Tim Kaine shockingly compares the Declaration of Independence to Iran's theocratic regime: 'Extremely troubling'

[PoliticalChic]

Everything you posted is factually untrue.

1. The Declaration of Independence did not establish the laws of the land. The constitution did.
2. If anyone has retricted the right to free speech its Republicans. Banning books, banning certain topics, and now we have a President arresting students for speaking out.
3. The Constitution made us 3/5ths of a human, denied the original nations equal status, denied women equal status, and excluded every person who was not white. My goodness, if this is what Columbia University produces, then Columbia should be shut down.
4. At this moment, the Republican Party is fascist.
5. Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
6. Trump and Republicans are doing all of these things. You support it. You are a fascist.
7. Trump is a convicted felon. He released 1,500 convicted felons. It is the Republican party that champins criminals.

Wow!

Articulate and well supported!

Your writing is getting much better! Congrats!


I hope this sort of improvement continues

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

"The idea that rights don't come from government, they come from the creator, that's what the Iranian government believes."

Unbelievable. Has the man never read a history book, nor any of our founding documents?

For the atheists out there, don't worry. The founders were deliberate when they used the word "Creator," instead of referring to "the Lord God Jehovah, of the Old and New Testaments and NO other," or some such. They knew and respected that different Americans had and would have different ideas on "our Creator."

So, if you believe that we were created by the natural forces of nature, acting with no guidance from any sentient being, good news! That creator gave you the same rights as mine gave me or anyone on this board, or in this nation.

This is Tim Kaine, but he isn't "Tampon Tim," right? That's Tim Walz. He's also not the guy that had margaritas with wife-beater Abrego Garcia. He was not a Tim, but a Chris.

But they all have that same look.

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I'll bet not one of those guys believe that I have rights that were endowed by my creator. Nope. Government, i.e. Tim, Tim, and Chris, gives me my rights.

Just because Antifa-father Kaine makes some ridiculous Statist claim, you use that as an excuse to make your ridiculous Christofascist claim

 

[Failzero]

Just because Antifa-father Kaine makes some ridiculous Statist claim, you use that as an excuse to make your ridiculous Christofascist claim

I practice Judaism

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Tim Kaine and Tim Walz, two turds America dodged a bullet

 

[mudwhistle]

He was every bit as much a shitty governor as he is a shitty senator.

Democrats like shitty.

 

[mudwhistle]

Tim Kaine and Tim Walz, two turds America dodged a bullet

Both stupid and ugly.

 

[Independent thinker]

I can't decide who is a biggest train wreck, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, or China Tim.

Tim Kaine shockingly compares the Declaration of Independence to Iran's theocratic regime: 'Extremely troubling' | Blaze Media

'That's what the Iranian government believes.'

www.theblaze.com

Democrat Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia failed to understand one of America's basic founding principles and instead likened it to the Iranian regime.

In a Wednesday committee hearing, Kaine insisted that our natural rights are derived from the government, not from God. Kaine went on to say that the notion that our natural rights come from the Creator is "extremely troubling" and compared it to Iran's theocracy.

"The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't come from the government, but come from the Creator. That's what the Iranian government believes," Kaine said. "It's a theocratic regime that bases its rule on Shia law [sic] ... and they do it because they believe that they understand what natural rights are from their Creator."

"The statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our governments is extremely troubling."

Unfortunately for Kaine, the founding fathers disagree with him.

The Declaration of Independence makes very clear that our natural rights come from God and not from the government, as Kaine suggested. In the second paragraph, the Declaration states that "all men are created equal" and that "they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

I guess Tim probably thinks his rights come from Trump then.

Not that shocking when you consider the fact that democrats have tried numerous ways of taking democracy away.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not that shocking when you consider the fact that democrats have tried numerous ways of taking democracy away.

Now go polish the boots of the fat rapist who tried to steal an election. You people are so far gone...

 

[Eman623]

That it was a fellow Virginian who is so brazenly clueless about where natural rights derive from is particularly galling.

Virginia has fallen far.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That it was a fellow Virginian who is so brazenly clueless about where natural rights derive from is particularly galling.

Virginia has fallen far.

It certainly isn't from magical sky daddies.

 

[Eman623]

It certainly isn't from magical sky daddies.

The DoA makes no mention of Him.

But if you agree with Kaine and believe all your rights come from the government's largess that presumably can be taken away at any time, well hope that works out for you.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I practice Judaism

Predatory Logic of "If Not A, Therefore B"

The real Founding Fathers, the pioneers, were more influenced by the Old Testament than the wimpy legends about Jesus. But religious texts only confirmed the attitudes they already had by nature and freedom from European Birth-Class Supremacy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The DoA makes no mention of Him.

I did.

The total substance that your rights have does, in fact, come from government. That's what I believe.

And if your rights have zero substance... welp, then they dont exist anywhere but in your mind, do they?

 

[Eman623]

I did.

The total substance that your rights have does, in fact, come from government. That's what I believe.

And if your rights have zero substance... welp, then they dont exist anywhere but in your mind, do they?

Everything only exists for me in my mind. Including me and you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Everything only exists for me in my mind. Including me and you.

Oooooookay....

*slowly backs away

 

[Eman623]

Oooooookay....

*slowly backs away

LOL. Phenomenology can indeed be scary. Be afraid.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

LOL. Phenomenology can indeed be scary. Be afraid.

I took that class.

 

[Eman623]

I took that class.

Did you take a class on US History and if so were you sick on the day they taught about natural rights?

These rights of your that come from government? What if the government decided that you no longer had rights? Would you then be rightless?

I don't know about you, but I hold as self-evident that I am endowed by my creator (a notion that does not require a magical sky daddy) with certain inalienable rights. Rights that can be abrogated legally or otherwise, but can never be taken away as if they were a possession or grant. They are an immutable part of me.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did you take a class on US History and if so were you sick on the day they taught about natural rights?

Yes, we learned that's an abstract concept.

As I pointed out.

Now you know, too.

Looks like you don't have to retake history, now.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

These rights of your that come from government?

The rights come from our minds.

The substance rights enjoy comes from government.