This is why none of our EU "allies" are willing to protect the flow of oil and gas through the Strait of Hormuz

[EdwinAMartin]

Most likely the majority in Iran would rather secularize and join the rest of the world. But when given the chance to rise up they are silent. Why? We've been down this road before. We thought entering Afghanistan would cause the people to rise up against the Taliban, and nothing. I don't think like a politician, I think like an engineer who became a money man. Political solutions never work as intended; we need a definitive solution that makes the problem go away forever with the least cost possible. Let's hope the people of Iran prefer to get off their asses and overthrow their government before people like me start managing this war.

Yes, it's up to Iranians themselves. AS for us, we need to keep pounding their Mullahs' forces into dust and shutting down their offensive capabilities and terrorist fronts where ever they are, regardless, and not wait for a revolution.

 

[the watcher]

So you know absolutely nothing about Muslim jihad ? Sure looks like it.

They call it Jihad, we call it 'manifest destiny' or sometimes we use 'bringing freedom'. The results are the same.

 

[Dorian Mode]

They call it Jihad, we call it 'manifest destiny' or sometimes we use 'bringing freedom'. The results are the same.

Just remember, the victor gets to write the history.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Just remember, the victor gets to write the history.

Except in the West, where revisionism is a big industry.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Except in the West, where revisionism is a big industry.

Usually by the dumocraps. They still cling to the false narrative that they were against slavery, even though the dumocrap party was founded in part to protect slavery. They try to say they didn't create the KKK, the "new" republicans did and soon they will say the GOP created Identity Politics. Oh, and when Trump brings peace to the ME, and sets free Cuba and puts it and Venezuela on the right path away from socialism, the dumocraps will try to take credit for it by saying Trump was against everything the dumocraps wanted and they pushed Trump to do all of it. That's why I don't even bother listening to dumocraps today.

 

[Correll]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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We have been told for YEARS, that the EUROPEAN LEADERS are the real "ADULTS IN TEH ROOM".

They surely understand that oil is a global market. THey surely understand how ripples spread though the world economy.


And yet, they choose to do nothing about Iran blocking the straits.


Their feel feels were hurt, when Trump was not diplomatic with them.


So.... yeah.


THey are defining themselves as irrelevant and ungrateful children.

 

[Dorian Mode]

We have been told for YEARS, that the EUROPEAN LEADERS are the real "ADULTS IN TEH ROOM".

They surely understand that oil is a global market. THey surely understand how ripples spread though the world economy.


And yet, they choose to do nothing about Iran blocking the straits.


Their feel feels were hurt, when Trump was not diplomatic with them.


So.... yeah.


THey are defining themselves as irrelevant and ungrateful children.

The EU is firmly under the control of the globalists, who absolutely hate the nationalistic Trump. The globalists are scared shitless that a wave of nationalism will arise because of him. They can lose this battle to win the war against Trump. The money they will lose because of this battle is inconsequential to the money they will lose if Trump beats them.

 

[luiza]

Another reason

Tel Aviv burns as biggest ever missile wave devastates .

Do not mess with the Cheeky Chappies

 

[Correll]

The EU is firmly under the control of the globalists, who absolutely hate the nationalistic Trump. The globalists are scared shitless that a wave of nationalism will arise because of him. They can lose this battle to win the war against Trump. The money they will lose because of this battle is inconsequential to the money they will lose if Trump beats them.

That make complete sense.

Far more than any justification for this, that I have heard from the leftards.

 

[luiza]

That make complete sense.

Far more than any justification for this, that I have heard from the leftards.

As I have explained elsewhere Tehran literally owns a large part of the City of London .
Geo politics only makes sense when you have this depth of information -- which is absent here .

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, there is.

Israel has been a U.S. welfare state since 1947.

Trump invaded a country, without telling anyone but Bibi.
Trump degraded and insulted Europe for years.
Trump threatened to take over NATO countries.

Now, that his piss poor decision, that he was warned about, is biting the gullible, orange retard in the ass.
Trump and his cult whine.

Yep. Israel is one of them too. Not sure how you think that doesnt mean other countries arent our dependents, too.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Yep. Israel is one of them too. Not sure how you think that doesnt mean other countries arent our dependents, too.

All satellite countries of superpowers of the US, Russia and China are dependent, some more than others, on the countries they have an alliance to.

 

[luiza]

It’ s getting more humiliating by the day for Israel and the U.S. Zionists .
Held in contempt by the rest of the world , it seems just a matter of time before one or both of these Terrorist nations starts begging for a Cease Fire .
Whatever the final outcome these two awful States will remain Pariahs for many years .
How the self proclaimed mighty have fallen . Would you invite one to a party or social gathering ?
Not if you want to hold your head high in public and among decent people .

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

All largely reasonable.
But increasingly Americans are no longer trusted which also means that as a group they are liked less and less .
It will be interesting to watch how you behave as a group when you find the rest of the world expresses more than mistrust and dislike .

Jihadis Will Turn the Eurine Union into Jello

"Mistrust and dislike" = jealousy and mooching.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Using phone and internet tech brought to via the USA.

BTW, USA saved your country from having German as the primary language.
Had to do with Lend-Lease and all the USA military shipped over there to take out Nazi Germany.
Afterwards we had to help rebuild and feed your nation for a few years.

Great Britain had to courageously withstand Hitler's thrust intended to turn the Atlantic Ocean into a Nazi lake. Just like Israel standing alone in the real fighting against the Nazislamis now, England's steadfast endurance saved us from being overwhelmed.



Netanyahu is the Churchill of the Mideast.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

My understanding is the majority in Iran don't want a theocracy, but are too disarmed, unorganized, and terrorized to start an effective grassroots revolt. Yet. I think it might be doable if the USA seeds their insurgency.

Balkanize might be partially doable. Kurds and Bolocks would like their own pieces of the turf and such would pare down the size of Iran.

And the Arabs Annex Its Whole Persian Gulf Shore

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Rationalise to your heart’s content but it will not change the Judge’ verdict .
The most corrupt and undemocratic nation is about to pay the price it has created for itself .

The spectacle will become most painful and unedifying .

Baghdad Babbette

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It’ s getting more humiliating by the day for Israel and the U.S. Zionists .
Held in contempt by the rest of the world , it seems just a matter of time before one or both of these Terrorist nations starts begging for a Cease Fire .
Whatever the final outcome these two awful States will remain Pariahs for many years .
How the self proclaimed mighty have fallen . Would you invite one to a party or social gathering ?
Not if you want to hold your head high in public and among decent people .

A Worm in the Nile Will Squirm in Jihad-Denial

 

[JohnDB]

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Just remember, the victor gets to write the history.

The Chickenhawks Couldn't Have Stabbed Us in the Back If They Hadn't Already Taken away Our Backbone


The loser in Vietnam got to write the history as multicultie mush.