To Those On The Left: Why Are You Voting For Biden?

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Biden has been in elected office for what 50 years? Yes, we know who he is.
I don’t see how progressives and liberals vote for Joe, since his record clearly reveals him to be a conservative. However the MSM has inflamed these people to such an extent, that anyone is better than Trump in their minds.
With veterans calling Trump Benedict Donald in ads it's hard to put all the blame on media. Republicans are coming out in droves badmouthing Liar in Chief and you are blaming MSM.
You’ll get no argument from me but to think Biden will do better, is deluding yourself. He will be different surely, but no better.
 
I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
 

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My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.
LL would vote for Hitler over Trump.
 
The moderate centrists have us in at least 5 wars. 26 trillion in debt. A an every growing wealth gap. What exactly there appeals to you?

Again, and the Socialists would have done better, how?

Bernie didn't support the stupid wars. Better. That alone would have been a major improvement.

The reason why we are 26 Trillion in debt. We want government to do all this stuff, and we don't want to pay the taxes for it. That is on both parties, but more importantly, that's on US.

And you don't think Bernie would raise taxes to pay for things? He stated how he would pay for his programs.

As far as wars, not sure which five you are counting, but every war that's happened in my lifetime, people were enthusiastically for when they started. I know in year 19 of Operation How Do We Get Out of This Gracefully, there's no enthusiasm for a war most of us have forgotten is still going on, but when this shit started, when the twin towers fell, everyone was all for it.

People were not behind Libya, Yemen or Syria. They are not for an endless occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq (which people were lied into getting behind)
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Biden has been in elected office for what 50 years? Yes, we know who he is.
I don’t see how progressives and liberals vote for Joe, since his record clearly reveals him to be a conservative. However the MSM has inflamed these people to such an extent, that anyone is better than Trump in their minds.
With veterans calling Trump Benedict Donald in ads it's hard to put all the blame on media. Republicans are coming out in droves badmouthing Liar in Chief and you are blaming MSM.

And Democrats are coming out to counter him on bringing the troops home.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.
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He's been running since 1988. It's almost like the Democrats want to give him a consolation prize.
 
Just having Biden elected would be an indication that this ugly, temporary madness is over.

That. I'll just take that. That would be enough. That's how fucking low my standards are now.
The thing is the ugliness won’t be over. It will just be different, but still ugly.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Biden has been in elected office for what 50 years? Yes, we know who he is.
I don’t see how progressives and liberals vote for Joe, since his record clearly reveals him to be a conservative. However the MSM has inflamed these people to such an extent, that anyone is better than Trump in their minds.
With veterans calling Trump Benedict Donald in ads it's hard to put all the blame on media. Republicans are coming out in droves badmouthing Liar in Chief and you are blaming MSM.

And Democrats are coming out to counter him on bringing the troops home.
Which Democrats are countering bringing home troops? Who has a workable plan? Benedict Donald talks about it but only in a bullshit kind of way. Currently, he is using the Russian assassination plan.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

I can't say I ever heard him state the differences. Why is Bernie endorsing him? He doesn't want to get blamed if he loses. I would prefer he didn't but it's not a major issue as his endorsement doesn't mean all that much.

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.

Being that you are so evasive it gives people pause to wonder what else you would support. You still haven't answered a single question I asked you.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Biden has been in elected office for what 50 years? Yes, we know who he is.
I don’t see how progressives and liberals vote for Joe, since his record clearly reveals him to be a conservative. However the MSM has inflamed these people to such an extent, that anyone is better than Trump in their minds.
With veterans calling Trump Benedict Donald in ads it's hard to put all the blame on media. Republicans are coming out in droves badmouthing Liar in Chief and you are blaming MSM.

And Democrats are coming out to counter him on bringing the troops home.
Which Democrats are countering bringing home troops? Who has a workable plan? Benedict Donald talks about it but only in a bullshit kind of way. Currently, he is using the Russian assassination plan.

Do you not pay attention to what is going on?

House overwhelmingly votes bipartisan condemnation of Trump withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria

A workable plan? Bring them home.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

I can't say I ever heard him state the differences. Why is Bernie endorsing him? He doesn't want to get blamed if he loses. I would prefer he didn't but it's not a major issue as his endorsement doesn't mean all that much.

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.

Being that you are so evasive it gives people pause to wonder what else you would support. You still haven't answered a single question I asked you.

I’m sorry. What question have you asked?
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Biden has been in elected office for what 50 years? Yes, we know who he is.
I don’t see how progressives and liberals vote for Joe, since his record clearly reveals him to be a conservative. However the MSM has inflamed these people to such an extent, that anyone is better than Trump in their minds.
With veterans calling Trump Benedict Donald in ads it's hard to put all the blame on media. Republicans are coming out in droves badmouthing Liar in Chief and you are blaming MSM.

And Democrats are coming out to counter him on bringing the troops home.
Which Democrats are countering bringing home troops? Who has a workable plan? Benedict Donald talks about it but only in a bullshit kind of way. Currently, he is using the Russian assassination plan.

Do you not pay attention to what is going on?

House overwhelmingly votes bipartisan condemnation of Trump withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria

A workable plan? Bring them home.
Yet another good example of how the two parties are aligned.

My guess is Joe will have us in a big war very quickly.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

I can't say I ever heard him state the differences. Why is Bernie endorsing him? He doesn't want to get blamed if he loses. I would prefer he didn't but it's not a major issue as his endorsement doesn't mean all that much.

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.

Being that you are so evasive it gives people pause to wonder what else you would support. You still haven't answered a single question I asked you.

I’m sorry. What question have you asked?

I'm not going to go round and round with your evasion. You know what I (and others) have asked.
 
My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.
Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.
Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.
Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

I can't say I ever heard him state the differences. Why is Bernie endorsing him? He doesn't want to get blamed if he loses. I would prefer he didn't but it's not a major issue as his endorsement doesn't mean all that much.

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.

Being that you are so evasive it gives people pause to wonder what else you would support. You still haven't answered a single question I asked you.
Bernie has proven himself a fraud. He folded up against Hillary knowing full well she, the DNC, and MSM cheated him. Then he did it again with Biden, after Ears intervened by getting candidates to drop out that would have taken votes from Joe, but didn’t touch Warren who pulled votes from Bernie.

Then he didn’t oppose the CARES act which once again transferred wealth to the 1%.
 
At 86 years of age I have to say this election presents the weakest two main choices for potus by far. And people are falling over themselves to support their guy. Unreal.
 
He’s sincere. He’s empathetic. He knows policy. He works across the aisle. He’ll surround himself with — AND LISTEN TO — advisers who will work for the people, not the President. He’ll listen to experts, not his gut. He won’t try to take away health insurance for millions of Americans. He won’t suck up to Putin, or any other dictator. He won’t tweet whatever pops into his head at all hours of the night. He won’t gas peaceful protesters. He’s not racist.

And most importantly, HE’S NOT DONALD J TRUMP.
 
Wow ....

Interesting thread.

No Leftist can give a real reason why they would vote for Biden other than pure emotional chaos.

I think this truly defines the America we live in today.

It clearly proves that those who support the Left are emotional unstable.
 

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