"Climate change" and environmental hysteria used to implement control, not save environment

[EMH]

Rising seas are wreaking havoc in some low-lying regions.

WHERE ??

SHOW US A PHOTO OF "RISING SEAS?"

 

[Ringo]

It turns out that legendary activist Greta Thunberg's fortune is $18 million and she owns 9 cars and 6 houses.

 

[martybegan]

So, do you believe an unrestricted consumption based society is sustainable? Resources would have to be infinite for that to be possible, Shirley?

I'd rather deal with the impacts directly then lower my standard of living due to decree on the basis it "may do something"

 

[Crick]

It turns out that legendary activist Greta Thunberg's fortune is $18 million and she owns 9 cars and 6 houses.

And what might be your source for this information?

 

[marvin martian]

I have excerpted an excellent article Here are some links to the cited article which my be paywalled, which is sourced at bottom of quote (link) and (link).

During the 1970's and before a belief developed that our consumption-based society was unsustainable. This philosophy of life was expressed in the U.S. via books such as the 1950's classic by John Kenneth Galbraith, The Affluent Society. This was foreshadowed by other authors and thinkers, such as Travels with Charley: In Search of America by John Steinbeck. In Travels Steinbeck rails against conspicuous consumption and other signs of affluence. There was also the Club of Rome report, written over a period between 1968 and 1972, affiliated with MIT (link). This was at the end of the sunshiny era of the 1950's and early 1960's, a halcyon ear when grown was promoted. It was mostly a "let the good times roll" era, until it wasn't. The "Arab Oil Embargo," for example, was seized upon as an excuse to limit highway speeds to 55 m.p.h. and the "Club of Rome" mentality became general.

The "intellectual" movement was largely ineffectual in changing anything. Thus, an emergency had to be conjured where we were doomed if we did not take "action," however futile. As this article points out, the fulcrum which the "movement" uses is keyed to control, not effectiveness.

Obviously. Look at all the DemoKKKrat dopes here who whine about "global warming", then cheer loudly that Biden/Harris are drilling more oil than ever before.

 

[Crick]

Obviously. Look at all the DemoKKKrat dopes here who whine about "global warming", then cheer loudly that Biden/Harris are drilling more oil than ever before.

Where and when have you seen anyone on this forum do as you describe?

 

[Crick]

I have excerpted an excellent article Here are some links to the cited article which my be paywalled, which is sourced at bottom of quote (link) and (link).

During the 1970's and before a belief developed that our consumption-based society was unsustainable. This philosophy of life was expressed in the U.S. via books such as the 1950's classic by John Kenneth Galbraith, The Affluent Society. This was foreshadowed by other authors and thinkers, such as Travels with Charley: In Search of America by John Steinbeck. In Travels Steinbeck rails against conspicuous consumption and other signs of affluence. There was also the Club of Rome report, written over a period between 1968 and 1972, affiliated with MIT (link). This was at the end of the sunshiny era of the 1950's and early 1960's, a halcyon ear when grown was promoted. It was mostly a "let the good times roll" era, until it wasn't. The "Arab Oil Embargo," for example, was seized upon as an excuse to limit highway speeds to 55 m.p.h. and the "Club of Rome" mentality became general.

The "intellectual" movement was largely ineffectual in changing anything. Thus, an emergency had to be conjured where we were doomed if we did not take "action," however futile. As this article points out, the fulcrum which the "movement" uses is keyed to control, not effectiveness.

By what distortion of reality do you describe the 1950s as "sunshiny"?

 

[JBG]

By what distortion of reality do you describe the 1950s as "sunshiny"?

After Korea and McCarthy I would consider them halcyon. You know, Elvis, Leave It To Beaver, Ozzie and Harriet. Interstate highways, Golden Arches. It was an era when anything seemed possible.

And I was born in 1957.

 

[Crick]

After Korea and McCarthy I would consider them halcyon.

Do you mean "except for Korea and McCarthy"?

You know, Elvis, Leave It To Beaver, Ozzie and Harriet. Interstate highways, Golden Arches. It was an era when anything seemed possible.

And I was born in 1957.

Don't give away DoB info.

If you were born in 1957, your personal experience is limited to crib and pacifier design.

 

[ding]

Where and when have you seen anyone on this forum do as you describe?

You're kidding, right? Everytime oil prices are over $100 per barrel.

 

[JBG]

Do you mean "except for Korea and McCarthy"?

Don't give away DoB info.

If you were born in 1957, your personal experience is limited to crib and pacifier design.

What I mean is that the decade got off to a rough start but it was one of our happier eras. Let's say 1954-63 were pretty good years. As far as DOB information I believe it's in my profile. Look if you are so inclined. I'm a pretty "open-book" kind of person.

 

[Crick]

What I mean is that the decade got off to a rough start but it was one of our happier eras. Let's say 1954-63 were pretty good years. As far as DOB information I believe it's in my profile. Look if you are so inclined. I'm a pretty "open-book" kind of person.

I'm not so inclined and there is a place for it in your profile, but you needn't put correct info there. I didn't.

I can't even remember what the topic was. Where did the sunshiny 1950s fit in?

 

[JBG]

I'm not so inclined and there is a place for it in your profile, but you needn't put correct info there. I didn't.

I can't even remember what the topic was. Where did the sunshiny 1950s fit in?

I was talking about was my view that the panic over climate change has arisen as a result of more recent pessimism. During the 50s and 60s, this pessimism and gloom was largely limited to intellectuals. They have spread it to the general population through the drumbeat of nonstop coverage.

 

[Crick]

I was talking about was my view that the panic over climate change has arisen as a result of more recent pessimism. During the 50s and 60s, this pessimism and gloom was largely limited to intellectuals. They have spread it to the general population through the drumbeat of nonstop coverage.

It sounds as if you're complaining that the public got educated.

 

[JBG]

It sounds as if you're complaining that the public got educated.

I'm complaining about the mentality where people are prepared to be locked down "for their own good." Back in the day no one would have tolerated climate or Covid lockdowns.

 

[Crick]

I'm complaining about the mentality where people are prepared to be locked down "for their own good." Back in the day no one would have tolerated climate or Covid lockdowns.

Would lockdowns have been a good idea during the Black Death?

 

[Crick]

The "intellectual" movement was largely ineffectual in changing anything.

What was "The 'intellectual' movement"?

 

[Crick]

Would lockdowns have been a good idea during the Black Death?

What was "The 'intellectual' movement"?

I'm not sure JBG is around any more. If anyone else wants to take these on I wouldn't mind.

 

[ding]

I'm not sure JBG is around any more. If anyone else wants to take these on I wouldn't mind.

Why stop at lock downs? Why not have the government control prices, wages and profits too?

 

[Crick]

Anyone?