrawal from the country in August, according to a congressionally mandated report from the US Department of Defense...

www.cnn.com

Holey Smokes. Do you even read what you post?

"Approximately $7 billion of military equipment the US transferred to the Afghan government over the course of 16 years was left behind in Afghanistan......"

Which, oddly enough, was just part of my point.

 

[Lesh]

Stop lying commie, Trump wasn't going to give up Bagram, xiden abandoned it first thing. That put thousands more terrorist back in the fight.

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So give us a link to this “blueprint”

 

[Kruska]

Vietnam is precisely what this withdrawal was compared to, because of how much worse it was than most other withdrawals.

The Vietnam withdrawal in regards to US equipment was FAR MORE WORSE - then what the Taliban got their hands on.

Maybe you should read up the list about the US equipment left with the ARVN??

The one who initiated this "unacceptable" Afghan pullout was - solely Trump - since the arrogant scumbag, didn't even deem it necessary to involve the Afghan government nor the US allies. And he simply ignored every single breach by the Taliban - because he doesn't give a shit about the USA, neither it's loss of respect, nor towards the consequences of "handing over all this stuff" to the Taliban - as such again endangering the USA and all others.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

As many of us have been saying for years. the Afghanistan thing was set up to make Joe Biden look bad,

An impossible problem with impossible goals on an impossible timeline. All set up by trump, who finally admits it on video.

We all know Trump deliberately set up Biden.

 

[Lone Wanderer]

They bragged about it being a conditional withdrawal when they signed it. Why then did the Benedict Donald withdraw 80 % of our troops and forced the military to comply with all eight of our conditions while allowing the Taliban to only comply with one of their seven conditions? That all happened within the Doha Accords time table of 135 days. Except for the extra troop withdrawals by Benedict throughout the rest of 2020. How was Biden suppose to put that Genie back in bottle so to speak? All the candy in the candy store has been given away.........

The biggest mistake made in the agreement is that it was not done with the government of Afghanistan at the time. So, that much you can blame on Trump, since it led to problems later regarding things like prisoner exchanges.

If Trump had been re-elected, there is surely a chance that things could have ended up the same way as they did with Biden, but ultimately, a president can only be blamed for what happens during his presidency, not what happens long after his exit. Otherwise, what are you voting for to begin with?

 

[Lone Wanderer]

Holey Smokes. Do you even read what you post?

"Approximately $7 billion of military equipment the US transferred to the Afghan government over the course of 16 years was left behind in Afghanistan......"

Which was, oddly enough, was just part of my point.

I'm not saying that Biden is to blame for what happened over 16 years, but you can certainly question why he wouldn't attempt to get some of it back if the situation was one where the Afghan government looked likely to fall. From that perspective, I suppose you could say that neither Trump nor Biden learned anything from Vietnam.

 

[BlindBoo]

Vietnam is precisely what this withdrawal was compared to, because of how much worse it was than most other withdrawals.

It was not a good comparison. It is what the pundits expected. The US supplied South Vietnam actually fought for a while. You see we withdrew our combat troops before the South lost their civil war. The outcome was nearly the same. That is they capture lots of US made weapons from the South and they marketed them across the globe when they could. Especially to Iran after the Shah was overthrown.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump released FIVE THOUSAND!!!

With the full knowledge that if any of our soldiers were hurt, he was going to introduce the taliban leaders to hell fire missiles.

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[noonereal]

Some equipment is left behind, but not on the scale that was present in Afghanistan. Keep trying to blame Trump's troop numbers though.

Facts are facts and hopefully you learned from my posts.

 

[noonereal]

Most people agree that it was a rushed disastrous chaotic withdrawal. Maybe you should study up on it, take a class Maybe. An ignorant mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Analysis: Biden's botched Afghan exit is a disaster at home and abroad long in the making

The debacle of the US defeat and chaotic retreat in Afghanistan is a political disaster for Joe Biden, whose failure to orchestrate an urgent and orderly exit will further rock a presidency plagued by crises and stain his legacy.

www.cnn.com

And most people were dead wrong.
MSM murder him on this. Maga Media murder him on this.
It was dead wrong to do.

 

[Lone Wanderer]

The Vietnam withdrawal in regards to US equipment was FAR MORE WORSE - then what the Taliban got their hands on.

Maybe you should read up the list about the US equipment left with the ARVN??

The one who initiated this "unacceptable" Afghan pullout was - solely Trump - since the arrogant scumbag, didn't even deem it necessary to involve the Afghan government nor the US allies. And he simply ignored every single breach by the Taliban - because he doesn't give a shit about the USA, neither it's loss of respect, nor towards the consequences of "handing over all this stuff" to the Taliban - as such again endangering the USA and all others.

Hold on a minute. If the situation was as you say, then why didn't Biden reverse course? If you want to say that withdrawal itself was a mistake, then Biden did have the option of ending the agreement. The withdrawal ended in September 2021. That's several months where Biden could have decided to reverse course. That doesn't vindicate Trump, but given your argument here, Biden could have chosen to scrap the agreement since the Taliban wasn't holding up their part of the deal. The additional leverage out of this was that the Afghani government wasn't officially involved in the agreement.

 

[Kruska]

Trump released FIVE THOUSAND!!!

Which the Afghan government REFUSED to - till Trump pressured, forced them to do so.

 

[BlindBoo]

The biggest mistake made in the agreement is that it was not done with the government of Afghanistan at the time. So, that much you can blame on Trump, since it led to problems later regarding things like prisoner exchanges.

If Trump had been re-elected, there is surely a chance that things could have ended up the same way as they did with Biden, but ultimately, a president can only be blamed for what happens during his presidency, not what happens long after his exit. Otherwise, what are you voting for to begin with?

Well yeah, that was one of the problems, excluding one of the participants of the war. The biggest problem to me was there was no truce or talks started between the Taliban and the Afghans, which was one of the first items in the Accords. They should have started in Mid March 2020. The Taliban only honored the truce with US and our EU allies, they never honored one with the Afghan Army and they never started the peace talks. They didn't fully comply with any of the other conditions. Trump still reduced the troop count on the Accords 135 day schedule. He reduce that number (8,600) by over 6,000 before the end of his term.

 

[Lesh]

With the full knowledge that if any of our soldiers were hurt, he was going to introduce the taliban leaders to hell fire missiles.

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Well it happened. Turns out it was a seriously flawed decision

 

[OKTexas]

So give us a link to this “blueprint”

Afghan conflict: Trump hails deal with Taliban to end 18-year war

The US president says 5,000 troops will leave Afghanistan by May and he will meet Taliban leaders.

www.bbc.com

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