This is why none of our EU "allies" are willing to protect the flow of oil and gas through the Strait of Hormuz

[dudmuck]

America and Israel don't need Europe's help to do this mission. America no longer needs Europe and no longer should have to supplement it's defense either. I say cut them off and get out of NATO. Europe drags us down and holds us back. And they are not even allies anymore, they act more like enemies sometimes. When they realize how helpless they are without us then they will come back on their knees.

 

[EMH]

"Da Joos" is not an answer here. Israel is largely self-sufficient in natural gas, using its own offshore fields for domestic energy needs. It also imports roughly 220,000 barrels of oil daily from places like Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Gabon, Nigeria, and Brazil.

All the self proclaimed sub humans can do is toss cards.

Nobody here made any comment about israel's energy.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I like how you put allies in quotations. Because they are not our allies. They are our dependents. There is a difference.

Need American Troops Only

 

[Lockback]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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Well, that and the fact that Europe is run by pussies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As I understand it virtually all of Iran’s oil exports go through the Straight

Lets seize Kharg Island and cut off the mullah’s income

Strait of Hormuz, and it isn't straight!

 

[leftwinger]

//The Wine, Cheese and coke boys from France & England want Oil? Have at it. We already did the hard part. Bring them home now Sir Donald.//


I wonder what would happen if we “finished off” what’s left of the Iranian Terror State, and let the Countries that use it, we don’t, be responsible for the so called “Strait?” That would get some of our non-responsive “Allies” in gear, and fast!!! President DJT

 

[luiza]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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All largely reasonable.
But increasingly Americans are no longer trusted which also means that as a group they are liked less and less .
It will be interesting to watch how you behave as a group when you find the rest of the world expresses more than mistrust and dislike .
It is coming soon and is as sure as tomorrow will be Friday , as I type this on my phone very early in the morning .

 

[HikerGuy83]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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I think we should bomb Iran to hell.

 

[HikerGuy83]

It will be interesting to watch how you behave as a group when you find the rest of the world expresses more than mistrust and dislike .

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Why doesn't Trump know that?

A lot of Trump and MAGA supporters on this board seem to know a lot more about how the world works than Trump does.

I'm surprised they're not advising him rather than the usual fools.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I think we should bomb Iran to hell.

As unpopular as that would be, I agree. This problem with Iran will never go away. Reduce Iran to dust and then balkanize the territory and start over, with the new countries knowing what happens when you piss off the entire world.

 

[Stryder50]

So you know absolutely nothing about Muslim jihad ? Sure looks like it.

He's an agent of such.
Knows little else other than neo-nazi Jew hate.

 

[Stryder50]

All largely reasonable.
But increasingly Americans are no longer trusted which also means that as a group they are liked less and less .
It will be interesting to watch how you behave as a group when you find the rest of the world expresses more than mistrust and dislike .
It is coming soon and is as sure as tomorrow will be Friday , as I type this on my phone very early in the morning .

Using phone and internet tech brought to via the USA.

BTW, USA saved your country from having German as the primary language.
Had to do with Lend-Lease and all the USA military shipped over there to take out Nazi Germany.
Afterwards we had to help rebuild and feed your nation for a few years.

 

[Stryder50]

As unpopular as that would be, I agree. This problem with Iran will never go away. Reduce Iran to dust and then balkanize the territory and start over, with the new countries knowing what happens when you piss off the entire world.

My understanding is the majority in Iran don't want a theocracy, but are too disarmed, unorganized, and terrorized to start an effective grassroots revolt. Yet. I think it might be doable if the USA seeds their insurgency.

Balkanize might be partially doable. Kurds and Bolocks would like their own pieces of the turf and such would pare down the size of Iran.

 

[luiza]

Using phone and internet tech brought to via the USA.

BTW, USA saved your country from having German as the primary language.
Had to do with Lend-Lease and all the USA military shipped over there to take out Nazi Germany.
Afterwards we had to help rebuild and feed your nation for a few years.

Rationalise to your heart’s content but it will not change the Judge’ verdict .
The most corrupt and undemocratic nation is about to pay the price it has created for itself .

The spectacle will become most painful and unedifying .

 

[22lcidw]

People don't realize it, but what the globalists have done to the US they have also done to all of Europe. Switzerland did not enter the EU and, up until now, has been fiercely nationalistic. Interesting how it also is a very rich country per capita compared to all the EU countries. Nationalism works. We should let Trump try to implement it here at home. Instead, the globalists want to implement socialism here, because this time it is sure to finally work.

Nazi Germany's currency was separate from the globalists-controlled fiat currencies. No legalized middleman.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I like how you put allies in quotations. Because they are not our allies. They are our dependents. There is a difference.

Yes, there is.

Israel has been a U.S. welfare state since 1947.

Trump invaded a country, without telling anyone but Bibi.
Trump degraded and insulted Europe for years.
Trump threatened to take over NATO countries.

Now, that his piss poor decision, that he was warned about, is biting the gullible, orange retard in the ass.
Trump and his cult whine.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Using phone and internet tech brought to via the USA.

BTW, USA saved your country from having German as the primary language.
Had to do with Lend-Lease and all the USA military shipped over there to take out Nazi Germany.
Afterwards we had to help rebuild and feed your nation for a few years.

U.S. Entry into World War I, 1917​

Office of the Historian (.gov)
https://history.state.gov › Milestones › 1914-1920




On April 2, 1917, President Woodrow Wilson went before a joint session of Congress to request a declaration of war against Germany.

The House Declarations of War Against the Axis Powers​

US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives (.gov)
https://history.house.gov › Historical-Highlights › The-H...




... U.S. declared war on Germany and Italy on December 11, 1941. On this date, the House approved declarations of war against Axis Powers Germany and Italy—just ...


The mango Mussolini didn't ask anyone.

 

[Dorian Mode]

My understanding is the majority in Iran don't want a theocracy, but are too disarmed, unorganized, and terrorized to start an effective grassroots revolt. Yet. I think it might be doable if the USA seeds their insurgency.

Balkanize might be partially doable. Kurds and Bolocks would like their own pieces of the turf and such would pare down the size of Iran.

Most likely the majority in Iran would rather secularize and join the rest of the world. But when given the chance to rise up they are silent. Why? We've been down this road before. We thought entering Afghanistan would cause the people to rise up against the Taliban, and nothing. I don't think like a politician, I think like an engineer who became a money man. Political solutions never work as intended; we need a definitive solution that makes the problem go away forever with the least cost possible. Let's hope the people of Iran prefer to get off their asses and overthrow their government before people like me start managing this war.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

It's because the EU only gets 3.8% of that oil and gas. Europe gets 60% of their LNG and 21% of their crude oil from the US, depending on Norway, and Kazakhstan for the rest. The majority of crude oil passing through the Strait goes to China, India, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries.

This is somewhat of a conundrum. I can't see China getting involved in keeping the Strait open, and Indian military involvement there would be a major clusterfuck, because they're at odds with China. I think if Europe isn't willing to help us with this problem, we should cut off all oil and gas exports to them. South Korea and Japan also needs to step up and make some kind of contribution.


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Add to that the Alaskan LNG pipeline will end Korea's, Japan's, and Taiwan's dependence on ME imports, and remove the Panama canal bottleneck for our Asian allies. Trump signed that bill his first day in office. Yet another win for Trump's Presidency and another loss for Red China.