Christ-Mass is of no concern for Protestants, why do you even

Mass is a celebration of the last supper, Penelope.

And Christmas came after Christ-Mass and of course it was made a national holiday instead of the winter solstice, the birth of the infant baby boy called Jesus. At this period of time, Christianity was the only recognized and legal religion in the Roman Empire. (not protestant)
What does that have to do with you stating that the Mass is the death of Christ?

It isn't. Mass is a celebration of the last supper.

sheeeesh-----the issue is new to me-----WHAT DOES "mass" mean in Latin (or greek) ???
ANYONE? I seem to VAGUELY recall that the term "mass" comes up in other contexts
in catholic lingo ----like related to other holidays
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
 
And Christmas came after Christ-Mass and of course it was made a national holiday instead of the winter solstice, the birth of the infant baby boy called Jesus. At this period of time, Christianity was the only recognized and legal religion in the Roman Empire. (not protestant)
What does that have to do with you stating that the Mass is the death of Christ?

It isn't. Mass is a celebration of the last supper.

sheeeesh-----the issue is new to me-----WHAT DOES "mass" mean in Latin (or greek) ???
ANYONE? I seem to VAGUELY recall that the term "mass" comes up in other contexts
in catholic lingo ----like related to other holidays
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.
 
What does that have to do with you stating that the Mass is the death of Christ?

It isn't. Mass is a celebration of the last supper.

sheeeesh-----the issue is new to me-----WHAT DOES "mass" mean in Latin (or greek) ???
ANYONE? I seem to VAGUELY recall that the term "mass" comes up in other contexts
in catholic lingo ----like related to other holidays
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

Its the only part of the bible Protestants do not take literally.

One online blogger pointed to the red bacterium, Serratia marcescens, as a possible explanation.

According to Microbe Zoo, a website developed by the Center for Microbial Ecology at Michigan State University, the bacterium grows on bread and Communion wafers that have been stored in a damp place.

The site goes so far as to cite Serratia marcescens as the probable cause of the bloodlike substance that a priest discovered on Communion bread in 1263, referred to as “The Miracle of Bolsena.”

Archdiocese: Communion host turned blood-red due to fungus, not miracle – Twin Cities

They actually did believe this in olden days.
 
What does that have to do with you stating that the Mass is the death of Christ?

It isn't. Mass is a celebration of the last supper.

sheeeesh-----the issue is new to me-----WHAT DOES "mass" mean in Latin (or greek) ???
ANYONE? I seem to VAGUELY recall that the term "mass" comes up in other contexts
in catholic lingo ----like related to other holidays
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
 
sheeeesh-----the issue is new to me-----WHAT DOES "mass" mean in Latin (or greek) ???
ANYONE? I seem to VAGUELY recall that the term "mass" comes up in other contexts
in catholic lingo ----like related to other holidays
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
I believe it would be best to follow the example of Christ. He was not sprinkled. He went INTO the water to be baptized and was immersed into the water.
 
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
I believe it would be best to follow the example of Christ. He was not sprinkled. He went INTO the water to be baptized and was immersed into the water.


yes----that is how a MIKVEH is done-------FULLY IMMERSED in living water----- what else is new?
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I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
I believe it would be best to follow the example of Christ. He was not sprinkled. He went INTO the water to be baptized and was immersed into the water.

Catholics baptize at infancy , earlier the better.
 
And Christmas came after Christ-Mass and of course it was made a national holiday instead of the winter solstice, the birth of the infant baby boy called Jesus. At this period of time, Christianity was the only recognized and legal religion in the Roman Empire. (not protestant)
What does that have to do with you stating that the Mass is the death of Christ?

It isn't. Mass is a celebration of the last supper.

sheeeesh-----the issue is new to me-----WHAT DOES "mass" mean in Latin (or greek) ???
ANYONE? I seem to VAGUELY recall that the term "mass" comes up in other contexts
in catholic lingo ----like related to other holidays
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.


They are symbolism, NOT the actual body and blood. Its hard to believe there are any catholics on earth. I seriously doubt it could get any more towards the darkness than they do.
 
Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
I believe it would be best to follow the example of Christ. He was not sprinkled. He went INTO the water to be baptized and was immersed into the water.

Catholics baptize at infancy , earlier the better.

Its nice as a tradition but a baby is just an innocent. What if the parents couldnt or wouldnt for some reason... not the baby's fault.
 
I don't know Latin or Greek. I'm just some dumb ass.

Mass (liturgy) - Wikipedia

Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
I believe it would be best to follow the example of Christ. He was not sprinkled. He went INTO the water to be baptized and was immersed into the water.

Not sprinkling...pouring onto. I agree with you. Baptists have such a bad name in the publics eye...but they get a lot right.
 
Yes and we were taught that the body and blood were spiritual, not the actual body and blood. I think new Catholics are taught its the body and blood. Maybe the nuns taught us that, because it would just seem so gross for us young children to really think we were eating a body.

What were you taught Ding?

I thought "Caths" :lol: were taught it is the actual body and blood.
It is but not in the literal sense...hard concept for kids to grasp.
It is symbolic only. Same as baptism, which the Catholics also got wrong. They only sprinkle water on you.

I was sprinkled as a baby. I know there are verses in there which support both types of baptism, but Id have to look them up...baptized by fire is most important.
I believe it would be best to follow the example of Christ. He was not sprinkled. He went INTO the water to be baptized and was immersed into the water.

Catholics baptize at infancy , earlier the better.


A youngster cannot possibly, make the choice in their heart, soul, mind and strength to make a decision to serve the true God all of their days. It takes maturity to make that choice to be baptized, Catholicisms choice is pure darkness.
 
\A youngster cannot possibly, make the choice in their heart, soul, mind and strength to make a decision to serve the true God all of their days. It takes maturity to make that choice to be baptized, Catholicisms choice is pure darkness.

The Catholic approach to life and the seven Sacraments has always been different from the Protestant view. Protestants came up with their own approach and perspective, and if that works for them, that should be all that matters. As for me, even as a very small child, I was delighted that I was baptized when I was a little baby. Orthodox Catholics go a step further and even baptized babies may receive communion and other sacraments. This is also good.
 
So Christmas is not well named, and people still think of it as a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. It probably is not the actual day of his birth at that time of the year, and it did correspond exactly at that time of year to a pagan festival that was originally celebrated, in much of the same way, for a long time. It does not mean that those saying they are Christian and celebrating that day as Christmas are pagans, still. But nothing about its celebration is obligatory for any as Christians, and we don't have to celebrate it and can do things more according to what's shown in the Bible.
 
celebrate Christ-mass. Actually the Mass is the death of Christ, its all about the Eucharist, and we take the body of Christ (the holy Eucharist)and drink wine AKA his blood .

So Christmas and Christ mass are not the same thing, but in the 300's Dec 25th , the winter solstice, was to be celebrated as Jesus's birthday.

So as Jesus did say to the Samaritan woman, you worship what you do not know.
Are you thinking the Samaritan woman was a Catholic or Protestant?
 
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So Christmas is not well named, and people still think of it as a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. It probably is not the actual day of his birth at that time of the year, and it did correspond exactly at that time of year to a pagan festival that was originally celebrated, in much of the same way, for a long time. It does not mean that those saying they are Christian and celebrating that day as Christmas are pagans, still. But nothing about its celebration is obligatory for any as Christians, and we don't have to celebrate it and can do things more according to what's shown in the Bible.

Look up lambing season in Palestine. Jesus was probably born in January.
 
So Christmas is not well named, and people still think of it as a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. It probably is not the actual day of his birth at that time of the year, and it did correspond exactly at that time of year to a pagan festival that was originally celebrated, in much of the same way, for a long time. It does not mean that those saying they are Christian and celebrating that day as Christmas are pagans, still. But nothing about its celebration is obligatory for any as Christians, and we don't have to celebrate it and can do things more according to what's shown in the Bible.
Penelope

Lambing season in Palestine occurs from late November to late March, when many births take place each day.

A 1975 survey found that 78% of lambing in the Near East happens between October and April.

Here are some reasons why lambing occurs during these months:
Seasonality: The breeding cycle is seasonal.

Grass growth: Grass is at its best during this time.

Warmer weather: Lambs can be born outside in warmer weather.

Sheep can withstand winter cold and are often grazed even in snowy conditions. However, ice can prevent them from eating.
 
celebrate Christ-mass. Actually the Mass is the death of Christ, its all about the Eucharist, and we take the body of Christ (the holy Eucharist)and drink wine AKA his blood .

So Christmas and Christ mass are not the same thing, but in the 300's Dec 25th , the winter solstice, was to be celebrated as Jesus's birthday.

So as Jesus did say to the Samaritan woman, you worship what you do not know.

How about you busy bodies just mind your own business?
 
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