Tim Kaine shockingly compares the Declaration of Independence to Iran's theocratic regime: 'Extremely troubling'

[Moonglow]

It matters not who is declared leader, Obama already hugged Mamdami.

It is the issued listed in the OP that are, as I stated, shocking.

Trump saluted a North Korean general, and then?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The constitution made us 3/5ths of a human, denied the original nations equal status, denied women equal status, and excluded every person who was not white. My goodness, if this is what Columbia University produces, then Columbia should be shut down.

You must be, what, 10 years old?

It does no such thing, you dunce. Why must I educate you every time?


AI Overview

No, the U.S. Constitution did not make Black people three-fifths of a person or citizen. Instead, the Three-Fifths Compromise, in Article I, Section 2, stated that enslaved people would be counted as three-fifths of a person when determining a state's population for congressional representation and direct taxation. This clause was a compromise between slaveholding and free states, not an assertion of individual rights or humanity for Black people, whose status as enslaved individuals denied them full citizenship.

What the Three-Fifths Compromise did:

• Apportioned Congressional Seats: It determined how many representatives each state would send to Congress.
• Calculated Direct Taxes: It also dictated the amount of direct taxes a state owed.

Why it was a compromise:

• Southern States:
  Slaveholding states wanted enslaved people to be fully counted in the census to increase their power in Congress.

 

[Moonglow]

You must be, what, 10 years old?

It does no such thing, you dunce. Why must I educate you every time?


AI Overview

No, the U.S. Constitution did not make Black people three-fifths of a person or citizen. Instead, the Three-Fifths Compromise, in Article I, Section 2, stated that enslaved people would be counted as three-fifths of a person when determining a state's population for congressional representation and direct taxation. This clause was a compromise between slaveholding and free states, not an assertion of individual rights or humanity for Black people, whose status as enslaved individuals denied them full citizenship.

What the Three-Fifths Compromise did:

• Apportioned Congressional Seats: It determined how many representatives each state would send to Congress.
• Calculated Direct Taxes: It also dictated the amount of direct taxes a state owed.

Why it was a compromise:

• Southern States:
  Slaveholding states wanted enslaved people to be fully counted in the census to increase their power in Congress.

I bet you wish you were a black slave in the South.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Mandami is not trying to be leader of the Democrtic party and you really need to stop reading right wing propaganda.

Mamdani is running under the Democrat banner with the support of Obama and other elected Democrats.




The Mamdani Democrat party stands for abolishing private property, socialis/communism, anti-Semitism, and racism.



This is not an American party.

 

[PoliticalChic]

together we stand.........divided we fall.......~S~

Nothing could be more true.

 

[Moonglow]

Mamdani is running under the Democrat banner with the support of Obama and other elected Democrats.




The Mamdani Democrat party stands for abolishing private property, socialis/communism, anti-Semitism, and racism.



This is not an American party.

True, it is not a political party at all, but it is in yer convoluted mind.

 

[Moonglow]

Nothing could be more true.

Which will never happen with the lies you produce.

 

[sparky]

Nothing could be more true.

well PC, one has to ask just what are 'American' values, ethics, morals ?

when we pledge allegiance i was under the impression we were subscribing to them???

but hey, i'm just a dumb pig farmer (ask Joe B) that don't know nuthin'...... ~S~

 

[toobfreak]

At a hearing today, Tim Kaine said our rights come from laws, from government, not from our Creator.

Tim is slightly wrong and should be disqualified from office. All men are created equal that they are endowed by their Creator (not the state) with certain unalienable Rights. To think the state gives you rights is to say that what the State gives, the State can taketh away. That is what Russia says to its people.

The Constitution specifically places restriction on the powers of government,

Must be why they are so fond of ignoring it.

our side favors law abiding innocent folks, while the Democrats champions criminal, invaders, sex traffickers a murderers.

Our side favors the rule of law which is the basis of being a republic. Democrats only abide by laws and rules when they can use them to clobber others with to get their way. Any other time, they thumb their nose at laws.

 

[ThisIsMe]

They keep exposing themselves as to who and what they have become.

Pay attention!


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-- ..."

How can anyone ever vote for the Democrat?

Im sure they want to believe that because what the government giveth, the government can take away.

There is actually comfort in the idea that rights come from a higher power, because it means nobody can take them away.

 

[PoliticalChic]

well PC, one has to ask just what are 'American' values, ethics, morals ?

when we pledge allegiance i was under the impression we were subscribing to them???

but hey, i'm just a dumb pig farmer (ask Joe B) that don't know nuthin'...... ~S~

We, "we" are ......but per the OP, they are not. They have chosen a foreign ideology.

And I can't see any re-education on the horizon.

They people appear to have neither lived in other countries, not protected by the Constitution, especially our very own cousin, the UK, where one can be imprioned for disagreeing with the government.

I believe your origiinal post is correct....Lincoln's "house divided."

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tim is slightly wrong and should be disqualified from office. All men are created equal that they are endowed by their Creator (not the state) with certain unalienable Rights. To think the state gives you rights is to say that what the State gives, the State can taketh away. That is what Russia says to its people.


Must be why they are so fond of ignoring it.


Our side favors the rule of law which is the basis of being a republic. Democrats only abide by laws and rules when they can use them to clobber others with to get their way. Any other time, they thumb their nose at laws.

Why would you say "slightly"????




While the Leftist view is that God is a fairy tale, and it is man, in the form of government that must be worshipped, it is counterintuitive to espouse this view and still claim to be American, as the Declaration of Independence is very clear as to the basis of our heritage:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in Declaration of Independence…

1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

 

[drudge X]

I'll bet you anything that he is a die hard fan of Kim Jong.

 

[konradv]

They keep exposing themselves as to who and what they have become.

Pay attention!


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-- ..."

How can anyone ever vote for the Democrat?

Our rights are whatever we say they are. It’s supposed to be the Constitution, but that can’t be, if you ignore judges.

 

[whitehall]

It looks like he forgot where his glasses go.

 

[konradv]

They keep exposing themselves as to who and what they have become.

Pay attention!


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-- ..."

How can anyone ever vote for the Democrat?

The Constitution is law; The Declaration isn’t.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They keep exposing themselves as to who and what they have become.

Pay attention!


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-- ..."

How can anyone ever vote for the Democrat?

He is correct, insomuch that rights are an abstract concept and have exactly as much substance as WE grant them. The enforcement of those rights basically defines the amount of substance the rights have. And the government is the entity that enforces them.

 

[toobfreak]

Why would you say "slightly"????

I said it satirically.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I said it satirically.

I understand

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I can't decide who is a biggest train wreck, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, or China Tim.

Tim Kaine shockingly compares the Declaration of Independence to Iran's theocratic regime: 'Extremely troubling' | Blaze Media

'That's what the Iranian government believes.'

www.theblaze.com

Democrat Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia failed to understand one of America's basic founding principles and instead likened it to the Iranian regime.

In a Wednesday committee hearing, Kaine insisted that our natural rights are derived from the government, not from God. Kaine went on to say that the notion that our natural rights come from the Creator is "extremely troubling" and compared it to Iran's theocracy.

"The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't come from the government, but come from the Creator. That's what the Iranian government believes," Kaine said. "It's a theocratic regime that bases its rule on Shia law [sic] ... and they do it because they believe that they understand what natural rights are from their Creator."

"The statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our governments is extremely troubling."

Unfortunately for Kaine, the founding fathers disagree with him.

The Declaration of Independence makes very clear that our natural rights come from God and not from the government, as Kaine suggested. In the second paragraph, the Declaration states that "all men are created equal" and that "they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

I guess Tim probably thinks his rights come from Trump then.

The Declaration of Independence isn't legally binding, so any claim that it mandates adherence to its principles, like the idea of God-given rights, lacks legal force. The U.S. Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, does not explicitly state that "God is in charge" or establish a theocratic framework.

It avoids direct references to God, except in the context of the date ("Year of our Lord" in the signing clause, a common convention). The Constitution focuses on secular governance, emphasizing popular sovereignty, individual rights, and a system of checks and balances.

It is hogwash that we are a Christian nation. The founding fathers escaped that and did not want it. They were deists at best. Stop with your faux outrage,