Zone1 What Is Christian Nationalism?

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Once they are separated the fetus is not her body anymore. Is That really that difficult to understand.

Listen to you now arguing it's a separate person.

 

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How is saying no to baby farms telling a woman what she can do with her body

Have you ever been trained in logic and reasoning( I mean just simple basics

Yes, that's how I know I have you in a pickle and you'll be obsessing over this forever.

 

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Right about now, Johnny is rethinking his position. Apparently he has too strong of a conscience to argue such idiotic positions as W.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Yes, that's how I know I have you in a pickle and you'll be obsessing over this forever.

But you ran from this question:

“How is saying no to baby farms telling a woman what she can do with her body”

 

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But you ran from this question:

“How is saying no to baby farms telling a woman what she can do with her body”

It's her property. It's her choice. There's nothing morally wrong with it. Right?

No different than her kidney, right? Can she sell her kidney?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Your believing farming babies for parts is the logical conclusion of abortion not being a misdemeanor.

But when push comes to shove, you are arguing abortion is wrong.

No, dingbat, no.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

It's her property. It's her choice.

It’s not her choice to set up a a commercial agency to write her a check.


I am opposed to setting up the agency that writes the check. That has nothing to do with her choice to terminate her pregnancy with your creepy nose stuck in it.

 

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No, dingbat, no.

It's great that you see a moral distinction between the two but the outcome is still the same. Dead babies.

 

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It’s not her choice to set up a a commercial agency to write her a check.


I am opposed to setting up the agency that writes the check. That has nothing to do with her choice to terminate her pregnancy with your creepy nose stuck in it.

No different than a kidney. Why are you telling her what she can do with her kidney?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

No, dingbat, no.

Saint_Ding is better off running when he gets stuck.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's great that you see a moral distinction between the two but the outcome is still the same. Dead babies.

No, ding, no. It is not your business.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, dingbat, no: fetuses are not unborn children.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

No different than a kidney. Why are you telling her what she can do with her kidney?

I didn’t say she can’t sell her kidney.

You are making a false equivalence.

A fetus is not a life sustaining organ.
When a fetus is separated it is dead and the risk to the birth mother is reduced

A healthy kidney is a life sustaining organ.
When a healthy kidney is removed the risk to the health of the donor increases.

A kidney and fetus are different. You have failed once again Saint _Ding

I just noticed this phrase in Jefferson’s letter to the Danberry Baptists

“ the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions”


Saint Ding’s opinion on aborttion becomes violent “action“ against pregnant woman when his opinion is placed in the power of Christianized white males in state legislatures, state attorneys general, in governors, in the Republican party in general and in Don Trump and the Supreme Court that he himself created.to give such corrupt and violent power to the states.

The government telling both genders they can’t sell a kidney is not a violent act against the heath and safety of the donors but in fact it is the opposite.

Saint_Ding’d kidney argument is stupid


playtime said: Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists. The Final Letter, as Sent

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

 

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W gets erections from discussing abortion. There's no thread he won't hijack to satisfy his blood lust.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

W gets erections from discussing abortion. There's no thread he won't hijack to satisfy his blood lust.

If you could get an erection, the discussion of abortions would get you up.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

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i “PBS says we must fear the "white Christian Nationalist" 240213 {post•1}. Foxfyre Feb’24 Spswmf: “As for this being a Christian nation, the Founders certainly saw that as the way things should be.”

--Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.- "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."--Thomas Jefferson jffrsn​

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ii. Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240523. {post•85}. NotfooledbyW May’24 Vpiwtt: Rated…in order from ..benign to destructive toward the institution of democracy

1. nationalism
2. white Christian nationalism
3. white nationslism

Don Trump is all three.

Don Trump appeals to all three but his political existence and strength is entirely dependent on working class culture war voters obsessed in groupthink 2.

Unchurched Republicans desperately need groupthink 2 so they may placate and defend the male dominance, the sexual aversions and the rejection of objective facts based reality or abandonment of truth/based material assessment of what is going on in the public square within the limits of groupthink 2. nfbw 240523 Vpiwtt00085


iii. What Is Christian Nationalism? 240725 {post•396}.

NotfooledbyW Jul’24 Vwicnz: Every time Saint_Ding complains that I hijack threads it is related to every time Saint_Ding gets stuck or dead ended on one of his many fallacies and failures of logic,

Overturning RvW is related to Don Trump who is related to MAGA which is related to white Christian nationalism that is related to lies about Thomas Jefferson who absolutely never believed that Jesus Christ was anything more than a mortal human being just like the rest of us born of a normal human couple who had sex.

And jffrsn believed that Jesus did not rise from the dead.

But Saint _Ding “liked” POST i. copied above. Saint _Ding Likes lies that are promoted by white Christian nationalism.

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[Sherlock Holmes]

Christian Nationalism is one of many forms of fake Christianity popular in the United States. It's essentially a type of idolatry where national political ambitions supersede and replace the concerns conventionally associated with being a Christian.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nationalism and populism replace the message of Jesus in Christian nationalism.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How can anyone who affirmed the existence of the God of Nature whose attributes included being a providential, moralistic creator whose existence and causal relation to the world was essential to the foundations of natural-rights not be a great example of a Christian heritage, right?

Every Christian believer must believe the fundamental tenet unique to Christianity that God faults or condemns all humanity for the sin of the first man he created.,

Jefferson rejects the whole shebang rebated to original sin and salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ.

They all affirmed the existence of the God of Nature whose attributes included being a providential, moralistic creator whose existence and causal relation to the world was essential to the foundations of natural-rights just like every other Christian believed. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

Thomas Jefferson, Nature’s God, and the Theological Foundations of Natural-Rights Repub​

We have the answer to what is Christian nationalism. it is Republicans in control of all three branches of government and not giving a damn about the founding principle of separation of church and state.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

the founding principle of separation of church and state

Too bad you have no idea what that actually means