This is the reason why some Republicans despise Matt Gaetz.

[Rawley]

They didn't pursue the charges in the end. Yes, that is correct. The DOJ investigation was initiated by Bill Barr, during the Trump administration NOT the Biden administration for partisan reasons as you so easily claim, and continued in to the Biden admin, and it was the Biden admin DOJ, under Garland rule, who chose not to charge him....

I didn't say he was investigated for partisan reasons, I said Biden's hyper partisan DOJ investigated and cleared him

They never announced he was cleared of charges, they simply did not bring charges and announced it, ( because she was close to 18 by the time he brought her on the trip out of state and prosecutors felt there was a chance of jury nullification happening being so close to her being of age)

They didn't charge him - same thing as clearing him,

And the Republican House Committee brought on a probe in to Gaetz under Trump admin, then paused it while Doj was investigating, then the republican house ethics committee reopened it after the DOJ ended their investigation....

Ethic committee is 50/50.

He's not qualified to be AG, regardless of his sexcapades with young women, and drugs, and Rock and roll.

ANd Harris was unqualified to be both VP and President. But there you have it.

He has no experience in life or career, other than being a congress critter....this is the biggest, most important admin job in the nation

OK - like many of your fellow travelers you seem to believe you have to be part of the swamp to have the requisite experience to lead in the swamp.. and Obama was a Senator for 3 three years, but you seem to think he had requisite experience for the most important job on the planet

 

[OldFlame]

Maybe Senator Gaetz did not want his son charged in Florida, the Sunshine State? And, besides, if she was a minor, we never heard the girl's parents complain, right?

Funny how you believe every corrupt allegation from unnamed sources, or even make up your own when it comes to R politicians, but deny to death any corruption that takes place on the D side.

Your responses indicate that you are ignorant of most of the facts surrounding the entire thing, not surprising at all.

 

[justoffal]

Where to begin. The thing is, my entire view of politics and DC is very different than yours and most others here. I no longer buy the D vs R false dichotomy. They're controlled by the same subversive powers, and on the important issues there's little to no difference.

As for the Gaetz "investigation", I heard from someone who's from Florida and is very knowledgable on the whole thing that the reason the investigation didn't get anywhere is because there are a lot of other politicians that are implicated by the activities that occurred as part of this Matt Gaetz story, and it implicates not just Republican politicians but a few Dems as well. So neither party has a big incentive to expose the truth, because it would be damning for both of them. And that investigation goes beyond the underage girls thing. It also involves drugs, alcohol, trafficking and a bunch of other stuff.*

So that goes along with what I have been saying about government "investigations"... they are not trustworthy, even when it's supposedly one "side" going after the other. I'm sorry to be blunt but anyone who thinks any government investigations are trustworthy is very naive. When they're all corrupt and many of them are friends behind the scenes, they don't expose corruption or crimes on one "side" because it would expose their own side as well.

*to be clear, and that's not even the allegations I was alluding to yesterday, there are far more serious allegations against him that are completely apart from the ones we are currently talking about.

Now THAT sounds about right.

 

[White 6]

Maybe we will see an increase in stock act violation prosecutions.

Sounds good, to me. You say Matt has vast experience investigating and prosecuting insider trading by elected government officials? I certainly was not aware,

 

[Rawley]

You mean it wasn't the sex with a minor, and paying young women for sex in Florida, making some think him unqualified to be Attorney General of the United States?

No, you calling us supporters of pedophilia. If I understand the rules here correctly, if you weren't a moderator, that's grounds for being booted.

Your lying and gross ignorance doesn't bother us.

 

[justoffal]

I didn't say he was investigated for partisan reasons, I said Biden's hyper partisan DOJ investigated and cleared him

They didn't charge him - same thing as clearing him,

Ethic committee is 50/50.

ANd Harris was unqualified to be both VP and President. But there you have it.

OK - like many of your fellow travelers you seem to believe you have to be part of the swamp to have the requisite experience to lead in the swamp.. and Obama was a Senator for 3 three years, but you seem to think he had requisite experience for the most important job on the planet

Maybe it's time for an outsider

 

[Rambunctious]

I thought it was the pedo thing, but maybe you are correct and Republicans don't mind that sort of thing, and don't want to see the report.

Doesn't really matter to Gaetz. Resigning 2 days before report release, cuts chances of official release, especially with Johnson's help. If report breaks, and he doesn't get confirmed, he was re-elected and will be back next term, and I am sure Trump supporting members of the house will accept him.

If he does get Attorney General, I guess we can look for a steep drop in prosecutions on human trafficking, and maybe a national drop in age of consent, probably to 16, just to avoid future problems of this type for him.

We aren't doing Kavnaugh 2... some chick says 20 years ago... no its not happening again... the DOJ looked at the complaint and decided its bogus and full of holes so they dropped it...

 

[Rawley]

Maybe it's time for an outsider

In all of the agencies.

 

[OldFlame]

Sounds good, to me. You say Matt has vast experience investigating and prosecuting insider trading by elected government officials? I certainly was not aware,

Did you even watch the video in the op?

 

[Foxfyre]

"Mother of all human weaknesses"? Yes, I have heard a hard d!@k has no conscience, so why should anybody raise an eyebrow. If you say the Ethic Committee of the Republican US House of Representative just had to know what they other person was doing, I can accept that.

The House Ethics committee felt they had to do the investigation on allegations re Gaetz in order to be consistent as they would investigate a Democrat accused of such things. The fact that they did the investigation should in no way be interpreted that they found him guilty of anything illegal unless there is a report. They have a long standing policy of not releasing ethics investigations of House members after those members have left the House.

Now however suspicious it looks for Gaeta to resign from the House two days before the report was to come out looks bad. I realize that. But I also realize that while he may have done that to protect himself from embarrassment, he also very well could have done that to protect others named in the report from embarrassment. We have no way of knowing. And to pretend that we do know is just wrong.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Cause he just got nominated and the dembots hate it

These are republicans, fool. Democrats don't control the damn House.

 

[justoffal]

Sounds good, to me. You say Matt has vast experience investigating and prosecuting insider trading by elected government officials? I certainly was not aware,

No ... But the ones with the experience don't seem to want to chase it! Go figure. Bill Barr certainly had the experience.... He never went anywhere near any of that stuff. I say get them all! Republican, Democrat.... Whatever it may be. Get them all!

 

[OldFlame]

These are republicans, fool. Democrats don't control the damn House.

Another one that ignored the video in the op.

 

[justoffal]

Another one that ignored the video in the op.

It's a good video

 

[struth]

These are republicans, fool. Democrats don't control the damn House.

Republicans aren’t push anything. The speaker just said there was no need for any report and the committee made a statement months ago saying no further action was needed

 

[White 6]

No, you calling us supporters of pedophilia. If I understand the rules here correctly, if you weren't a moderator, that's grounds for being booted.

Your lying and gross ignorance doesn't bother us.

No, no, no. Excaliber cleared that up last night. The girl in question that testified before the committee was 17, not prepubescent at the time. She was only a minor child, and I thanked him for clearing that up. Oh, and the two sex workers, paid using Venmo, testifying were 18 at the time. I admit, he could have paid cash, instead of plastic, but hey, he's a lawyer.

 

[justoffal]

Republicans aren’t push anything. The speaker just said there was no need for any report and the committee made a statement months ago saying no further action was needed

Boy.... Theres probably a dozen people involved
And maybe some big boys from both parties.
If that's the case it'll never see the light of day.

 

[OldFlame]

No, no, no. Excaliber cleared that up last night. The girl in question that testified before the committee was 17, not prepubescent at the time. She was only a minor child, and I thanked him for clearing that up. Oh, and the two sex workers, paid using Venmo, testifying were 18 at the time. I admit, he could have paid cash, instead of plastic, but hey, he's a lawyer.

Site your sources for what you just posted.

 

[justoffal]

No, no, no. Excaliber cleared that up last night. The girl in question that testified before the committee was 17, not prepubescent at the time. She was only a minor child, and I thanked him for clearing that up. Oh, and the two sex workers, paid using Venmo, testifying were 18 at the time. I admit, he could have paid cash, instead of plastic, but hey, he's a lawyer.

So is prostitution legal in Fla?

 

[White 6]

The House Ethics committee felt they had to do the investigation on allegations re Gaetz in order to be consistent as they would investigate a Democrat accused of such things. The fact that they did the investigation should in no way be interpreted that they found him guilty of anything illegal unless there is a report. They have a long standing policy of not releasing ethics investigations of House members after those members have left the House.

Now however suspicious it looks for Gaeta to resign from the House two days before the report was to come out looks bad. I realize that. But I also realize that while he may have done that to protect himself from embarrassment, he also very well could have done that to protect others named in the report from embarrassment. We have no way of knowing. And to pretend that we do know is just wrong.

I have not heard him demand the report be released, to clear his good name? Sounds like he doesn't care.