This is what atheist believe? Atheist believe that nothing created everything

Thats something of an indictment as to the ineffectiveness of the Christian.
It shows how sinful men are

We all have a choice to make

and the world guided by Satan - meaning wealth, power, sex, drugs and comfort looks better than obedience to God to more and more people
The world is guided by a “Satan”?

Are the gods too weak and ineffectual to do anything about that?

How do I know that your posts aren’t guided by “Satan”?
Are the gods too weak and ineffectual to do anything about that?

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He could

But rather than treat His creation like puppets on a string we have free will

And libs choose not to obey God or even admit that He exists
So why pray to your gods if the "Satan" character is preeminent over your gods? Any favors your prayer may curry can be overuled by "Satan". Is "Satan" really the red character with horns and a pitchfork?
The same god that created the universe and humans created Satan.

The real question is why would a loving creator unleash Satan on his creations?
 
why pray to your gods if the "Satan" character is preeminent over your gods?
Why choose God over Satan?

You cant be serious

If you think Hell is going to be one never ending party like Spring Break in Florida you will be sadly disappointed
 
real question is why would a loving creator unleash Satan on his creations?
Ghats a question no one can answer

Or at least I cant

Its enough to know that God is endless while Satan’s time is limited
 
Thats something of an indictment as to the ineffectiveness of the Christian.
It shows how sinful men are

We all have a choice to make

and the world guided by Satan - meaning wealth, power, sex, drugs and comfort looks better than obedience to God to more and more people
Yes. We all have choices to make. If, as you noted, the gods provided for free will, then the gods are not punitive when people exercise their free will not to believe in that which is unsupported and unverified; the gods.
 
why pray to your gods if the "Satan" character is preeminent over your gods?
Why choose God over Satan?

You cant be serious

If you think Hell is going to be one never ending party like Spring Break in Florida you will be sadly disappointed
I never suggested choosing one over the other. Your comments identify that "Satan" is as powerful as your gods. Any favors you request from the gods could seemingly be nullified by "Satan".

Oddly, you seem to have stripped the gods of their "all powerful" attribute.
 
then the gods are not punitive when people exercise their free will not to believe in that which is unsupported and unverified; the gods.
If you are planning to plead stupidity when you see St Peter good luck with that

You have had plenty of chances to repent and didnt take them
 
then the gods are not punitive when people exercise their free will not to believe in that which is unsupported and unverified; the gods.
If you are planning to plead stupidity when you see St Peter good luck with that

You have had plenty of chances to repent and didnt take them
Implied threats? Have the gods assigned you as their enforcer?

Why would your gods allow free will and then punish people for making considered choices and exercising their free will?

What crimes against your gods do I need to repent for?
 
never suggested choosing one over the other. Your comments identify that "Satan" is as powerful as your gods.
Not as powerful

Satan cant change his fate

Hell will be as miserable for him as it will for those who follow him there
 
and the world guided by Satan - meaning wealth, power, sex, drugs and comfort looks better than obedience to God to more and more people
How do I know that your posts aren’t guided by “Satan”?
And libs choose not to obey God or even admit that He exists
But then in typical lib fashion, having made your choice you want to blame the consequences of that on someone else
Why the obsession with libertarians?
 
and the world guided by Satan - meaning wealth, power, sex, drugs and comfort looks better than obedience to God to more and more people
How do I know that your posts aren’t guided by “Satan”?
And libs choose not to obey God or even admit that He exists
But then in typical lib fashion, having made your choice you want to blame the consequences of that on someone else
Why the obsession with libertarians?
Lib can mean libertarian, liberal or libertine

Though in many cases it means all three
 
Lib can mean libertarian, liberal or libertine

Though in many cases it means all three
10 points for "libertine." Thanks. That hadn't occurred to me as a possibility. But
-20 for imagining "libertarians" working together with "liberals" in the small "L" sense. They could hardly be more opposite. The former being hyper focused upon "free markets" (money/power) with the latter promoting civil rights and happiness. Nixon inspired libertarianism by demonstrating nowhere near enough hatred or selfishness for many on the hard right.

Always conspicuously missing from the equation remain the most rich and powerful. The ones with too much. Currently the billionaire stock holders. Hiding behind corporate loopholes of their own making. Paying virtually zero taxes. All while leveraging any sort of division for their individual gain alone, real or manufactured. These bastards are why governments shall always be required. They are the ones who push nations into wars none would entertain otherwise. Job one for government is protecting the people (providing security) from those always demanding far too much. Megalomaniacs.
 
20 for imagining "libertarians" working together with "liberals" in the small "L" sense.
It depends on the issue

For instance many libertarians believe that government has no right to prevent migrants from entering the US

Many liberals support bigger government but also think that migrants from latin America will undermine and dilute white conservative power

Plus there are tons of liberals who are ashamed to admit it and fly the libertarian flag instead
 
20 for imagining "libertarians" working together with "liberals" in the small "L" sense.
It depends on the issue

For instance many libertarians believe that government has no right to prevent migrants from entering the US

Many liberals support bigger government but also think that migrants from latin America will undermine and dilute white conservative power

Plus there are tons of liberals who are ashamed to admit it and fly the libertarian flag instead
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Many liberals support bigger government but also think that migrants from latin America will undermine and dilute white conservative power
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that's what you think - history is replete with the disadvantaged that are empowered turning on their benefactors, south florida and the florida legislature is a perfect example - commie hating immigrants to the last one of them.
 

Atheist believe that nothing created everything​


Which atheist said that, and what did they mean by "nothing"?
Most people do not understand quantum physics.

I am not an extreme atheist, but I understand they simply do not believe in or practice theism (a-theist).
 

Atheist believe that nothing created everything​


Which atheist said that, and what did they mean by "nothing"?
Most people do not understand quantum physics.

I am not an extreme atheist, but I understand they simply do not believe in or practice theism (a-theist).

There is a default owing to the only two possible alternatives:
A. Either Nature's God, as specified in our Founding Documents, on every bill of currency, and on and on, created the Universe or,
B. Nothing made it.

To the extent you have a third option, please elaborate for all to read and consider.

Physicists don't understand quantum physics. Please explain how electrons are both waves and particles. Explain how electrons form the hard surfaces of all known metals, liquids, and gases. Explain the materialistic synthesis of 10,000 polypeptides in the human body, including how each successive amino acid was sequenced into every protein such as titin, 33,450 residues in length. Explain how L enantiomers were *selected* exclusively, and explain how every protein was exquisitely folded so precisely by the magic hand of *selection*.
What is the probability of building titin ( 1/20 to the 33,450th power times 1/2 to the 33,450th power x 1/2 to the 33,450th power)? The final power refers to the fifty-fifty probability of a peptide bond forming versus a non-peptide bond, which won't work. Biochemists have determined that when proteins are synthesized randomly, only 1 in 10 to the 150th or so are functional. That's essentially zero. Richard Dawkins defines "impossible" as 1 chance in 10 to the 40th or less. Again, what's 1/20 to the 33,450th?
 

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