This is Weird. Greenland's Danish Rulers Reject Hospital for Sick Greenlanders because it is Donald Trump who is Offering it.

[CrusaderFrank]

Why? You want the people on the ship to be killed by Islamic radicals?

What if some of the crew members are Trans? You know what Islamic nations to do transfolk?

Clearly

 

[Robert W]

Don't invent an evasion. You still haven't answered the question: Hawaii, where I visited in 1981, is an island in the Pacific ocean. "Who is the ruler of Hawaii?"

What makes you believe they have one?

 

[GLASNOST]

Why? You want the people on the ship to be killed by Islamic radicals?

What if some of the crew members are Trans? You know what Islamic nations to do transfolk?

People should obey the laws of whatever country they are in. Everyone knows that.

 

[GLASNOST]

What makes you believe they have one?

What makes you think Greenland does?

 

[braalian]

Don't invent an evasion. You still haven't answered the question: Hawaii, where I visited in 1981, is an island in the Pacific ocean. "Who is the ruler of Hawaii?"

Hawaii is a full fledged state of the union

You might as well ask “who is the ruler of Ohio?”

 

[Robert W]

What makes you think Greenland does?

What makes you think I do?

 

[GLASNOST]

What makes you think I do?

Because you are defending the OP who says that it does.

 

[Robert W]

Because you are defending the OP who says that it does.

67 past posts and you accuse me of that? See, you just told me who you want to argue with. See the OP

 

[GLASNOST]

See, you just told me who you want to argue with. See the OP

Yes sure, so why did you barge into the kitchen with post #15 and #26?

 

[toobfreak]

I gave up on him publicly doing that. I still value him.

I stop short of giving up on him. Despite my best efforts, all I get in my daily life are a few sound bites on TV, a few web articles, a few discussions. And a few journalistic coverages for all that can be trusted worth these days.

I gotta figure I'm lucky if I'm really getting 2% of the whole story compared to the actual POTUS, which really ain't that bad all considered.

I buffer that by not making rash judgements, instead, making a guess but then sitting back and seeing how things really pan out in the long run compared to how I was promised.

So far, Trump actually has a remarkably high return rate on succeeding on getting done pretty much what he shot for, which is impressive considering on most issues, he is literally bucking the system 180° showing all that the career politicians have been gaming the system for themselves for years.

 

[Robert W]

I stop short of giving up on him. Despite my best efforts, all I get in my daily life are a few sound bites on TV, a few web articles, a few discussions. And a few journalistic coverages for all that can be trusted worth these days.

I gotta figure I'm lucky if I'm really getting 2% of the whole story compared to the actual POTUS, which really ain't that bad all considered.

I buffer that by not making rash judgements, instead, making a guess but then sitting back and seeing how things really pan out in the long run compared to how I was promised.

So far, Trump actually has a remarkably high return rate on succeeding on getting done pretty much what he shot for, which is impressive considering on most issues, he is literally bucking the system 180° showing all that the career politicians have been gaming the system for themselves for years.

I Believe I understand more now. Fortunately for this forum you post here. And your approach is very good.

Today I posted this forum a CSPAN talk by Ret. Lt. Mike DeLong where he discusses what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq and some mistakes made. This is the link. The press simply did a terrible job explaining all of this. A great book by General Tommy Franks is super too. American Soldier if you want to check it out.

[A General Speaks Out]

Retired Marine Lieutenant General Michael DeLong talked about his book [A General Speaks Out: The Truth About the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq], published by Zenith Press. He served as second in command to General Tommy Franks at U.S. Central Command (CentCom). He gave a behind-the-scenes look...

www.c-span.org

 

[toobfreak]

Today I posted this forum a CSPAN talk by Ret. Lt. Mike DeLong where he discusses what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq and some mistakes made. This is the link.

Too bad the video doesn't load in my older web browser, it sounds like something worth listening to.

 

[Robert W]

Too bad the video doesn't load in my older web browser, it sounds like something worth listening to.

This is by DeLong having a different interview.

This about the General Tommy franks plan and it was his. Not Bush or Rumsfeld or the CIA.

It went extremely well on purpose, because [of] the amount of homework that we did. We went back to Hannibal, to Genghis Kahn and the Khyber Rifles, the Brits, the Russians, [asking] who had been successful in Afghanistan. And if they were, how were they successful?

The only ones that had ever been successful in Afghanistan were the ones who had used the Afghan people, and then when the war was over, the Afghan people got to govern themselves. And we figured, well, that's the way to go. The Russian way didn't work at all because they lost 50,000 people, hundreds of airplanes and helicopters. The Brits got almost a brigade destroyed there in the Khyber Pass. And so how are we going to do this? We bring in Russian platoon commanders, company commanders that were now generals back in '79, and they walk us through what they did, the problems they had, the issues they had.

But what we did is we went through a checklist. OK, here's the things we're going to do: We're going to use the Northern Alliance army. The Taliban had just killed the revered Afghan leader [Ahmed Shah] Massoud ... on the 9th or the 10th of September [2001]. That was a key right there, when he was assassinated. So we knew we had to use a Northern Alliance army somehow to get rid of the Taliban. We knew we had to get the Afghan people behind us, which meant we probably had to get stuff in there to feed them.

We had to provide [for] how do we get the Northern Alliance army that's about the fifth the size of the Taliban army -- how do we make them successful? Well, we thought we could do it with firepower, which meant injecting special forces teams that had access to air to drop bombs, precision weapons where we wanted it, and CIA intelligence teams together with them so they had the best intelligence in the world and the best weapons in the world. The terrain was so rough, you couldn't use artillery; you had to use air. So that was our plan, to feed the Afghan people to make the Northern Alliance successful, and at the end, allow them to elect their own leaders. From one month after we went in, [Afghan President Hamid] Karzai was elected as the temporary head, one month [after] the entire war. For all practical purposes, war fighting was over.

 

[toobfreak]

Greenland rejected a seemingly impromptu plan by Donald Trump to send a hospital boat to the island
Nowhere in the story does Denmark say they are sending their own hospital shop or building a hospital in Greenland to provide desperately needed healthcare.

Well, that's that then. We send some plague virus to the island that loves the cold and exterminate the population, then we move in and declare it a new territory of the USA, a new, undiscovered country, our 51st state. We can call it The Trump Mineral Mining Company.

 

[braalian]

Apparently, you do not mind that if a Greenlander suffers a heart attack or cancer, he has to travel to Denmark and get on their waiting list.

That obviously isn’t true. They obviously have emergency medical care.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I've seen no report of this 'reached out'. Did you reach that out of Chump's arse?

I learned it from sources familiar with the situation.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They don’t need a hospital ship.

Denmark provides them with one of the best healthcare systems on the planet

How long are their wait times to see a specialist?

 

[SaxonJackson]

Bizarre.

Greenland says 'no thank you' to Trump hospital boat

Greenland rejected President Donald Trump's bid to send a hospital boat, as tension between the Danish territory and the United States reignited.

www.usatoday.com

WASHINGTON – Greenland rejected a seemingly impromptu plan by Donald Trump to send a hospital boat to the island he's trying to acquire, saying in a searing statement that the U.S. president should respect the territory's sovereignty and stop needling it on social media.

“It’s a no thank you from here," Prime Minister Jens Frederik Nielsen said. "President Trump’s idea of sending an American hospital ship here to Greenland has been noted."

The statement followed Trump's announcement in a Feb. 21 social media post that he planned to send a hospital vessel to Greenland to care for sick residents of the Arctic island, whom he said weren't receiving treatment.

"Working with the fantastic Governor of Louisiana, Jeff Landry, we are going to send a great hospital boat to Greenland to take care of the many people who are sick and not being taken care of there. It’s on the way!!!" Trump said, referring to his special envoy to the island.

Nowhere in the story does Denmark say they are sending their own hospital shop or building a hospital in Greenland to provide desperatately needed healthcare. It is long past time for the last vestiges of European colonialism to be eradicated from the Americas.

The United States has a long-standing agreement allowing fulsome access to Greenland, and of course is free to operate ships in the international waters near Greenland. If the Danish rulers prevent Greenlanders from getting treatment in the American hospital ship, they will have to do it by confining the native people to the island, because it has no authority and certainly no power to preven the U.S. from offering it.

Hell ... I'm American and I avoid America's "health practitioners" as much as possible. They're the ones who pushed the dangerous Covid vaccine and who prescribe dangerous pharmaceuticals and psychotherapeutic drugs on a daily basis.

Want to be healthy? Eat and drink non-GMO, unprocessed, natural foods and fluids; up your quantity of vitamin D (via sunshine or quality supplements; breath in plenty of fresh air; and eliminate or drastically reduce carbs from your diet.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don't necessarily support Greenland, I just wish Trump would try occasionally going into a situation without reminding these little countries that they are like an ant and we could crush them.

Trump might be a great businessman but he could learn a thing or two about diplomacy.

I get what you're saying. The U.S. has always tried to treat our protectorates as equals, but a problem has developed with that.

We've pretended that we don't remember when Germany went ferral and that the essential character of its people that led to that has not changed much. We've pretended that France was a vital ally in the war to defeat the temporarily (we pretend) feral Germans.

We've pretended that nations who are in dire poverty are just having a run of bad luck and that if only we help them through the bad times, their people can pull themselves up and develop a nation equal to our own. We've pretended that for more than five decades in some cases.

The idea was to pretend they were equals and hope that they would be inspired to work hard to become equals. For some countries that worked very well. Some Asian nations have adopted U.S. style capitalism with a vengeance - and inevitibly thrived. Europe has done relatively well, hindered only by its propensity to cling to the exact European socialism that brought about its near destruction eighty years ago.

But many have not done so well. Look at most Latin-American nations and African nations. Yet, we have continued to treat them as diplomatic equals. So much so that they have started to believe that they are equals, not having taken the steps and made the effort to thrive as we have. This has led them to hate the people who help them - not an uncommon human failing - and even to feel free to comment on our choices of leadership under our democratic system of selection.

Now we are like parents who allowed their teenagers too much freedom and too much money to enjoy their freedom and did not instill the value of work and delayed gratification. Now they are college age or older, still living off mommy and daddy and student loan and hating their parents for not voting in another Democrat promising to make even student loan free.