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He didn't...you did. Think hard now
This might be the most absurd of Trump's promises
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He didn't...you did. Think hard now
Moonglow
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Just like you believed Trumpet's garbage.
No I'm saying its high time asshole Democrats got a taste of their own medicine, I hope they choke on it.
Why does Trump need to lie 185 times more than Obama?
Why does Trump need to lie 185 times more than Obama?
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No I'm saying its high time asshole Democrats got a taste of their own medicine, I hope they choke on it.
So electing an asshole is your recipe for getting even? lol, that is goddam funnier.
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The truth is, by expanding Medicaid, getting rid of pre-existing conditions limitations on obtaining insurance, and by introducing the subsidies,
Obama is the one who for many Americans enabled them to get healthcare at a fraction of what it was costing them.
Obama is the one who for many Americans enabled them to get healthcare at a fraction of what it was costing them.
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Rubes look Trump is blowing new smoke up your ass...enjoy the breeze
Trump Says New Health Care Plan Is 'On Its Way,' Doesn't Say When
Trump Says New Health Care Plan Is 'On Its Way,' Doesn't Say When
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Just out of curiosity, does everyone here understand why Trump and the Republicans are so stymied with their attempts to repeal and replace Obamacare?
If not, listen close:
They are stymied because there is no plan they can come up with that is better than Obamacare that also doesn't violate the core conservative principles regarding healthcare and the government's role...
...plus...to make matters worse, there are plenty of moderate Republicans who at this point would be quite content to leave Obamacare alone,
if the only alternative is to go along with any of the conservative GOP wing's politically disastrous plans.
If not, listen close:
They are stymied because there is no plan they can come up with that is better than Obamacare that also doesn't violate the core conservative principles regarding healthcare and the government's role...
...plus...to make matters worse, there are plenty of moderate Republicans who at this point would be quite content to leave Obamacare alone,
if the only alternative is to go along with any of the conservative GOP wing's politically disastrous plans.
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healthmyths
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Well here is ONE way President Trump could be right.
The single most important aspect of health care finances that could be and has been PROVEN to be effect is TORT REFORM which Obama being a lawyer abhorred as does 47% of Congress!
$850 billion doctors project as wasted, duplicate testings,etc. all because of fear of lawsuits!
"Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year. This is 26 to 34% of all US healthcare costs."
FACTS: Between 2005 and 2009, there were 58,667 claims paid on behalf of US physicians. Of these paid claims, 56,850 (96.9%) were settled outside court, and 1817 (3.1%) were judged in court. Characteristics of paid malpractice claims settled in and out of court in the USA: a retrospective analysis
WHY were 96.9% settled? Because all the insurance companies did was pass the costs on in higher premiums!
It is cheaper then going to court and fighting it.
Hence doctors,etc. just out of FEAR of lawsuits say hey let's order another test to be sure!!!
WASTE of over $850 Billon!
Why are you protecting lawyers who have caused doctors to practice "Defensive Medicine"?
(See this study where 90% claim they order $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate tests, referrals all out of FEAR of being SUED!)
--- Emergency medicine, primary care, and OB/GYN physicians are most likely to practice "defensive medicine".
"Physicians contracted by the federal government practice significantly less defensive medicine as they are protected by the 1946 Federal Tort Claims Act. "
BUT.....only 48% practice defensive medicine compared to 92% of non-government physicians.
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
- National Healthcare Expenditures grew $3.2 trillion in 2015, and accounted for 17.8% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
- NHE Fact Sheet - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Then by far cutting just 20% of the $1.08 Trillion spent on "defensive medicine" would be nearly $200 Billion a year in savings!
And since almost all of you are ignorant of the simple fact that insurance companies are regulated by states, therefore if an insurance company asks for a rate increase, they have to justify by showing what their claim payment outlays were. IF tort reform which works for federally contracted physicians (the "1946 Federal Tort Claims Act") was enacted, then the insurance companies wouldn't be putting out $200 Billion in claims.
Meaning they could NOT raise premiums per state regulations BUT may have to lower premiums!
All because of simple tort reform that protects the physician from fear of lawsuits thus reducing the practice of defensive medicine!
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Rube Reboot Fail
Republicans fail to muster enough votes in their own party to pass health bill & drop it... again
Ed O'Keefe @edatpost 4m4 minutes ago
JUST IN: House GOP backs down from a last-minute push to vote on health-care bill House will not vote on Affordable Care Act rewrite, smoothing way for government to stay open …
April 27 at 10:16 PM
House GOP backs down from a last-minute push to vote on health-care bill, smoothing way for government to stay open past Friday
Despite pressure from the White House, House GOP leaders determined Thursday night that they don’t have the votes to pass a rewrite of the Affordable Care Act and will not seek to put their proposal on the floor on Friday.
A late push to act on health care had threatened the bipartisan deal to keep the government open for one week while lawmakers crafted a longer-term spending deal. Now, lawmakers are likely to approve the spending bill when it comes to the floor Friday and keep the government open past midnight.
read: House will not vote on Affordable Care Act rewrite, smoothing way for government to stay open
Republicans fail to muster enough votes in their own party to pass health bill & drop it... again
Ed O'Keefe @edatpost 4m4 minutes ago
JUST IN: House GOP backs down from a last-minute push to vote on health-care bill House will not vote on Affordable Care Act rewrite, smoothing way for government to stay open …
April 27 at 10:16 PM
House GOP backs down from a last-minute push to vote on health-care bill, smoothing way for government to stay open past Friday
Despite pressure from the White House, House GOP leaders determined Thursday night that they don’t have the votes to pass a rewrite of the Affordable Care Act and will not seek to put their proposal on the floor on Friday.
A late push to act on health care had threatened the bipartisan deal to keep the government open for one week while lawmakers crafted a longer-term spending deal. Now, lawmakers are likely to approve the spending bill when it comes to the floor Friday and keep the government open past midnight.
read: House will not vote on Affordable Care Act rewrite, smoothing way for government to stay open
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Why dont you worry about your own country and keep your nose out of ours
Redfish
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premiums and deductibles will go down once obozocare is replaced. Those on medicare and Medicaid will not be affected. Those who pay will pay less.
the people that like O'care are the ones getting it free. For everyone who pays for insurance, it sucks big time.
the people that like O'care are the ones getting it free. For everyone who pays for insurance, it sucks big time.
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postman
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Trump also said he would pay off the national debt before leaving office. That's nearly $19 trillion, and Trump hasn't even cut the deficit, no less create the sort of surpluses that would pay off $19 trillion in 8 years.
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Trump also said the check is in the mail.
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You sponging off the backs of working Americans for your healthcare?
My bet is every one if you losers supporting the POS obamacare are
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He does that when facts stump him
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Another fricken foreigner we don't give two shits about
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