THIS Is Why Energy Independence WAS So Important

[Jim H - VA USA]

The US still imports 7.5 million bpd. We have never been energy independent.

Nonsense.

Weekly U.S. Net Imports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Weekly U.S. Exports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

 

[JohnDB]

Nonsense.

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Weekly U.S. Net Imports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels per Day)

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Weekly U.S. Exports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Yeah... everyone is just about tired of all the misinformation he/she posts.... haven't seen one post that was accurate about anything from her/him.

 

[surada]

Yeah... everyone is just about tired of all the misinformation he/she posts.... haven't seen one post that was accurate about anything from her/him.

U.S. Imports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

U.S. Imports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

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[surada]

The US hasn't imported much oil from OPEC since 2008.

The U.S. Still Imports A Lot Of Oil

In the shale-era since 2008, U. S. crude oil production has boomed 160% to over 13 million b/d, while demand has remained flat. Yet still, the country imports more oil than most Americans may realize.

www.forbes.com

 

[surada]

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Those are not net imports, silly.

Net imports, on a monthly basis, during Trump's final months, were negative.

Producing as much or more energy as a country needs is the widely-accepted definition of energy independence.

Just like a financially-independent person might still have some loans. We ship oil across borders in both directions where it makes sense to do so. Examples: US bases in foreign locations, near Canadian and Mexican border.

 

[surada]

Those are not net imports, silly.

Net imports, on a monthly basis, during Trump's final months, were negative.

Producing as much ore more energy as a country needs is the widely-accepted definition of energy independence.

Just like a financially-independent person might still have some loans.

Of course.. There was no demand in 2020 because of the Covid pandemic, but we went right back to importing 7-8 million bpd.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The US still imports 7.5 million bpd.

And we export nearly that much. Why do you always leave that out?

 

[surada]

And we export nearly that much. Why do you always leave that out?

We export about 2.5 million bpd in refined products.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We export about 2.5 million bpd in refined products.

U.S. Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels per Day)

www.eia.gov

U.S. Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products

www.eia.gov

Are you a liar?
Or just ignorant?

 

[surada]

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U.S. Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels per Day)

www.eia.gov

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U.S. Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products

www.eia.gov

Are you a liar?
Or just ignorant?

Do you understand what you are reading?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you understand what you are reading?

I understand that I refuted your 2.5 million bpd claim.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Of course.. There was no demand in 2020 because of the Covid pandemic, but we went right back to importing 7-8 million bpd.

Um, we were discussing your statement that the US has never been energy independent. Now you say, "yeah, but..."

Despite the pandemic, US oil production dramatically surged under Trump. Increased ~45% in just three years, and was still up ~25% at end of term.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

I don't think it's possible to find "consumption" of crude oil, as it is petroleum products which are "consumed," but it is indisputable that we produced more under trump, more than we consumed, as we were a net exporter.

 

[surada]

Um, we were discussing your statement that the US has never been energy independent. Now you say, "yeah, but..."

Despite the pandemic, US oil production dramatically surged under Trump. Increased ~45% in just three years, and was still up ~25% at end of term.

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U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

I don't think it's possible to find "consumption" of crude oil, as it is petroleum products which are "consumed," but it is indisputable that we produced more under trump, more than we consumed, as we were a net exporter.

How much oil do domestic producers produce every year and how much do we use in the US?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How much oil do domestic producers produce every year and how much do we use in the US?

We export about 2.5 million bpd in refined products.

How much do we really export?