This is why there’s been so much extreme rainfall and flooding in the U.S.

[Papageorgio]

MSN

While there are varying meteorological forces behind this month’s extreme rainfall, what has connected them all is significant amounts of atmospheric moisture pulsing above the country.

It is flowing from abnormally warm oceans across the Northern Hemisphere that are likely to stretch elevated flood risks into August, data shows — perhaps into record territory. The conditions are allowing plumes of tropical moisture to stretch into middle latitudes and stagnate there, sending flood risks surging and exemplifying a critical consequence of rising global temperatures that researchers have been predicting and tracking for decades.

Scientist have been warning for decades about climate change. As oceans warm, the added moisture in the atmosphere will lead to more super storms. The repub party has called it lies and propped up their "experts" to refute the science. We can expect to see extreme weather episodes going forward and that will lead to more loss of life and property. Insurance rates are already skyrocketing in parts of the country where these weather extremes are prevalent. We may be too late to change course.

“70% increase in 2025”: No national climate dataset shows a 70% jump in flooding or extreme-rainfall events in a single year—long-term increases are much more gradual. This figure likely conflates regional multi-decade trends with a short-term spike.

“100-year to 1,000-year events”: While many local gauges have shattered historical records recently, return-period designations (e.g., “1,000-year storm”) apply to individual sites, not the entire country simultaneously. Presenting them as uniform national phenomena oversimplifies how rainfall extremes are assessed.

 

[BULLDOG]

Why don't you just offer up your own documentation and arguments.

Who want's your apology? Nobody trusts your statements.

That' kinda my point. Climate change doubters keep spouting data and charts to me that I am not qualified to evaluate. I must rely on the judgement of experts. Anti climate change nuts seem to think their instant internet expert degree makes them as qualified a real experts. I disagree.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Climate change doubters keep spouting data and charts to me that I am not qualified to evaluate.

But you talk about them anyway.

I must rely on the judgement of experts.

How did you decide to follow the consensus. Just because it was the consensus?

Anti climate change nuts seem to think their instant internet expert degree makes them as qualified a real experts.

If you can't evaluate the science how do you know the anti AGW (get your argument right, at least) people are right.

Just because there are more of them?



You said you were a baptist.

There are 50 million baptists.

There are 1.25 billion catholics.

There are 2.1 billion muslims.

What gives ?

 

[Papageorgio]

That' kinda my point. Climate change doubters keep spouting data and charts to me that I am not qualified to evaluate. I must rely on the judgement of experts. Anti climate change nuts seem to think their instant internet expert degree makes them as qualified a real experts. I disagree.

So relying on others judgement told us that you take the Covid vaccine, you can’t get Covid, taking the Covid vaccine you could not spread Covid, relying on others judgement told us that there was no possible way the Covid virus originated in a lab in Wuhan where Covid samples were stored, that glaciers would by all but gone by 2020.

As I get older, I realize that the experts are just guessing, that said I do what I can to leave a small carbon print.

 

[BULLDOG]

You are an even bigger idiot than I thought.

If I tried to convince you that smoking was good for you, and I presented obviously discredited papers from the 50s as proof, would you search the internet for documentation that I was wrong, or would you just say screw it, I'll go with what the experts say.

 

[ding]

If I tried to convince you that smoking was good for you, and I presented obviously discredited papers from the 50s as proof, would you search the internet for documentation that I was wrong, or would you just say screw it, I'll go with what the experts say.

You convinced me that you are an idiot.

 

[ding]

Is this guy (BULLDOG) a moron, or what ?

100%

 

[BULLDOG]

You don't know what the credentials of the internet folks are.

Your premise is stupid.

You just assume something.

That is why you are truly a left-winger.

Talk first.....ask later....if at all.

Why don't you produce your arguments and stand up for them.

If you can't, then you are cultist.

That's why I choose to believe those with verifiable credentials.

 

[BULLDOG]

ROTFLMAO

tell me what I need to know ==> tell me how to think.

And you are telling us all you are NOT a QUALIFIED expert.

Too much.

Knowing how to read and stand behind data (and the assumptions behind the data) is not mastery in the field. It is knowing how to tell what the data is telling you.

There is a huge difference.

And now we're back to questioning whether formal education is appropriate.

 

[BULLDOG]

But you talk about them anyway.


How did you decide to follow the consensus. Just because it was the consensus?

If you can't evaluate the science how do you know the anti AGW (get your argument right, at least) people are right.

Just because there are more of them?



You said you were a baptist.

There are 50 million baptists.

There are 1.25 billion catholics.

There are 2.1 billion muslims.

What gives ?

I don't know how a 7 speed transmission works either. If you want to talk about how the clutches work, I'll tell you I am not qualified to discuss that aspect of it. I'll have to rely on credentialed experts.

 

[HikerGuy83]

That's why I choose to believe those with verifiable credentials.

Got it.

You can't explain it, but you somehow feel justified in yapping at those who think they do and disagree.

That makes so much sense.

 

[HikerGuy83]

And now we're back to questioning whether formal education is appropriate.

Appropriate?

When is it inappropriate?

 

[HikerGuy83]

I don't know how a 7 speed transmission works either. If you want to talk about how the clutches work, I'll tell you I am not qualified to discuss that aspect of it. I'll have to rely on credentialed experts.

And if someone disputes the credentialed expert, you feel compelled to dig and call them names and tell them they are WRONG when you have no idea yourself?

Boy, are you educating us to how you think (or should I say how you cult).

 

[Leo123]

Cooler temps and more rain where I live would be a blessing.

 

[BULLDOG]

Got it.

You can't explain it, but you somehow feel justified in yapping at those who think they do and disagree.

That makes so much sense.

Believe what you want. I don't care. Just don't try to convince me that you are better qualified to make climate change determinations than trained experts. Give me some reason to believe you understand all those charts and graphs better than the experts.

 

[BULLDOG]

And if someone disputes the credentialed expert, you feel compelled to dig and call them names and tell them they are WRONG when you have no idea yourself?

Boy, are you educating us to how you think (or should I say how you cult).

Not exactly. I will always believe those with verifiable training over some anonymous nutbag on the internet who claims to be self taught by reading a few web sites, many of them obviously click bait.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Believe what you want. I don't care. Just don't try to convince me that you are better qualified to make climate change determinations than trained experts. Give me some reason to believe you understand all those charts and graphs better than the experts.

How would you know if I was lying to you.

You said it yourself....you don't know how to make these determinations yourself.

 

[BULLDOG]

How would you know if I was lying to you.

You said it yourself....you don't know how to make these determinations yourself.

If I can't verify your credentials, they aren't real. I choose to believe the most qualified

 

[HikerGuy83]

Not exactly. I will always believe those with verifiable training over some anonymous nutbag on the internet who claims to be self taught by reading a few web sites, many of them obviously click bait.

Hahahahaha.

This is too funny.

Self taught ?

 

[HikerGuy83]

If I can't verify your credentials, they aren't real. I choose to believe the most qualified

But you can't tell us what they are saying. You can't explain it