Tim Kaine shockingly compares the Declaration of Independence to Iran's theocratic regime: 'Extremely troubling'

[IM2]

together we stand.........divided we fall.......~S~

This nation has never stood together.

 

[IM2]

While I am aware of your...limitations.....I would remind your that your voluntary subscribing to the thread would, I would hope, indicate that you would provide your specific disagreements with this:


Americans have fundamental beliefs, and after all the pretense on the part of Democrats, there is no longer disputing that they have eschewed said beliefs in favor of a foreign ideology.

• At a hearing today, Tim Kaine said our rights come from laws, from government, not from our Creator. That’s contrary to the Declaration of Independence.

• The Constitution clearly states the right of free speech, yet Democrats have denied that right to pastors, and Kagan says government can make some words illegal

• The Constitution makes all of us equal, not with different benefits based on skin color, nationality, or religion. Yet the Mamdani Democrats, normalized by Obama and other Democrat officials, favors racism, anti-Semitism, abolishing private property.

• The Constitution specifically places restriction on the powers of government, rather that individuals, yet the Democrat Party has become spokesman of socialism and communism.

• Trump has highlighted one of most painful differences between Americans and Democrats: our side favors law abiding innocent folks, while the Democrats champions criminal, invaders, sex traffickers a murderers.

Everything you posted is factually untrue.

1. The Declaration of Independence did not establish the laws of the land. The constitution did.
2. If anyone has retricted the right to free speech its Republicans. Banning books, banning certain topics, and now we have a President arresting students for speaking out.
3. The Constitution made us 3/5ths of a human, denied the original nations equal status, denied women equal status, and excluded every person who was not white. My goodness, if this is what Columbia University produces, then Columbia should be shut down.
4. At this moment, the Republican Party is fascist.
5. Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
6. Trump and Republicans are doing all of these things. You support it. You are a fascist.
7. Trump is a convicted felon. He released 1,500 convicted felons. It is the Republican party that champins criminals.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Everything you posted is factually untrue.

1. The Declaration of Independence did not establish the laws of the land. The constitution did.
2. If anyone has retricted the right to free speech its Republicans. Banning books, banning certain topics, and now we have a President arresting students for speaking out.
3. The Constitution made us 3/5ths of a human, denied the original nations equal status, denied women equal status, and excluded every person who was not white. My goodness, if this is what Columbia University produces, then Columbia should be shut down.
4. At this moment, the Republican Party is fascist.
5. Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
6. Trump and Republicans are doing all of these things. You support it. You are a fascist.
7. Trump is a convicted felon. He released 1,500 convicted felons. It is the Republican party that champins criminals.

The Constitution made SLAVES three fifths of a person or the sole purpose of the census. Free blacks were full persons. The slave owning states wanted their property SLAVES counted as a full person while having no rights at all. The free states didn't want PROPERTY which is what the slave owning states considered slaves counted at all for the census. Just like you and your ilk want illegal aliens counted in the census for the same reason the slave owners wanted their slaves counted: pure political power in the halls of Congress and the Electoral College.

You need to grow up, this simple FACT has been explained to you over a hundred times by many posters.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

When they say the quiet part out loud they're telling you plainly what they believe......... and you should believe them.

Tyrannical douchbags ....the lot of em

 

[BlindBoo]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The document that followed is what ensures not only the natural rights of life, liberty, and property, but a whole host of other rights as well.

Apparently the FF's didn't have much faith in a supernatural being entrusted with ensuring these rights for the people.

The DOI was the justification for separation from England, not the blue prints for setting up a liberal democracy.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

True. And the ultimate regression is faith or no faith because Science and Man do not know the final regressive questions, and probably never will.

First Cause Picked off First Base

Science, Man, and Theists do not know. Besides, it's begging the question to assume that there was a beginning.

 

[Rawley]

Philosophical questions aside, Kaine is spot on.

The US = Iran. Dat's some fucked up thinking there.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There is a difference between a Declaration of Independence and a Constitution technically. The United States went from a Declaration of Independence to the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution of the United States. Technically the Articles of Confederation was of more freedom.

A Supreme Set of Laws Is Nothing But Tyranny

Practically the same incompetent political scientists who administered the Articles of Confederation wrote the Constitution. The oligarchy always implies they were a completely different group.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Are rights are from God.

The Bill of Rights was written to keep government from taking rights away from us.

The Bill of Rightists (and their Leftist twins)

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

together we stand.........divided we fall.......~S~

Dog-Eared Dogma

So we're all supposed to be on the same page? Who writes that page?

 

[BlindBoo]

Dog-Eared Dogma

So we're all supposed to be on the same page? Who writes that page?

Depends on the page. Will we ever be on the same page again?

 

[Seymour Flops]

"The idea that rights don't come from government, they come from the creator, that's what the Iranian government believes."

Unbelievable. Has the man never read a history book, nor any of our founding documents?

For the atheists out there, don't worry. The founders were deliberate when they used the word "Creator," instead of referring to "the Lord God Jehovah, of the Old and New Testaments and NO other," or some such. They knew and respected that different Americans had and would have different ideas on "our Creator."

So, if you believe that we were created by the natural forces of nature, acting with no guidance from any sentient being, good news! That creator gave you the same rights as mine gave me or anyone on this board, or in this nation.

This is Tim Kaine, but he isn't "Tampon Tim," right? That's Tim Walz. He's also not the guy that had margaritas with wife-beater Abrego Garcia. He was not a Tim, but a Chris.

But they all have that same look.

I'll bet not one of those guys believe that I have rights that were endowed by my creator. Nope. Government, i.e. Tim, Tim, and Chris, gives me my rights.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Weird thing is that Kaine, not only says it, he goes on and on as if he knew how bad it sounded. But he only made it worse.

 

[BackAgain]

The idea that rights don't come from government, they come from the creator, that's what the Iranian government believes.

Unbelievable. Has the man never read a history book, nor any of our founding documents?

For the atheists out there, don't worry. The founders were deliberate when they used the word "Creator," instead of referring to "the Lord God Jehovah, of the Old and New Testaments and NO other," or some such. They knew and respected that different Americans had and would have different ideas on "our Creator."

So, if you believe that we were created by the natural forces of nature, acting with no guidance from any sentient being, good news! That creator gave you the same rights as mine gave me or anyone on this board, or in this nation.

This is Tim Kaine, but he isn't "Tampon Tim," right? That's Tim Walz. He's also not the guy that had margaritas with wife-beater Abrego Garcia. He was not a Tim, but a Chris.

But they all have that same look.

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I'll bet not one of those guys believe that I have rights that were endowed by my creator. Nope. Government, i.e. Tim, Tim, and Chris, gives me my rights.

Obviously, Tim Kaine is wrong. He is ignorant or stupid or dishonest. But that is not what America stated about our inalienable rights when we declared our Independence.

 

[Failzero]

Marxists are gonna Marxis

 

[JohnDB]

This is a major, massive problem with current models for electing officials.

We need to get these corporations to stop funding or controlling these elections with funding their campaigns or bribing them with stock trading after they are in.

Because the man is so egotistical that he doesn't even know what the fundamental difference is anymore.

Rubio isn't much better in actions, but at least he knows what the documents say and mean. He doesn't follow them all that often....but at least he publicly gives assent.

 

[sparky]

. All men are created equal that they are endowed by their Creator (not the state)

~S~

 

[westwall]

God gave us the right to not have warrantless searches?
God gave us the right to not receive excessive bail?
No, the government did.
Tim is a dumb ass moonbat, but he has a point here.

No, the Constitution merely declares what is.

 

[sparky]

This nation has never stood together.

find me a mix like ours that's done better on this rock IM2 ~S~

 

[IM2]

find me a mix like ours that's done better on this rock IM2 ~S~

There are several in Europe, New Zealand Australia. Then there is Canada. Even South Africa. Most of these nations have created reconciliation commissions to work on their past oppression of non white people. But not here.