Tilting Our Politics Back Toward Democracy

[JGalt]

So your admission that you were a John Birch Society supporter was designed to get you called out as a racist nutjob?

Cool

So you admit that you're an ignorant fuckstick who knows nothing about the JBS, and believes they're a "racist" organization?

Cool. Carry on, ignorant fuckstick.

 

[Lesh]

So you admit that you're an ignorant fuckstick who knows nothing about the JBS, and believes they're a "racist" organization?

Cool. Carry on, ignorant fuckstick.

I know they were an extremist racist bunch of fucknobs in the 60s.

I didn't know they still existed and highly doubt that they are any different now.

 

[Rigby5]

The US is not, nor has it ever been a "democracy."

It was at one time a constitutional republic, but now it's just a republic with a lot of bananas.

But the problem of calling the US a "constitutional" republic is that it implies the RULE OF LAW comes from legislators.
The RULE OF LAW does NOT come from legislators, but from the defense of inherent rights of all individuals.

So the correct description of the US is a democratic republic.
Democratic does NOT imply majority rule, but that the inherent rights of individuals is the source of all legal and governmental authority.

If that is not clear enough, then consider where the authority for a constitution comes from?
Can't be from legislators, since that would be not only circular, but arbitrary.

 

[Rigby5]

I always love when democrats pretend to care about our country and democracy while talking about taking power away from voters and states and handing everything over to the federal government.

Local is always better.
The only exception is when large corporations take over local resources and monopolize local government.

 

[Rigby5]

I like the JBS. Any organization that hates communists like yourself, can't be all that bad.

Communism is the inherent, instinctive way that all primitives and historical tribal societies used to live.
Anyone who "hates" it has to not at all understand it.

 

[Rigby5]

Wherein we find this:
Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”

However, state legislators were turned out to not be very ethical.
They supported things like slavery, suppressing woman voters, etc.
So the 14th amendment changed things.
State legislators are no longer supreme after the 14th amendment.
Now the feds are empowered to defend individual rights if the state legislators try to infringe.
For example, now voting is not limited to land owning males any more, senators are voted on by the whole population instead of just member of the state legislature.
The move was to more democracy is not just good, but inevitable, as we no longer are indoctrinated by aristocracies.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism is the inherent, instinctive way that all primitives and historical tribal societies used to live.
Anyone who "hates" it has to not at all understand it.

Communism is a modern ideoology designed to be an authoritarian dictatorship. It is evil

You do not understand it at all

 

[Rigby5]

Yeah, that whole free press thing has outlived it's usefulness. Hasn't it?

I wish we had a "free press".
The way the wealthy have purchased every means of public communications, there really is not much freedom there left, unless you read all the foreign press.

 

[themirrorthief]

It's much more constructive to focus on the content of the article rather than being dismissive of it because the contributors to the Bulwark are not Trump cultists.

the buydem crime organizaton totally approve of the article

 

[Rigby5]

Communism is a modern ideoology designed to be an authoritarian dictatorship. It is evil

You do not understand it at all

Sorry, but that is totally ignorant.

Marx and Engles were trying to create a new solution to a new problem, which was the wealthy taking over all the means of production, as cottage industries could no longer compete with factories.

But communism is ancient, the norm for all human tribes, and always works best.

And communism says NOTHING at all about how you make political decisions, people are represented, or anything remotely political.
Communism is only about shared economic resources.
Nothing else, at all.
In fact, shared economic resources pretty much implies that communism would have to be democratic.

 

[Rigby5]

So you admit that you're an ignorant fuckstick who knows nothing about the JBS, and believes they're a "racist" organization?

Cool. Carry on, ignorant fuckstick.

My father used to be a John Bircher, and he was racist.
He could easily go on a rant about "Marching Morons".

 

[Soupnazi630]

Sorry, but that is totally ignorant.

Marx and Engles were trying to create a new solution to a new problem, which was the wealthy taking over all the means of production, as cottage industries could no longer compete with factories.

But communism is ancient, the norm for all human tribes, and always works best.

And communism says NOTHING at all about how you make political decisions, people are represented, or anything remotely political.
Communism is only about shared economic resources.
Nothing else, at all.
In fact, shared economic resources pretty much implies that communism would have to be democratic.

Wrong it is informed.

Your claims are ignorant.

Marx and Engles were inventing problems which never existed and proposing regressive aolutruona which always fail,

Communism is modern and not natural.

Yes communism says everything about how you are ruled. The ideology demands a dictatorship.

It is about sharing nothing it is about univeral enslavement.

you are ignorant and do not grasp anything accurate about communism

 

[multivita-man]

The US is not, nor has it ever been a "democracy."

It was at one time a constitutional republic, but now it's just a republic with a lot of bananas.

But a republican form of government is a representative government, which is inherently democratic. Obviously, it's not direct democracy or a democracy in the absolute sense, and for that, I'm actually glad. But most of the time, when people say "it's a republic, not a democracy", they're trying to say "it's not really a democracy," which is inaccurate.

True, democracy in 1787 looked quite different then than it does now, but so what? Republics evolve.