This is the reason why some Republicans despise Matt Gaetz.

[struth]

Something you need to try for a change.

I am honest, do you agree with that poster?

 

[struth]

The House Ethics Committee first began its investigation into allegations of misconduct against Gaetz in April 2021, but deferred its consideration in response to a request from the Justice Department. It resumed its investigation in May 2023 after federal investigators declined to charge Gaetz following their sex-trafficking and obstruction probe.

You keep telling the lie that they ended their investigation when I have shown your dumbass that they RESUMED it after the FBI didn't charge the pervert.

Yep and June they issued a statement saying there would be no further action.

 

[OldFlame]

I just watched the lawyer, saying what his clients testified to, on an ABC YouTube clip. If you don't like the printed word, I am pretty sure, I can find the video. Personally, I like the printed word.

Yet they weren't deemed credible by the Biden DOJ, and the attorney can say whatever they want to ABC news, they weren't there themselves and have no idea if their client is being truthful or not.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Yep and June they issued a statement saying there would be no further action.

Post the statement.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I thought it was the pedo thing, but maybe you are correct and Republicans don't mind that sort of thing, and don't want to see the report.

Doesn't really matter to Gaetz. Resigning 2 days before report release, cuts chances of official release, especially with Johnson's help. If report breaks, and he doesn't get confirmed, he was re-elected and will be back next term, and I am sure Trump supporting members of the house will accept him.

If he does get Attorney General, I guess we can look for a steep drop in prosecutions on human trafficking, and maybe a national drop in age of consent, probably to 16, just to avoid future problems of this type for him.

Is there a "pedo thing?"

What is your evidence for that?

 

[White 6]

Yet they weren't deemed credible by the Biden DOJ, and the attorney can say whatever they want to ABC news, they weren't there themselves and have no idea if their client is being truthful or not.

Right. Attack the witness, attack the victim and to hell with electronic payment program records. That's cool. DOJ simply did not have a Federal Crime to prosecute. At one time, they were looking at the question of did he take young girls out of state and have sex with them, as this was rumored, but no evidence, no Mann Act, no Federal Crime for the Department of Justice to prosecute. They could say anything, but the biggest thing they were really saying was no Federal Crime, simply because no Federal Law.

You will really need to take it up with the Republicans that investigated. Or maybe you can attack the witnesses, calling it a he said, they all said, and with digital receipts kind of thing. I certainly cannot say more than what the lawyer said, for you to believe or not.

 

[White 6]

Is there a "pedo thing?"

What is your evidence for that?

You are a night late and a dollar short. Just turn on your tv to anywhere but FOX NEWS, state TV.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are a night late and a dollar short. Just turn on your tv to anywhere but FOX NEWS, state TV.

I wonder why the DOJ didn't watch anywhere but FOX NEWS, state TV. If that's where the evidence is, they could have gotten an indictment.

 

[White 6]

I wonder why the DOJ didn't watch anywhere but FOX NEWS, state TV. If that's where the evidence is, they could have gotten an indictment.

What would the Federal Crime be? Is there some Fed Law, I haven't heard of? Maybe, but not one I can't look up. Were you thinking, simply because no Federal criminal code broken, that all was good and the subject of the investigation, all above board.

Go tell it to the House Judiciary Committee.

 

[Foxfyre]

Privacy is kind of shot with the lawyer for the two sex workers, appearing on ABC. But who knows. It is a Republican written report, so it could very easily clear him of any Ethical fault. This is 2024. Moral and ethical standards aren't what they used to be. Besides. It could all be academic, after January, as a Senate Recess can be ordered, and the whole thing of asking questions and qualifications done away with, as has been suggested. Or are you thinking Thune could have some clinging notion of Congress as a co-equal branch, not under control of the White House?

All I am saying is that Democrats seem to be obsessed with this sex stuff and it's a rare Republican that isn't accused of sexual misconduct if he is any kind of threat to them on anything. And I think it is immoral and very bad form to accuse somebody when that person has not been charged/indicted for any crime. I think trying to destroy somebody who very well may be innocent that way is a huge sin. But that's just me.

I have no problem with those who oppose Gaetz on grounds that he is not qualified to be A.G. I have to agree that on face value he indeed is not qualified given the extreme power that is embodied in that position. It doesn't help that I'm not fond of him personally so I allow for that possibly having a bearing on how I'm seeing the situation.

I am also willing to listen to the debates and arguments, pro and con, as to whether attitude, agenda, courage and vision can override experience. I honestly don't think he will be confirmed but I'm prepared to be wrong about that.

But I think trying to cancel him on the sex stuff is wrong and hateful. I can't respect that.

 

[OldFlame]

You are a night late and a dollar short. Just turn on your tv to anywhere but FOX NEWS, state TV.

This fool believes that all that is needed to find someone guilty is for there to be accusations and the 'media' to report them far and wide, day and night. He's truly the perfect example of a brain washed loser that believes everything his TEEVEE tells him, because they would never lie to him, and they know everything. I mean, why even have trials, let's just let the 'media' decide everyone's guilt and innocence and throw out the judicial system.

 

[OldFlame]

I wonder why the DOJ didn't watch anywhere but FOX NEWS, state TV. If that's where the evidence is, they could have gotten an indictment.

His level of stupidity is truly mind boggling, or he's 90+ years old and still believes his nightly news is the arbiter of truth and justice in America. If the evidence of the past 8+ years of lies spread by the 'media' isn't enough for him to reevaluate that notion that the 'media' is always truthful is wrong, then he is beyond any help.

 

[OldFlame]

What would the Federal Crime be? Is there some Fed Law, I haven't heard of? Maybe, but not one I can't look up. Were you thinking, simply because no Federal criminal code broken, that all was good and the subject of the investigation, all above board.

Go tell it to the House Judiciary Committee.

Trafficking minors isn't against federal law? Why were they investigating him to begin with then, for what crime?

The house judiciary committee that he's talking about in the video in the op that started this thread, that judiciary committee? Good God, you are beyond stupid, it knows no depths.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What would the Federal Crime be? Is there some Fed Law, I haven't heard of? Maybe, but not one I can't look up. Were you thinking, simply because no Federal criminal code broken, that all was good and the subject of the investigation, all above board.

Under our beloved and revered doctrine of innocent until proven guilty, yes of course that’s what I was thinking.

Weren’t you?

Go tell it to the House Judiciary Committee.

They have reported nothing about any supposed illegal activity by Matt Gates.

Since you’re kind of stuck on lack of federal crimes as the excuse for the justice department, has any state or local prosecutors gone after Matt Gates for this unknown illegal activity? When the justice department finds crimes that arr state crime, not federal crimes, they hand that evidence over to state and local prosecutors.

Apparently, there was no evidence. Certainly no democrat on this board present any.

By the way, Donald Trump was “convicted“ of crimes in a state. That doesn’t mean the justice department wasn’t heavily involved. They were, as well as the White House as we now know.

The time of lawfare is now over. You guys need a new act.

 

[White 6]

You have no fucking clue if there actually were any payments, let alone what they were for, you're jumping to conclusions based on the corrupt 'media's' article using unnamed witnesses and sources. They've only done this a million times before, each time they were WRONG, and did it just to smear a conservative politician that was getting too loud, yet here your dumb ass is again willing to believe anything they tell you.

No federal law? I'll give you credit, you display your stupidity for all to see on a regular basis and are apparently proud of it.

I honestly hope you get accused of something by a female and everyone believes her and your name in your local community is stomped into the ground, because everyone knows that women never lie, especially when there's money involved. I'd love to see you get a taste of your own medicine, it would be poetic justice. Speaking of which, that's what we're seeing today after the 8+ years of lies and bullshit in constantly trying to ruin Trump. Fuck you and your constant lies.

Calm yourself. Just reporting what was reported. I am quite willing to let the Senate hash it out.
What Federal statute would you have him charged on? I could see a variety of possible state charges, but it is Florida, he is a US Rep from Florida, son of a Florida Senator, so I do not see it happening.

 

[White 6]

This fool believes that all that is needed to find someone guilty is for there to be accusations and the 'media' to report them far and wide, day and night. He's truly the perfect example of a brain washed loser that believes everything his TEEVEE tells him, because they would never lie to him, and they know everything. I mean, why even have trials, let's just let the 'media' decide everyone's guilt and innocence and throw out the judicial system.

You want him tried? What charges do you have in mind? I thought you didn't even want the Senate to ask, much less get their hands on the Republican House report.

 

[White 6]

Trafficking minors isn't against federal law? Why were they investigating him to begin with then, for what crime?

The house judiciary committee that he's talking about in the video in the op that started this thread, that judiciary committee? Good God, you are beyond stupid, it knows no depths.

Uh, didn't have enough evidence to charge and convict on human trafficking, maybe. Criminal charges are not about what you think, but about what you can prove. Do you believe all men that have paid for sex should be charged federally for human trafficking?

 

[OldFlame]

Calm yourself. Just reporting what was reported. I am quite willing to let the Senate hash it out.
What Federal statute would you have him charged on? I could see a variety of possible state charges, but it is Florida, he is a US Rep from Florida, son of a Florida Senator, so I do not see it happening.

I am completely calm, even happy. It's a reflection of your own ego that you think anything you say or do could alter my state of equilibrium. That's a trait most narcists have though, so understandable that that's what you would think.

And it was apparently sufficient for you to label conservatives as pedo supporters, I guess you think that accusation should be take lightly?

So what crime was he being investigated for?

 

[OldFlame]

You want him tried? What charges do you have in mind? I thought you didn't even want the Senate to ask, much less get their hands on the Republican House report.

You've already 'tried' him and found him guilty, so why don't you let us know what charges you have in mind. And if they reveal the report from the House investigation that's been going on for several years, I hope they also reveal that those members of the House Ethics committee are being investigated for insider trading. I mean, that's why they're after Gaetz to begin with, or have you still not watched the vid in the op?

 

[OldFlame]

Uh, didn't have enough evidence to charge and convict on human trafficking, maybe. Criminal charges are not about what you think, but about what you can prove. Do you believe all men that have paid for sex should be charged federally for human trafficking?

Not enough evidence, they have sworn testimony from the women involved and the venmo transactions, you yourself have already determined his guilt based on the 'media' reports. What does the DOJ know compared to you watching your TEEVEE??