Zone1 This is what the United States (multiple religions) has come to...

[Donald H]

He's not calling for violence but opposition, non cooperation, rebellion.

Call it as you see it.
I see it as the same as what you claim.
Trump's people may very well take to the streets with their AR's in hand but choose to not use them.

But then there's the possibility that Trump will judge that he's not as big as the law in America.

 

[nomadic5]

Where and how does one obtain the grace of God and the indwelling of the HS?
Ask. It's a gift. If you are looking to be given this gift in a Church you won't find it.

shows what you know. In the TRUE Catholic Church, there is grace abounding.

I know. I have been there... often.

you likely have not

 

[nomadic5]

Trump's people may very well take to the streets with their AR's in hand but choose to not use them.

But did you complain when leftists thugs destroyed cities in 2020 and beyond?

I will search your past threads / posts to find out

 

[Donald H]

you can't reason with leftists. They don't understand it.

I fully understand that Evilcatbreathe could be right!

A peaceful demonstration with AR's ready as a threat could be all that it takes to cause the law to back down.

We're at least raising the possibilities!
I can't quite see Trump's faithful taking to the streets emptyhanded this time.

 

[Donald H]

But did you complain when leftists thugs destroyed cities in 2020 and beyond?

I will search your past threads / posts to find out

Of course I didn't complain! I'm a Canadian and I saw that violence as a necessary step in the process.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Call it as you see it.
I see it as the same as what you claim.
Trump's people may very well take to the streets with their AR's in hand but choose to not use them.

But then there's the possibility that Trump will judge that he's not as big as the law in America.

You have absolutely no conception of what can happen when the People give up on the government. The elections are fixed. The courts are rigged. Justice is dead. No one is legitimately in charge.

Look at the cities, the streets and see them 100 times worse.

 

[Donald H]

I used that link to show just how rotten our country is and how and why we have fallen so far...

When a true relationship with Christ fails

OH WOW... so shocking that our nation fails!!

I'm not making an appeal to the moderators to move this thread. I chose to bring it to your attention as it being another step toward the abuse of the intent of the rules.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I fully understand that Evilcatbreathe could be right!

A peaceful demonstration with AR's ready as a threat could be all that it takes to cause the law to back down.

We're at least raising the possibilities!
I can't quite see Trump's faithful taking to the streets emptyhanded this time.

But not against the government. The government will be dismissed as a non player character. Against each other.

 

[Donald H]

You have absolutely no conception of what can happen when the People give up on the government. The elections are fixed. The courts are rigged. Justice is dead. No one is legitimately in charge.

Look at the cities, the streets and see them 100 times worse.

If you look back on what I've said, you will see that I claimed that this is premature on Trump's part.

The reality is closer to Trump not needing to make the call to demonstrate with the threat of armed supporters.

The American system appears to be all that Trump will need to allow him to be the president again. All action against him can be expected to be postponed until after he's elected. Then he will either pardon himself or have himself pardoned.

 

[Donald H]

But not against the government. The government will be dismissed as a non player character. Against each other.

Yes! Government could very well be dismissed!

 

[rightwinger]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-jack-smith-indictment/2023/07/20/id/1127852/?ns_mail_uid=072af559-3f0f-4ceb-90f2-eaca4ca261f8&ns_mail_job=DM502681_07202023&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502mw45q7

Our govt institutions are conspiring (yes, conspiring) to STOP a popular candidate running for president

from doing that. They will stop at nothing, apparently.

They know Americans are God-fearing and law-abiding (for the most part) so "they" think that these multiple indictments against said popular candidate will do the trick.

This makes me want to choose Trump over DeSantis, although I really haven't decided yet.

But the point of this thread is that America was founded on religious freedom. It was good, at least in some ways, for our new nation to want to protect ALL religions. But when a religion is DANGEROUS to individuals, it is dangerous to the state, which obviously is comprised of numerous individuals.

And many religions the US has accepted are indeed dangerous. I don't have to remind people of the beliefs of extreme Islam (hopefully?) w/ its Sharia law, etc.

But there are religions that are dangerous in a more seemingly subtle way. A lot of non-Catholics (maybe even some Catholics.. subconsciously?) believe in easy salvation.. aka Once Saved Always Saved. This is a FALSE religion and yet I feel the entire country practices some version of it... It's the old "God is too loving to reject me just because I sin" argument.

Well, guess what? We humans are despicable in our inclination toward sin and nothing but sin. So there's that... St Paul said that we humans must "undergo many hardships in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven"

Then there's this scripture: "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling" (Phil 2:12?)

Why fear and trembling? Well, in another Scripture we are told that "Fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom" (Proverbs 1, I believe)
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Is Trump paying off a Porn Star religious freedom?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yes! Government could very well be dismissed!

Completely ignored.

 

[nomadic5]

Of course I didn't complain!

We rest our case (about leftists' double standards, the only "standards" they have..)

 

[nomadic5]

I'm not making an appeal to the moderators to move this thread. I chose to bring it to your attention as it being another step toward the abuse of the intent of the rules.

I don't see it as abuse of anything. My point was (since you don't seem to get it)

having the wrong religion has consequences

massive, egregious, hideous, seemingly irreversible consequences..

I want my country back!

Trump '24

or DeSantis, one or the other

 

[nomadic5]

There is only ONE Truth (RE GOD)

There is only ONE Church Christ founded

Any "church" that deviates significantly, heretically, from that Ancient Established Church

is leading people astray, sometimes to the point of them ending up in Hell.

Besides, why would anyone want to deviate from a CHURCH Christ Himself established?

No one who knows what he is doing would...

 

[nomadic5]

so if you ever ask yourself

How did this country come to... THIS?

fags gyrating in front of our innocent children... supposed adults pushing porn in schools... babies being murdered up until the 9th month in states like NY

well, what is happening in our country and also around the world is only the natural consequence of human beings living without any connection to GOD (who will not tolerate our egregious sinning forever--but you can't tell the libs that)

a connection that used to come to us through the auspices of the (true) Catholic Church, but some of us know what happened to that once beautiful institution

It's still beautiful... if only you can find it (most SSPX and Sedevacantist Churches are hundreds of miles away from us)