gipper
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You’ll get no argument from me but to think Biden will do better, is deluding yourself. He will be different surely, but no better.With veterans calling Trump Benedict Donald in ads it's hard to put all the blame on media. Republicans are coming out in droves badmouthing Liar in Chief and you are blaming MSM.I don’t see how progressives and liberals vote for Joe, since his record clearly reveals him to be a conservative. However the MSM has inflamed these people to such an extent, that anyone is better than Trump in their minds.No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:Which party are we talking about?I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?
But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.
If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.
The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?
The one you say you want to work on.
1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.
We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.
Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!
The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.
No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.
2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.
As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.
3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.
Too bad the party overall doesn't.
I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.
I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.
I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.
I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".
Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.
Biden has been in elected office for what 50 years? Yes, we know who he is.