This is why none of our EU "allies" are willing to protect the flow of oil and gas through the Strait of Hormuz

[JGalt]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.

 

[Dorian Mode]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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America and Israel don't need Europe's help to do this mission. America no longer needs Europe and no longer should have to supplement it's defense either. I say cut them off and get out of NATO. Europe drags us down and holds us back. And they are not even allies anymore, they act more like enemies sometimes. When they realize how helpless they are without us then they will come back on their knees.

 

[JGalt]

America and Israel don't need Europe's help to do this mission. America no longer needs Europe and no longer should have to supplement it's defense either. I say cut them off and get out of NATO. Europe drags us down and holds us back. And they are not even allies anymore, they act more like enemies sometimes. When they realize how helpless they are without us then they will come back on their knees.

That's a good option. The Ukraine War is a European problem, we've already wasted enough money of that.

 

[EMH]

It couldn't have anything to do with the Iran War just being another 100% pure sellout of our troops to the Israel Lobby....

Everyone on the planet sees through this BS except the Pro Israel Christians...

 

[Dorian Mode]

That's a good option. The Ukraine War is a European problem, we've already wasted enough money of that.

The only problem is without us Europe would soon fall and China and Russia would rule the entire Eurasion continent, which happens to sit over the world's bread basket. This really is a conundrum, but I think Europe would prefer to be allied with us instead of subjugated to Russia and China. Europe's past treatment of Russia and especially China would haunt them and the payback would be vicious, especially to the UK. They better get over their TDS and realize Trump's foreign policy is what is keeping them safe.

 

[task0778]

If the flow of oil through the Hormuz Straits is not kept clear then the price of oil will go higher and stay higher until the situation changes. Doesn't matter whose oil it is, supply and demand will set the global price. It's great news for Exxon but not so much for the rest of us.

 

[TNHarley]

I like how you put allies in quotations. Because they are not our allies. They are our dependents. There is a difference.

 

[Anarchy666]

Japan should be excluded from sending assets since their constitution prevents them from waging war on another country as it stands.
Give it about a year and they'll be ready to form a military axis with us.

 

[Mac-7]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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As I understand it virtually all of Iran’s oil exports go through the Straight

Lets seize Kharg Island and cut off the mullah’s income

 

[Dorian Mode]

If the flow of oil through the Hormuz Straits is not kept clear then the price of oil will go higher and stay higher until the situation changes. Doesn't matter whose oil it is, supply and demand will set the global price. It's great news for Exxon but not so much for the rest of us.

I really don't think Iran can keep it under threat for too long. Unless China, Russia, Europe/NATO and a few other help Iran to keep it closed. If Iran doesn't just give up it is likely that Israel will use nukes and then Tehran and many other large Iranian cities will look like moon craters.

 

[leftwinger]

The only problem is without us Europe would soon fall and China and Russia would rule the entire Eurasion continent, which happens to sit over the world's bread basket. This really is a conundrum, but I think Europe would prefer to be allied with us instead of subjugated to Russia and China. Europe's past treatment of Russia and especially China would haunt them and the payback would be vicious, especially to the UK. They better get over their TDS and realize Trump's foreign policy is what is keeping them safe.

Some of those Euro countries are afraid to go "on record" as their imported savages will stab and riot even more than a regular day. France & England ruled by crazy Globalist fags.

 

[Anarchy666]

I really don't think Iran can keep it under threat for too long. Unless China, Russia, Europe/NATO and a few other help Iran to keep it closed. If Iran doesn't just give up it is likely that Israel will use nukes and then Tehran and many other large Iranian cities will look like moon craters.

I highly doubt Europe/NATO will actively help Iran in any way.

 

[Mac-7]

Some of those Euro countries are afraid to go "on record" as their imported savages will stab and riot even more than a regular day. France & England ruled by crazy Globalist fags.

The UK is almost a lost cause

 

[Dorian Mode]

Some of those Euro countries are afraid to go "on record" as their imported savages will stab and riot even more than a regular day. France & England ruled by crazy Globalist fags.

People don't realize it, but what the globalists have done to the US they have also done to all of Europe. Switzerland did not enter the EU and, up until now, has been fiercely nationalistic. Interesting how it also is a very rich country per capita compared to all the EU countries. Nationalism works. We should let Trump try to implement it here at home. Instead, the globalists want to implement socialism here, because this time it is sure to finally work.

 

[task0778]

I really don't think Iran can keep it under threat for too long. Unless China, Russia, Europe/NATO and a few other help Iran to keep it closed. If Iran doesn't just give up it is likely that Israel will use nukes and then Tehran and many other large Iranian cities will look like moon craters.

I would think the Russians would love to see the Straits closed for as long as possible cuz that means they get a higher price for their oil. The Chinese OTOH import oil from the ME, or so I thought; which means a closed Strait is not to their benefit. Ditto for Europe and NATO and every other country that imports oil. I don't believe it matters where the oil comes from, supply and demand pushes the price up if supply is reduced.

 

[JGalt]

It couldn't have anything to do with the Iran War just being another 100% pure sellout of our troops to the Israel Lobby....

Everyone on the planet sees through this BS except the Pro Israel Christians...

"Da Joos" is not an answer here. Israel is largely self-sufficient in natural gas, using its own offshore fields for domestic energy needs. It also imports roughly 220,000 barrels of oil daily from places like Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Gabon, Nigeria, and Brazil.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I would think the Russians would love to see the Straits closed for as long as possible cuz that means they get a higher price for their oil. The Chinese OTOH import oil from the ME, or so I thought; which means a closed Strait is not to their benefit. Ditto for Europe and NATO and every other country that imports oil. I don't believe it matters where the oil comes from, supply and demand pushes the price up if supply is reduced.

I'm not so sure the price of oil is what is important to the rest of the world. Europe still get a lot of oil and LNG from Russia and so does China. The globalists that run the world need Trump out of the way so they can exploit the world for maximum profit and with as little resistance as possible. They are hoping high prices for gas will put pressure on Trump. It won't. Iran will soon fall, and if it doesn't the military pressure will increase. Israel is itching to nuke Iran.

 

[protectionist]

It couldn't have anything to do with the Iran War just being another 100% pure sellout of our troops to the Israel Lobby....

Everyone on the planet sees through this BS except the Pro Israel Christians...

So you know absolutely nothing about Muslim jihad ? Sure looks like it.

 

[task0778]

I'm not so sure the price of oil is what is important to the rest of the world. Europe still get a lot of oil and LNG from Russia and so does China. The globalists that run the world need Trump out of the way so they can exploit the world for maximum profit and with as little resistance as possible. They are hoping high prices for gas will put pressure on Trump. It won't. Iran will soon fall, and if it doesn't the military pressure will increase. Israel is itching to nuke Iran.

Why do you think the price of gas in this country has zoomed upward since the Iran war? Supply dropped and demand didn't, and oil is a global commodity. 3 weeks ago the price of Russian oil was at $44.23 bbl, now it's $93.86 after going over $100 a few days ago.

I do not believe there are globalists that run the world. Influence maybe, but control? No. And I am not at all sure the current regime in Iran will change from the theocracy it is to something else, which or may not be any better. And I do not believe Israel wants to nuke Iran. In fact, it is the other way around, Iran wants to nuke Israel. Which was the impetus to go to war with Iran in the 1st place.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nah, this is dumb. Oil prices are global.

Sure, they figure its cheaper to sit it out. But also, they hope that Trump will end the operation sooner, if they are not enabling him.